Preview R14: Changes vs. Sydney Swans

[BACCS]

Maybe but he is either injured now or has given up

His lack of or outright refusal to take an extra step and tackle makes Rory Atkins look like Rory Sloane

If he is injured step away and rest for next year - if not the coach needs to - oh why bother

2nd best tackler in the league only 2 years ago too, I hope it's been injury holding him back as I do think he's better than the output we've seen this year.

 

[footy4ever]

Borlase to play forward. Keane stays in. Murray plays back too

Borlase forward? I just knew Nicks followed my posts!!

 

[Scorpus]

If Smith, Tex and Laird are all out this week and ROB comes back we will go to about 1300-1350 games of experience total...

North Melbourne play with about ~1800 each week (including Shiels) and Ben Keays will be our most experienced with 126 games sans Walker.

Most sides will go in with about 2100-2700.

Frightening level of inexperience for an established side.

That's because Nicks has spent a lot of effort "rebuilding" the side by pumping games into said omitted senior players (and other trash tier players) rather than developing the next generation

 

[maxlilly]

Is there any reason we shouldn't be looking at T. Murray over Borlase, a guy that is an actual ruck/forward?

Toby Murray is barely sanfl ready, let alone afl ready

 

[BACCS]

Clearly Tex pulled up a little sore after training last night, sensible decision to give him more time. He said earlier in the week that last nights session was the critical one for him.

 

[BACCS]

Any other news yet Trigger13? I'm guessing no debutants or we probably would have heard by now. Still no update on Laird either.

 

[Crows I Am]

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Good decision. No point rushing him back just before the bye in a game we have little chance of winning.

 

[n4sir]

(You can never have too much Michael Ironside, especially with this news)

 

[Hell Boy6669]

Any other news yet Trigger13? I'm guessing no debutants or we probably would have heard by now. Still no update on Laird either.

If laird gets up, expect to see him move to HB. My mail has been correct today

 

[Scorpus]

Games Played Under Nicks
Brodie Smith

33

Brodie Smith

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.5

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.2

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

500.1

5star

D

17.1

4star

K

12.6

5star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.5

3star

T

2.3

3star

MG

438.9

5star

D

17.2

5star

K

10.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.6

5star

last two years - 34
Rory Sloane

9

Rory Sloane

Age

36

Ht

183cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.7

5star

K

11.7

4star

HB

11.9

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

6.6

5star

CL

5.7

5star

D

15.3

4star

K

7.3

3star

HB

8.0

4star

M

1.3

1star

T

3.3

4star

CL

4.2

5star

D

22.2

5star

K

8.6

4star

HB

13.6

5star

M

3.2

4star

T

6.0

5star

CL

4.6

5star

last two years - 22
David Mackay

14

David Mackay

Age

37

Ht

181cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.0

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.7

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

3.2

5star

MG

315.4

4star

D

16.5

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

9.5

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.0

3star

MG

265.5

4star

D

12.0

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.2

3star

- 28
Jake Kelly

29

Jake Kelly

Age

31

Ht

190cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.5

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.6

4star

MG

157.8

2star

D

8.1

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

104.1

2star

D

14.8

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

6.0

5star

T

4.2

5star

MG

107.0

2star

- 35
Lachlan Murphy

4

Lachlan Murphy

Age

27

Ht

178cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

5.8

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.4

5star

G

0.9

4star

D

8.8

2star

K

4.8

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.0

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.6

5star

G

1.0

4star

- 72
Ned McHenry

25

Ned Mchenry

Age

25

Ht

179cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.7

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.7

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

0.0

1star

D

9.7

2star

K

4.0

1star

HB

5.7

3star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.3

3star

G

0.0

1star

D

10.0

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

6.4

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.0

1star

- 70
Elliott Himmelberg

12

Elliott Himmelberg

Age

27

Ht

196cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.4

2star

K

5.1

2star

HB

4.3

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.0

4star

D

5.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

2.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.0

2star

G

0.0

1star

D

11.8

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.2

4star

- 37

Total - 298 games

None of these players are part of our next premiership team

Games Deficit From Not Playing AFL
Luke Nankervis last two years - 22
Josh Worrell last four years - 44
Brayden Cook - 50
Luke Pedlar - 29
Darcy Fogarty

32

Darcy Fogarty

Age

26

Ht

192cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.5

2star

K

5.7

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.7

4star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

2.3

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.3

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.6

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

1.0

4star

- 21
Harry Schoenberg - 20
Riley Thilthorpe - about 10
Dan Curtin - 11
Jake Soligo - 6
Billy Dowling this year and a few last year - 18
Zak Taylor - don't know if he'll make it but could have been tried and have 20 games

Total - 253 games

And for most players that isn't even every single game at AFL level, just reasonable exposure given their talent, draft status and our performances

Fischer McAsey

3

Fischer Mcasey

Age

25

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.8

2star

K

3.3

1star

HB

3.5

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.3

3star

MG

102.3

2star

D

6.8

1star

K

3.3

1star

HB

3.5

2star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.3

2star

MG

102.3

2star

D

7.2

2star

K

3.6

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.6

4star

MG

114.8

2star

- if he was good and played most games, 50+ more games

 

[CromradeCromulent]

Toby Murray is barely sanfl ready, let alone afl ready

10 goals from 7 games whilst working on a farm up until two weeks ago and he isn't even SANFL ready? lol, lmao, even.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Toby Murray is barely sanfl ready, let alone afl ready

That seems harsh, we wouldn’t even have considered drafting him if he wasn’t SANFL standard

 

[jackster83]

10 goals from 7 games whilst working on a farm up until two weeks ago and he isn't even SANFL ready? lol, lmao, even.

Might as well give him a sighter game while we wait for Thilthorpe to return.

Our season's shot. What have we got to lose?

 

[Scorpus]

Players We Will Need to Replace

Reilly O'Brien

43

Reilly O'brien

Age

30

Ht

201cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.4

4star

K

5.9

2star

HB

8.5

5star

CL

1.6

4star

HO

23.8

5star

D

14.4

3star

K

5.9

2star

HB

8.5

4star

CL

1.6

4star

HO

23.8

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

7.8

5star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

24.8

5star

- 92 games under Nicks, turns 29 this year, no clear replacement

Matt Crouch

5

Matt Crouch

Age

31

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

28.4

5star

K

12.0

4star

HB

16.4

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.8

5star

D

24.9

5star

K

9.7

4star

HB

15.1

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.2

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

10.8

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

2.0

4star

- 45 games under Nicks, currently 29, phased out then reintroduced

Rory Laird

29

Rory Laird

Age

32

Ht

178cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.4

5star

K

12.9

5star

HB

12.5

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.3

4star

MG

367.5

5star

D

19.6

5star

K

10.9

4star

HB

8.7

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

MG

255.3

4star

D

14.6

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

3.2

4star

T

4.0

5star

- 93 games under Nicks, turns 31 this year, definitely not in our next premiership team

All of these players have had question marks over their performances under Nicks and it's another big chunk of experience that will need turning over before a flag. 230 games in total to them under Nicks so far

I think the club would have been hoping that Smith, Laird and O'Brien's form would have held up better, and Milera not getting injured so often.

 

[MrBarry]

That's because Nicks has spent a lot of effort "rebuilding" the side by pumping games into said omitted senior players (and other trash tier players) rather than developing the next generation

Correct, it's been caused by absolutely 0 squad rotation

 

[BACCS]

If laird gets up, expect to see him move to HB. My mail has been correct today

Good, sounds like that MM will move into the midfield as well, both good positional moves.

 

[MrBarry]

Players We Will Need to Replace

Reilly O'Brien - 92 games under Nicks, turns 29 this year, no clear replacement

Matt Crouch - 45 games under Nicks, currently 29, phased out then reintroduced

Rory Laird - 93 games under Nicks, turns 31 this year, definitely not in our next premiership team

All of these players have had question marks over their performances under Nicks and it's another big chunk of experience that will need turning over before a flag. 230 games in total to them under Nicks so far

Crouch stays imo, the other two can go.

 

[Scorpus]

Crouch stays imo, the other two can go.

Even if Crouch stays in the short term, he will still need to be replaced in the next few years

 

[FullyBigKPro]

Interesting RE Tex, sounds like he might be named but given until last minute Saturday to see how he feels if plays or not...

 

[Scorpus]

Correct, it's been caused by absolutely 0 squad rotation

Most of the players above the age of 25 under Nicks have played until retirement, or been forced out due to injury

 

[Crow till I die]

 

[maxlilly]

10 goals from 7 games whilst working on a farm up until two weeks ago and he isn't even SANFL ready? lol, lmao, even.

As you say, he has had a whole 7 sanfl games

 

[Velvet George]

Rest Rankine, madness to play him with a bye coming up

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Pleased we are not playing him out of desperation & gets another 2 weeks break to come back fresh after the bye.

Would prefer if we can get him back near his best to play on next season... but that means managing him properly.

 

[Crows I Am]

Players We Will Need to Replace

Reilly O'Brien - 92 games under Nicks, turns 29 this year, no clear replacement

Matt Crouch - 45 games under Nicks, currently 29, phased out then reintroduced

Rory Laird - 93 games under Nicks, turns 31 this year, definitely not in our next premiership team

All of these players have had question marks over their performances under Nicks and it's another big chunk of experience that will need turning over before a flag. 230 games in total to them under Nicks so far

I think the club would have been hoping that Smith, Laird and O'Brien's form would have held up better, and Milera not getting injured so often.

At least we have some options to replace Laird and Crouch. Rachele, Dowling, Pedlar, Edwards, Taylor could all play midfield if they are given an opportunity.

ROB'S replacement will need to come from another club as we have ignored our ruck stocks for so long and have no options on our list.