Opinion Preliminary Final Changes vs. Hawthorn

[UFO Tatsu]

Dawson temporarily dozes off all the time at least 5 times a game and when he does have the ball more often than not it goes straight to the opposition

Yeah ... nah try again

 

[Wizard]

Dawson is one of those players. You either hate him or love him (maybe love is a strong word, appreciate)

I'm with you, I like him.

I've said this a few times this week but the simple reality is that he is a far better player when Luke is in the team. He doesn't suit the 1 v 1 lock down role on the oppositions number one man, he needs support from guys like Luke and MJ and he thrives on the opportunity to assist his teammates in marking contests etc. He simply can't do that when he's matched on the oppositions number one target.

 

[apuchar]

Dawson temporarily dozes off all the time at least 5 times a game and when he does have the ball more often than not it goes straight to the opposition

He should kick more because he handballs us into trouble too much. We would be stuffed without him and Macca against most sides though. I thought he had a bad game against Sydney until I saw the replay and he was pretty good really. We wouldn't have been better without him.

 

[salim malik]

Dawson temporarily dozes off all the time at least 5 times a game and when he does have the ball more often than not it goes straight to the opposition

Please give us the facts and figures of the games and when this dozing of , turning the ball over directly to opponents occurred. Outlandish statements like yours need to be backed up with the stats. If you can't please stop making crap up.

 

[UFO Tatsu]

Please give us the facts and figures of the games and when this dozing of , turning the ball over directly to opponents occurred. Outlandish statements like yours need to be backed up with the stats. If you can't please stop making crap up.

He is barely going to make 5 possessions in game, let alone have 5 or more clangers.

 

[FreoRicci]

Dawson is one of those players. You either hate him or love him (maybe love is a strong word, appreciate)

I'm in the 'like him' camp. We wouldn't have much of a defence without him there. He helps Ibbo/MJ hugely without having to worry about his possession. His 1 percenters are massive, he does the off the ball stuff superbly, really does help his teammates around him. Who cares if he doesn't have the skill or over handballs. So does alot of the top defenders anyway, Alex Rance isn't great at rebounding either as well as Talia (you ever hear of him having the disposal skillset? He shuts down the top forwards anyway). I'd back Zac to play on Kennedy then I do McPharlin or MJ. He shuts him down a fair bit, and that job ain't easy.
Once we have McPharlin/Dawson/MJ/Ibbo back for the Prelim.. Will be the best defence we've had for quite a while.

 

[Freo]

I'm in the 'like him' camp. We wouldn't have much of a defence without him there. He helps Ibbo/MJ hugely without having to worry about his possession. His 1 percenters are massive, he does the off the ball stuff superbly, really does help his teammates around him. Who cares if he doesn't have the skill or over handballs. So does alot of the top defenders anyway, Alex Rance isn't great at rebounding either as well as Talia (you ever hear of him having the disposal skillset? He shuts down the top forwards anyway). I'd back Zac to play on Kennedy then I do McPharlin or MJ. He shuts him down a fair bit, and that job ain't easy.
Once we have McPharlin/Dawson/MJ/Ibbo back for the Prelim.. Will be the best defence we've had for quite a while.

Not sure about that one...

 

[Kenyan]

All of our defenders sit off their man.

As a general rule they are instructed to stay behind the forward but it depends where the ball is.

 

[Taylor]

If I hadn't seen the game and heard Reid was out injured midway I would have asked: "What did Dawson do??"

 

[FreoRicci]

Not sure about that one...

He didn't exactly excel on playing Petrie, Waite- he is required to do it both ways same as Chaplin.

 

[Freo]

He didn't exactly excel on playing Petrie, Waite- he is required to do it both ways same as Chaplin.

Rance is pretty slippery coming out of defence I would have thought. He is agile and pretty fast for a fairly big bloke. Shame he signed with that rabble Richmond

 

[democritus]

Do we think RTB might drop Suban back to sub?

 

[Mudd]

Dawson is one of those players. You either hate him or love him (maybe love is a strong word, appreciate)

I alternate between both feelings several times each game!

 

[kickett puches read]

I completely agree and don't understand why the hell people think he is a decent player. Seriously bad under pressure and just holds onto a player when it's bombed in 1 v 1 giving away free kicks. When the ball comes in fast he just jogs behind the opposition player who just takes the mark. You know he's bad when everyone knows he doesn't like to kick the ball, wtf is that it's football

Sydney aside, he very rarely gets bags kicked on him... People only want to focus on the negative.... More often than not, he wins his position.


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[Tbonefreo]

Best thing about dawson is that he makes every campaigner earn their mark. Those punches to the back of the head must make you worry everytime the ball is flying in

 

[Sweetback]

Dawson has a nasty streak that is sorely missing from the rest of the squad.

 

[UFO Tatsu]

Sydney aside, he very rarely gets bags kicked on him... People only want to focus on the negative.... More often than not, he wins his position.


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One of Tippett's goals was when he was on Clarke. So technically, he scored 2 on Dawson.

 

[JamFrank]

Dawson has also consistently been voted best finals player for Fremantle. Experienced defender who will do a good job and at a minimum halve the contest.

 

[kp junior]

Pretty sure he got 3 in the third and 2 in the fourth, most of them were made from contested marks inside 50 from what I remember, he kicked very straight as well. Good signs.
Edit; what makes this even more impressive is that Peel only had 9 goals for the game with the forward line having limited opportunities.

So I hope Ross saw that, and doesn't sub him early in the 3rd if he starts quietly. If he picks him!


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[FreoRicci]

Rance is pretty slippery coming out of defence I would have thought. He is agile and pretty fast for a fairly big bloke. Shame he signed with that rabble Richmond

Actually Rance is the same height as Mundy.. Weird given Mundy doesn't look that tall. But definitely agree, poor Richmond

 

[Freomaniac]

Macca must come in for Dawson. Griff has to replace Clarke.
Tabs or AP in for Mzungu (should be Suban based on his performance today)
Langdon in for Clancee

Do we think Sutcliffe will miss? Seemed to hurt his shoulder again.
I'd like to see
In: Taberner, Griffin, McPharlin (if McPharlin misses then Alex Pearce), Grey and LangdonOut: Suban, Clarke, C Pearce, Sutcliffe and Mzungu

Don't know why Langdon should be in. Does Ross Lyon have the balls to do it? As for you Spoken4, Wise Idea playing 3 rookies in a Prelim? I can understand Alex Pearce. Give the choice of giving a 1st year guy a game in the Prelim... Weller in.

 

[Freomaniac]

If we pick the same forwardline from the 2013 GF again I'll be upset. Clarke is useless as a second tall forward and as a backup ruck.

We won't have the same Forward line in the 2013 grand final If Taberner plays. Griffin is a better 2nd ruck and tall forward than Clarke.

 

[Righteo]

We won't have the same Forward line in the 2013 grand final If Taberner plays. Griffin is a better 2nd ruck and tall forward than Clarke.

I truly hope those two guys make the cut, after the weekends games I'm more keen for three talls up front than ever. Has been effective when we've done it in the past.

 

[Freoforever86]

One of Tippett's goals was when he was on Clarke. So technically, he scored 2 on Dawson.

Yeah where Clarke grabbed his arm. Stupid free kick.

 

[tek87]

i admire Griffin competitiveness but Clarke has the better skillset/athleticism and the bigger upside. I think we have to go for Clarke especially given Griffin's latest injury/risk. Taberner will play if the conditions suit. Mcpharlin seems in doubt. Taberner for Pearce at this stage and mcpharlin in for mzungu. the smoky for me is Grey in as another small defender given the strengths of Hawks and Crows