Possible Draft Players for Collingwood

[neversaynever]

if brown goes to pies, the whole draft will be in chaos
like with judd this year

 

[sirlothie]

Oh OK, I thought the draft positions must have been decided already

Another posts that proves you have absolutely no idea...

 

[shawthing09]

i dont know players name as i havent piad any attention to the under 18s this year.

But i want us to pick the ebst availaible player be it midfielder or wahetevr with our first pick, there after you can make positional choices but first pick should always be the very best player available at that point

That's the theory but I am not 100% it should be applied this year. With where our pick is likely to be the chance of the "best avaliable" being clear cut is slim.

Also if the best avalible was a freakish flanker, i would say it would be best to bypass that if there was a slight difference between him and a promising in and under type mid or kpp.

 

[daics cousin]

I reckon lets say we finnish between 5th and 8th this year the best kids in the land may be taken till we get to pick,and since our premiership window opens from say 2009-2012, i would suggest we go hard for 2 players that could take us to a premiership very quickly.
The key we need to improve dramatically is our midfield.Really as far as trading for say a number 2-4 pick the Pies haven't got much to trade,unless we want to give away one of our young guns which is a no, no,because then its like robbing Peter to pay for Paul.
So keeping that in mind,we should strongly target Ben Cousins,and Brent Prismall from Geelong.Both these players will have a strong impact in our midfield,and won't cost us much.Lets trade our draft picks for these 2.
Cousins could play for another 2-3 good years and Prismall is only 20.he has at least 10 years in him.
Imagine this midfield rotation
Cousins,Prismall,Thomas,Pendlebury,Wellinghmam,Didak,Davis,Brad Dick,McCarthy,Barham,Stanley,Obree,Shaw,Johnson and maybe use Burns sparingly if he is still has one more season.Holland and lonie are question marks.
Now if this lot can deliver the ball to the following forward line rotation.
Travis Cloke,medhurst,Reid,Rusling,(either didak or davis to rotate from the midfield) and we have say Rocca for one more year as a peripheral forward,with Chris Dawes as the new debutant,so we ease him in,i believe we have the makings of a strong premiership side,providing our forward can stay injury free.
Forget getting Brown from Brisbane would be good but he'll cost the earth ,really after 2 years Brown won't be the same player he is today.
We have already got the makings of a great forward structure without him.

 

[shawthing09]

The core of your post is pretty good daic's

thing is Prismal is very outside who uses it well and can win it himself at times if needs be. He would be handy if we had the raw ball winners but that should be our number one intention this off season ball winners. Hypothetically if it was a trade of say Egan for Prismal ( which won't happen.) you'd take it but that won't happen. Prismal won't be as outstanding in a side where he has to win more of his own ball and gets more attention. It is easy to look good when your a smart footballer who uses it well being feed by the likes of selwood, Bartell Corey and Ablett. It's a lot harder when you have to actually get it yourself.

Thinking about it more, the only way I'd go for both Prismal and Cousins is if we could get cuz through the psd, if not i'd bypass prismall. If we could get them both without giving up two decent draft picks we give ourselve a shot with a fit foward line.

The problem is the chances of a fit foward line don't look to good and if you trade away your draft picks for such a long shot you can end up in a terrible position, see Fremantle for an example. Prismal is handy but not to our need.

 

[daics cousin]

The core of your post is pretty good daic's

thing is Prismal is very outside who uses it well and can win it himself at times if needs be. He would be handy if we had the raw ball winners but that should be our number one intention this off season ball winners. Hypothetically if it was a trade of say Egan for Prismal ( which won't happen.) you'd take it but that won't happen. Prismal won't be as outstanding in a side where he has to win more of his own ball and gets more attention. It is easy to look good when your a smart footballer who uses it well being feed by the likes of selwood, Bartell Corey and Ablett. It's a lot harder when you have to actually get it yourself.

Good post shawry,your right,but Prismall is young and has played seniors,he has proved he is way to good for the VFL,has averged around
30-40 possesions a game.But because of the elite players in geelongs midfield he is very frustrated and what areular spot in a side,and i believe he will move if offered a regular senior spot in a side.Would be good if we could off load Egan for prismall but yeah won't happen,
The cats would want at least a second round pick for him.
I am just wondering,gee we past up Johnson last year ,and look what he did with Geelong.

 

[Chase the Ace]

Your posts and sarcasm are mind numbing in equal proportions!

Put me on ignore

 

[Chase the Ace]

Another posts that proves you have absolutely no idea...

What day is it?

 

[Sloth]

I think the name Sidebottom is funny enough for us to draft him.

I'm sure there's an operation to fix that.

 

[BEEG]

Its going to be so hard this year to do trades for picks because not many clubs will want to give them up

 

[Skade]

What day is it?

You crack me up

Must be all the tannin in your blood.

 

[medhurstugun#7]

What about Ziebell

What pick do u think he will go for?

Supremely talented great kick and level head

Would he be in top 10 ?

We should go after him in IMO

 

[brspdt201013]

I think Collingwood should trade their first round pick this year. Sure people might think it is a bit of a gamble but we need a midfielder that can slot straight into our starting midfield instead of having to be developed through the system. Its a bit like Wood from last year. (Although he is a ruckman). Collingwood traded their 14th pick for Wood which was a good option. This was so they didn't have to draft a 18 year old ruckman and wait 3 - 4 years for him to develop.

So what Collingwood should do is trade their 1st round pick. I think we will finish anywhere from 6th to about 10th - depending on form, injuries, etc. This will mean we will get pick 7 - 11 in the draft. The players I would look at getting for this pick are.

Shaun Higgins (Bulldogs)
Brent Reilly (Adelaide)
Jess Smith (Kangaroos)
Andrew Walker (Carlton)


The below players we might have to throw in our 2nd round aswell.


Daniel Kerr (West Coast)
Nick Dal Santo (St Kilda)
Shaun Burgoyne (Port Adel)

 

[didaka]

lol Sidebottom.

I'm on the official Sidebottom to Collingwood campaign.

 

[shawthing09]

I think Collingwood should trade their first round pick this year. Sure people might think it is a bit of a gamble but we need a midfielder that can slot straight into our starting midfield instead of having to be developed through the system. Its a bit like Wood from last year. (Although he is a ruckman). Collingwood traded their 14th pick for Wood which was a good option. This was so they didn't have to draft a 18 year old ruckman and wait 3 - 4 years for him to develop.

So what Collingwood should do is trade their 1st round pick. I think we will finish anywhere from 6th to about 10th - depending on form, injuries, etc. This will mean we will get pick 7 - 11 in the draft. The players I would look at getting for this pick are.

Shaun Higgins (Bulldogs)
Brent Reilly (Adelaide)
Jess Smith (Kangaroos)
Andrew Walker (Carlton)


The below players we might have to throw in our 2nd round aswell.


Daniel Kerr (West Coast)
Nick Dal Santo (St Kilda)
Shaun Burgoyne (Port Adel)

I am not sure where you picked your players from but. Smith is injured at the roo's not missing out on selection I highly doubt he will be traded, is not worth a first rounder on history anyway very injury prone.

Higgins much like Smith, They won't trade him when fit he is deff in their best 22

Riely won't be traded unless he wants to come home if we should go after him

Walker is a spud.

Dal Santo- cost to need value is to high, he is not the sort of player we need but will be highly hard to obtain.

Burgoyne won't be traded.

Kerr- Possibility but again will be hard to get. Then again his exactly the type of player we need. Don't think he will leave WCE anyway

 

[Chase the Ace]

You crack me up

Must be all the tannin in your blood.

Oh yeah, it makes my head spin

 

[Keele]

Hawks have a raft of inside mids with good skills, as do Geelong. One is far from enough.

Ok then its Roughead to Sidebottom... Commetti will have a ball

 

[Kirby]

Ok then its Roughead to Sidebottom... Commetti will have a ball

Pity there is not a player called Shitfoot because I'm sure we would be all over him!

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Very early still, and I haven't seen many of these guys, but you just know that Hine is going to be looking predominately at bottom-aged Victorian kids.

With that in mind, I'd say Sidebottom and Ziebell are two we'd be looking very closely at. Ziebell trained with us as part of the AIS program in the off-season. Nick Heyne is another with the elite skills we need, but probably more outside than the former two. Others that interest me include Hannebery, Sloane and on the smaller side Banner and Hooper.

These are all mids, I would like to see us pick up another tall key back with an early pick.

Chip, Snoop and Vinnie are all far more knowledgeable than I on these kids though.

P.S. Gaertner can't kick, and Hine could have picked him up for pick 1082 in the National Draft last year if he wanted. He passed and so did everyone else. Not sure we should have done the same with Zaharakis though.

 

[popathon]

I don't mind Tom Swift. He's a nice user of the ball and looked like he was easily going top 10 until he did his knee.
only downside i can see is his knee and he's from WA.

 

[hellfire]

I seen this on other Team boards, Early talk about Players who you like and could be drafted by collingwood.

I have heard 3 would be good.


2:Steve Gaertner:
Just sounds like a Player that Hine would pick. Athletic Freak and He is 196-198 CM so he can Play KPP and even Ruck.

No thanks. We've got enough of these types on the way (scholarships, Casey-Leigh, Thoolen etc.)

Number 1 sounds good to me.

 

[shawthing09]

P.S. Gaertner can't kick, and Hine could have picked him up for pick 1082 in the National Draft last year if he wanted. He passed and so did everyone else. Not sure we should have done the same with Zaharakis though.

The most frustraighting thing about this is that it was always clear that over the next couple of years we would lost a lot of older players in burns rocca o'bree wakelin and presti aswell as holland and lonie. The other thing is there are always going to be drafties that don't work out and will be axed. Yet we didn't minimise and spread the depature of older players by getting rid of holland and lonie who weren't best 22 anyway.

Instead we took barham who was a freebie with out last pick and passed on a lot of bottom age talent we could have taken as freebies aswell.

As a result we are going to have to fill a lot of list positions over the next couple of years.

I really hope we don't make the same mistake this year and actually use the fact that we get Reed for nicks well and take at least 3 standard draft picks plus Reed, aswell as promoting Sharrord and possibly Maccaffer that is 5-6 vacancies that need to be made this year. Wake's Lonie and Holland should make up 3 of them

 

[rand corp]

Steele Sidebottom, what's his nickname? Hip Replacement! Plumber's Smile!

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Does anyone think that Jackson Trengove's injury could see him slide to our 2nd round pick?

If so, I'd snap him up as a KP defender, and look at mids again in the 3rd round. He might be considered a Chris Dawes style bargain, although his injury isn't as severe. It just means that unlike Dawes, he'll miss the whole of the National Champs, keeping him a little under the radar.

1st - Steele Sidebottom
2nd - Jackson Trengove
3rd - Dan Hannebery
4th - Ben Cousins
5th - Scott Reed

 

[Optimax]

Does anyone think that Jackson Trengove's injury could see him slide to our 2nd round pick?

If so, I'd snap him up as a KP defender, and look at mids again in the 3rd round. He might be considered a Chris Dawes style bargain, although his injury isn't as severe. It just means that unlike Dawes, he'll miss the whole of the National Champs, keeping him a little under the radar.

1st - Steele Sidebottom
2nd - Jackson Trengove
3rd - Dan Hannebery
4th - Ben Cousins
5th - Scott Reed

so what type of player is hanneberry

i get
1st inside mid
2nd defender
3rd?????
4th brownlow medalist
5th nsw kid chb/mid