I've never seen Mark Fine umpire but I'm told from several sources that Ormond never lost a game when he was the club umpire.
I may not like Ormond, but I have umpired with Finey and he does a good job, not that the games were ever in a position for either umpire to influence though!
He has never been the club umpire, maybe averages 3 a year and sometimes does the thirds.
That would only be because premier games are different wouldn't it? He umpired the 2's every time I ever saw Ormond in Division 1...



