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Hawks and Lions to kick off Bumper Sunday 😂 (according to the AFL site).
Actually think this might be a decent game - Hawks playing some alright football, Brisbane aren't the same team away from home.

Melbourne and St.Kilda - meh. Saints are toast.

Camries vs. Hungries might be a good contest too. Expect the chest beaters to get up on their home turf though.
 
Camries vs. Hungries might be a good contest too. Expect the chest beaters to get up on their home turf though.

The Ye I Ye I Yeo Cup? I'd like to see him play a blinder, but if he's not really keen on Adelaide after what a prominent influencer recently said about the place, he'll probably just phone it in.
 
Excellent article in today's Age about how North throwing around mega offers to attract players from other clubs hasn't resulted in them improving their list but simply made the stars of other clubs mega rich.
North Melbournes big problem is they delist or trade players from their top 15 rather than their bottom 4.

Go back through their highest disposal getters and best and fairest placements and most of them disappear a year later. Polec, Pittard, Dumont, Jed Anderson, Aaron Hall, Hugh Greenwood, etc.

McKay, Goldstein and others to free agency. and they are happy for them to go.

The AFL just needs to shut them down
 

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North Melbournes big problem is they delist or trade players from their top 15 rather than their bottom 4.

Go back through their highest disposal getters and best and fairest placements and most of them disappear a year later. Polec, Pittard, Dumont, Jed Anderson, Aaron Hall, Hugh Greenwood, etc.

McKay, Goldstein and others to free agency. and they are happy for them to go.

The AFL just needs to shut them down

They've been on an active tanking campaign for at least 5 years.

Banking on the AFL to bail them out with priority picks and cash money might be misplaced given the timing of Tasmania coming in.

They've been horrible for a long time.
 
I didn't even realise McHenry had been dropped. Scored 0.1 against Sturt.

West Coast could be up and about today, no Rankine for crows and Yeo is back, would want to show the crows he is worth $1M.
 
Looks like Gawn might be gone from today's game...

So Gawn is……..Gawn?

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Excellent article in today's Age about how North throwing around mega offers to attract players from other clubs hasn't resulted in them improving their list but simply made the stars of other clubs mega rich.

“I played with Josh Kelly who got some of the most ridiculous offers from North ... his dad played for North, and he was still able to say no.”
Former GWS captain Phil Davis, on SEN’s Whateley on Thursday.

In 2017, North Melbourne simultaneously made staggering long-term offers to Dustin Martin and Josh Kelly that would have made either the game’s best paid footballer at the time.

The immediate impact of those offers was that they enabled Martin to be close to first on the rich list for AFL players even at Richmond and for Kelly to secure a 10-year commitment from the Giants worth around $1 million a season in 2019.
That the Kangaroos could pay both players an aggregate approaching $3 million per season – without ruining their salary cap – is a measure of the “war chest” that they possessed at Arden St.

Today, as Dusty reaches the end of the seven-year deal he extracted after delivering incredible value to Richmond, North Melbourne’s war chest remains as intact as Trent Cotchin’s hair. The space they had then was spent, in parts, on journeymen – Jared Polec one fortunate beneficiary – or it simply went unspent and disappeared.


Consider the contract that Harley Reid would have commanded had North not beaten the Suns in the final round last season, or that Zak Butters would be given if he were willing to leave Port Adelaide in 2026 as a free agent and chose North. Reid can virtually name his price at West Coast.



North's failure as a club on and off field over many years now and offering mega $$$ to attract top line players in an effort to fix the mess is impacting adversely on all other clubs including Port. It is upsetting the balance of payer payments across the league at a time when top tier talent is being spread even more thinly across an increasing number of clubs.

When Tasmania enters the comp and siphons off top tier draft picks for several years as part of their concessions, North (and to a lesser extent St Kilda) will have to become even more desperate to appease their fan base. But that of course will not result in those players being attracted to or staying at North but to demand more from their existing and more professionally managed clubs

A pathetic echo of their club history in the failed cash splash of recent years. At the start of the 1970s they splashed cash around to buy star players and star coach Barassi, netting 5 grand finals and 2 flags to 1978, but also launched a mad VFL-wide spiral towards near insolvency**

Times have changed, sources of cash have certainly changed, that club hasn't.

Yes they're mostly irrelevant, but they're not broke so IMO we're stuck with them unless the AFL distribution tap gets "tightened", or their cost base "inflated" via some revised Marvel deal. Which clubs does their behaviour really hurt? If it's legacy VFL clubs, expect vultures to poke once Tassie enters, but is the AFL vicious enough to deliberately kill a club that isn't broke? Just not wanting to manage another bye isn't enough to trigger that IMO. Maybe the AFL are deluded enough to imagine a 20th team in the decade post Tassie, who knows? Who else cares? In theory AFLPA should care if they thought star salaries were being inflated at the expense of the majority of members, but their appointed reps tend towards a conflict of interest on that point.

** and look where that eventually got us ;)
 

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A pathetic echo of their club history in the failed cash splash of recent years. At the start of the 1970s they splashed cash around to buy star players and star coach Barassi, netting 5 grand finals and 2 flags to 1978, but also launched a mad VFL-wide spiral towards near insolvency**

Times have changed, sources of cash have certainly changed, that club hasn't.

Yes they're mostly irrelevant, but they're not broke so IMO we're stuck with them unless the AFL distribution tap gets "tightened", or their cost base "inflated" via some revised Marvel deal. Which clubs does their behaviour really hurt? If it's legacy VFL clubs, expect vultures to poke once Tassie enters, but is the AFL vicious enough to deliberately kill a club that isn't broke? Just not wanting to manage another bye isn't enough to trigger that IMO. Maybe the AFL are deluded enough to imagine a 20th team in the decade post Tassie, who knows? Who else cares? In theory AFLPA should care if they thought star salaries were being inflated at the expense of the majority of members, but their appointed reps tend towards a conflict of interest on that point.

** and look
Gil did say 18 is an even number, mid way between his 18 month fairwell tour.
 
I didn't even realise McHenry had been dropped. Scored 0.1 against Sturt.

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His metres gained in his last AFL game was negative, not surprised they dropped him. Even the Camry Crows have only so much patience with a once in a generation talent like McNeddy.
 
His metres gained in his last AFL game was negative, not surprised they dropped him. Even the Camry Crows have only so much patience with a once in a generation talent like McNeddy.
He's their best talent since Sam Siggins :).
 
A pathetic echo of their club history in the failed cash splash of recent years. At the start of the 1970s they splashed cash around to buy star players and star coach Barassi, netting 5 grand finals and 2 flags to 1978, but also launched a mad VFL-wide spiral towards near insolvency**

Times have changed, sources of cash have certainly changed, that club hasn't.

Yes they're mostly irrelevant, but they're not broke so IMO we're stuck with them unless the AFL distribution tap gets "tightened", or their cost base "inflated" via some revised Marvel deal. Which clubs does their behaviour really hurt? If it's legacy VFL clubs, expect vultures to poke once Tassie enters, but is the AFL vicious enough to deliberately kill a club that isn't broke? Just not wanting to manage another bye isn't enough to trigger that IMO. Maybe the AFL are deluded enough to imagine a 20th team in the decade post Tassie, who knows? Who else cares? In theory AFLPA should care if they thought star salaries were being inflated at the expense of the majority of members, but their appointed reps tend towards a conflict of interest on that point.

** and look where that eventually got us ;)
Good post.

I sure most of us couldn't care less about North or any other club, but Port. And the article I quoted is from the Melbourne Age and their not anti-North either. It's about the impact on the AFL in general.

The concern for us is for what it means for Port's position. We've spent a long time in the top half of the comp due to clever list management and drafting for zero return in the trophy cupboard.

But with Tasmania about to fence off the top end of the draft market for a few years and North and Saints cashed up to up-end the economics of the second-hand player market, how are placed to re-vitalise our list in the face of teams like West Coast that have bottomed out at the right time and have a young talented list that will only get better across the field?
 
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