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Review QF: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly vs. Collingwood
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I would think the former.
Doubt it.
Its not just Nicks' when we lose, just as its not all his doing when we win.
Really is a hard contest who was more stupid. How the **** does Riley not just bang it through with no one in front of him..
But the selfishness of Keays to be behind the Pies player and be calling for it.. fmd.
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Good coaching would have given the players clear instructions to not kick it near Moore.
Exactly like when we play Port, keep it well clear of Aliir.
Played like someone in their first final. That kick back into the corridor from the back flank changed the momentum of the match and possibly cost us the match.
Good:
Pedlar saved his career last night
Laird and Walker were decent.
Bond down back was competitive and worked so hard in close, definitely has a future.
We have a 2nd chance.
Nicks spoke very well after the game. We need composure now more than ever.
If we can get through next week and have Brisbane at the Gabba or Geelong at the MCG, its not the worst situation in the world. Geelong is away from KP and we match up well against Brisbane.
Bad:
Peatling, Dawson, Milera, OBrien and Hinge let us down.
Thilthorpe didn't get it right and needs to watch the replay of how he didn't contest when he should have.
I get that our midfield is average and we need one extra around the ball but if you can't extract the ball cleanly with 1 extra its pointless. Hacking it long to Moore continually was just awful football.
Ugly:
Booing Isaac Quanynor, if you boo'd this man you are the problem. Have a good hard look at yourself, its disgraceful and you made the Adelaide Football Club look like the biggest hick, jackass, backward, sore loser organisation of ferals and in turn Collingwood also look like the squeaky-clean darlings of the AFL, congrats they are the good guys now.
Pedlar saved his career last night
Laird and Walker were decent.
Bond down back was competitive and worked so hard in close, definitely has a future.
We have a 2nd chance.
Nicks spoke very well after the game. We need composure now more than ever.
If we can get through next week and have Brisbane at the Gabba or Geelong at the MCG, its not the worst situation in the world. Geelong is away from KP and we match up well against Brisbane.
Bad:
Peatling, Dawson, Milera, OBrien and Hinge let us down.
Thilthorpe didn't get it right and needs to watch the replay of how he didn't contest when he should have.
I get that our midfield is average and we need one extra around the ball but if you can't extract the ball cleanly with 1 extra its pointless. Hacking it long to Moore continually was just awful football.
Ugly:
Booing Isaac Quanynor, if you boo'd this man you are the problem. Have a good hard look at yourself, its disgraceful and you made the Adelaide Football Club look like the biggest hick, jackass, backward, sore loser organisation of ferals and in turn Collingwood also look like the squeaky-clean darlings of the AFL, congrats they are the good guys now.
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My guess is Thithorpe deferred to Keays behind him, thinking Keays had better vision on who was likely to run down TT attempting the open kick. He would have assumed a senior leader like Keays would both be correct about the defensive pressure on TT, and be in the open to actually receive and execute, neither of which was true.
Keays calling for the ball was monumentally stupid and inexcusable, and Thilthorpe giving it to him was very dumb but perhaps a little bit excusable
We have a unique talent over time for how many times we've appeared to have an easy walk it in goal and somehow manage to totally mess it up. 
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Thats a lot of assumptions to blame Keays and absolve TT of making the wrong decision.
TT should have kicked the goal. Big game players take on the responsibility of the moment. They want it.
TT panicked and gave the ball off. Its 100% on him.
Both panicked.
Finals pressure, especially when losing, does that.
So many instances last night of panic.
Including coaches box.
It's a different game in September. Even junior level.
I watched an u13s team last weekend lose their second Final. Their fourth loss of the season.
Coming up against a Finals hardened side, as all the other top four sides are, was always going to be tough.
Collingwood probably even tougher given their supporter base.
Hard to mount a comeback, with the unusual "Collingwoooood" chant. It would have rattled our guys also.
Really needed to beat up on GC in our first Final in 8 years....
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i'm as dissapointed as anyone about last night, but it's too early to throw the toys out of the cot.
The main reason we lost imo was due to some diabolical gameday strategy decisions from our coaching group, and some critical, piss poor decision making from some of our players in the last quarter when we were a genuine chance to challenge for the lead.
That aside though, we can't ignore that for a young, inexperienced team in their first foray into finals footy, some of the other external noise that was going on around the club like the Rankine scenario and Tex's 300th, was far from ideal distraction (I don't care what anyone from within the club says about being 'laser focussed' on the task at hand - warm fuzzy celebtarory videos for milestone players and group apologies from team mates can only serve to distract from the task at hand - even if only slightly).
Really looking forward to seeing how they respond next week, when the sole focus will be on the game. If we serve that up again, I'll be alot more concerned.
The main reason we lost imo was due to some diabolical gameday strategy decisions from our coaching group, and some critical, piss poor decision making from some of our players in the last quarter when we were a genuine chance to challenge for the lead.
That aside though, we can't ignore that for a young, inexperienced team in their first foray into finals footy, some of the other external noise that was going on around the club like the Rankine scenario and Tex's 300th, was far from ideal distraction (I don't care what anyone from within the club says about being 'laser focussed' on the task at hand - warm fuzzy celebtarory videos for milestone players and group apologies from team mates can only serve to distract from the task at hand - even if only slightly).
Really looking forward to seeing how they respond next week, when the sole focus will be on the game. If we serve that up again, I'll be alot more concerned.
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I just saw the replay of it.
TT should have just kicked it. The hesitation put him under the pump and for a moment the handball off looks like a good option.
It was a shit handball
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Best team all season, finish minor premiers then sh*t the bed in a final. I feel like I've seen this movie before.
Still, the writing was on the wall well before last night - our last 4 games were poor. Our last really good performance was against Port - say what you will about the quality of the opposition, but to kick a score that big and win by nearly 100 points in those conditions was a great effort. Since then we were ordinary against Hawthorn and Collingwood but did just enough to win, and we barely managed to fall across the line against the Kangaroos and Eagles. I was hoping the week off might have allowed us to refocus and sharpen up again but it hasn't happened.
Bizarre coaching (why are Laird and Keays back in the midfield like it's 2021?), constant long bombs to where we know damn well that Collingwood have a spare player. Our defensive system that was so good all year just fell apart - I lost count of the number of times I saw our defenders yelling and gesticulating at each other after Collingwood cut through us for yet another easy mark / goal. That suggests a lack of cohesion that we haven't seen this year, like players either didn't know what they were supposed to be doing or just weren't doing it.
Collingwood played much smarter - they went short and fast, kept the ball moving constantly and by not bombing long into their forward line they pretty much negated our spare player. Which begs the question of if the opposition extra man is hurting us a lot more than ours is hurting them then why not give up our spare in order to go man theirs up instead?
Hopefully we can pull ourselves together and at least avoid the straight sets exit, but it's clear we're not a premiership team yet. We're still an A grade midfielder short (possibly Draper can develop into that, but we still need to find another one). Surprised we didn't really try Curtin in the middle much, too. He's been great on the wing for most of the year but I'd like to see us swing him into the middle a bit more, too. Perhaps that's the plan for next year. But certainly Laird has no business being in the midfield ahead of Curtin. Or ahead of pretty much anybody for that matter.
Still, the writing was on the wall well before last night - our last 4 games were poor. Our last really good performance was against Port - say what you will about the quality of the opposition, but to kick a score that big and win by nearly 100 points in those conditions was a great effort. Since then we were ordinary against Hawthorn and Collingwood but did just enough to win, and we barely managed to fall across the line against the Kangaroos and Eagles. I was hoping the week off might have allowed us to refocus and sharpen up again but it hasn't happened.
Bizarre coaching (why are Laird and Keays back in the midfield like it's 2021?), constant long bombs to where we know damn well that Collingwood have a spare player. Our defensive system that was so good all year just fell apart - I lost count of the number of times I saw our defenders yelling and gesticulating at each other after Collingwood cut through us for yet another easy mark / goal. That suggests a lack of cohesion that we haven't seen this year, like players either didn't know what they were supposed to be doing or just weren't doing it.
Collingwood played much smarter - they went short and fast, kept the ball moving constantly and by not bombing long into their forward line they pretty much negated our spare player. Which begs the question of if the opposition extra man is hurting us a lot more than ours is hurting them then why not give up our spare in order to go man theirs up instead?
Hopefully we can pull ourselves together and at least avoid the straight sets exit, but it's clear we're not a premiership team yet. We're still an A grade midfielder short (possibly Draper can develop into that, but we still need to find another one). Surprised we didn't really try Curtin in the middle much, too. He's been great on the wing for most of the year but I'd like to see us swing him into the middle a bit more, too. Perhaps that's the plan for next year. But certainly Laird has no business being in the midfield ahead of Curtin. Or ahead of pretty much anybody for that matter.
Anyway let's move past it. Go Crows.
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