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what is going on with Max? A lot like Soligo, he simply hasn’t come on as projected. Is this all we’re gonna get from the lad?
I don't think Max is being given licence to attack. So his defence-first mindset is all we're really being allowed to get from him

As I said on another thread, alongside coaching and drafting - development needs to be put under a massive microscope
 
Adam Kelly backing up the selection of ROB and that they broke even in the ruck duel. Refuse to admit their mistakes.

Anyway, Carlton only play Pittonet so absolutely no reason for ROB to play this week.

My changes:

Out: ROB, In: Fog
Out: Jones, In: Cumming
Out: Pedlar, In: Edwards
Out: Borlase, In: Hinge

Hinge may be underdone but will give us back some of our right/left balance. Having Worrell, Hinge, Dawson down the left side will help vary up the angles of our F50 entries.

Not sure how Carlton will line up with Weitering & Dean out. Perhaps McGovern goes back? Either way, good enough reason to keep Maley in and go tall up forward.
Everything Kelly says makes me want to vomit.

He's fallen into the classic Crows trap where they genuinely think they are an elite organisation and as such are never wrong. It's been a stain on the club for 30 years.

We are not elite. In any way. All evidence says otherwise.
 
Carlton Don't have 3 tall forwards so Borlase doesn't need to play.

Carlton won't have Weitering either, so if we move the ball quick for the whole game our 3 talls should be beating that Carlton defence easily.

If you go slow and allow Carlton the time to get back and team defend it makes it much harder for our forwards.
I'd still play him. It frees Worrell up to intercept and attack.
We struggle when Worrell has to defend good big forwards.
 
in: Make a bloody selection statement for the first time in your career Nicks.

Out: Blaming your players if you arent willing to make a bloody selection statement ever in your career Nicks.
The only change he could make that will make a significant improvement would be to sack himself.
Anything else is just shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic.
 

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I don't think Max is being given licence to attack. So his defence-first mindset is all we're really being allowed to get from him

As I said on another thread, alongside coaching and drafting - development needs to be put under a massive microscope
Can’t be that unless he disobeyed nicks as he did attack and try and play on a couple of times on Friday night.
 
Can’t be that unless he disobeyed nicks as he did attack and try and play on a couple of times on Friday night.
Couple of plays yes when we were chasing the game. But he's not a predominantly attacking half back in the mould of a Lachie Ash or a Josh Daicos

He's obviously not alone in being told to be defence-first
 
Couple of plays yes when we were chasing the game. But he's not a predominantly attacking half back in the mould of a Lachie Ash or a Josh Daicos

He's obviously not alone in being told to be defence-first
Oscar Ryan came to us as that type of player, showed some of it in his 1st year.....but ALAS he now appears a mile off that player currently.


SNAPSHOT: “Oscar Ryan is an aggressive rebound defender who takes the game on with speed and intensity, but can also intercept bravely.”

Having shown good promise across seven bottom-age games last year, Murray Bushrangers defender Oscar Ryan has come on strongly in 2023. The Shepparton United product was not included in the initial Vic Country hub heading into his draft year, but worked into the fold to play a full National Championships.

Ryan waxed with a bunch of capable rebound defenders in Country’s back line and was also a mainstay in the Bushrangers’ defence, which saw a lot of action this season. Not only did he hold up well against opposition attacks, but he hit back on the rebound and was a constant attacking threat with his carving runs and kicking.

STRENGTHS:

  • Defensive versatility
  • Intercepting
  • Rebounding
  • Speed
  • Toughness

IMPROVEMENTS:

  • Composure
  • Disposal consistency

An eye-catching player who blends old school toughness with a modern day slingshot style, Ryan is quite versatile in his defensive duties. At 187cm, he's capable of playing above his size but can also hunt at ground level or blanket dangerous forwards. He's very much an attacking asset too, with rebounding making up a large part of his overall profile.

Ryan ran a three-second flat 20m sprint at the National Draft Combine and breaks the lines with such speed on-field. He's agile enough to step around opponents and backs his ability to do so. Not only does he drive his legs with intent, but Ryan also makes aggressive decisions to attack the corridor and will often deliver spearing passes via route one.

When it all comes off, Ryan is one of the most damaging players in his role. Though, he can sometimes too often play in a high gear and rush his execution on the counter-attack. Biting off a greater number of low-percentage options also impacts his efficiency, but he's usually good enough to make it work. If he can balance the tempo of his play and decision making, he'll be all the more effective.

To compliment his attacking drive, Ryan has made vast improvements in the way of intercepting. He averaged 5.2 marks and 7.9 intercept possessions across 10 Coates Talent League games this year, often seen putting his body on the line and springing up at full stretch to reel the ball in. Unlike many other playmaking defenders, it means he's capable of winning his own ball.

Having been made to compete with the likes of Angus Hastie, Luamon Lual, and Billy Wilson in Vic Country's back line, Ryan's numbers were down during the National Championships, but he produced a consistent season in Bushrangers colours and is a willing two-way defender with strong upside. He'll likely only continue to add weapons to his arsenal, too.

SUMMARY:

There are many rebound defenders scattered across this year’s cohort of AFL hopefuls, and Ryan is one with a chance of being snapped up in the National Draft. His ability to break the lines and turn defence into attack is appealing, as is the intensity with which he plays. There remains a few touches of polish to add, but the improving 18-year-old should have a decent amount of interest at the back-end of the intake.
 
Couple of plays yes when we were chasing the game. But he's not a predominantly attacking half back in the mould of a Lachie Ash or a Josh Daicos

He's obviously not alone in being told to be defence-first
I’m not sure he’s that sort of player though is he? Hes not overly quick which I think is a significant part of being an attacking half back.
 
So we'd have go to:

Out: ROB, Pedlar (concussion), Jones, Borlase
In: Edwards, Cumming, Hinge, Butts

Give Maley the extra ruck minutes. He cannot be worse than ROB and might clunk a mark or two.

Borlase is unluck as he was pretty good. I'm assuming Butts is fit.
 
So we'd have go to:

Out: ROB, Pedlar (concussion), Jones, Borlase
In: Edwards, Cumming, Hinge, Butts

Give Maley the extra ruck minutes. He cannot be worse than ROB and might clunk a mark or two.

Borlase is unluck as he was pretty good. I'm assuming Butts is fit.
Butts wont be out of concussion protocols
 
So we'd have go to:

Out: ROB, Pedlar (concussion), Jones, Borlase
In: Edwards, Cumming, Hinge, Butts

Give Maley the extra ruck minutes. He cannot be worse than ROB and might clunk a mark or two.

Borlase is unluck as he was pretty good. I'm assuming Butts is fit.
Butts is out for two games at least (12 day protocol)
 
His problem is his kicking. Nevertheless, on Tex's instruction he took the right-pocket checkside and succeeded.
Then, in a similar impossible position on the LHS, he sensibly passed off to Cook, who goaled, hilariously after Cook's opponent chose to leave him and run in to help guard the hook kick. Two goals out of two, so far, with good decision making.

Finally, he looked perplexed on the long shot for goal, but took Tex's order and went back to kick it, unsuccessfully. In his current form, Tex himself would have missed the shot, so 2/3 goals not bad from his 3 difficult opportunities. ROB wouldn't have been in the ballpark for any of them.
TBF RoB did succeed in setting up one golden opportunity. Too bad it was for the opposition.
 
Oscar Ryan came to us as that type of player, showed some of it in his 1st year.....but ALAS he now appears a mile off that player currently.


SNAPSHOT: “Oscar Ryan is an aggressive rebound defender who takes the game on with speed and intensity, but can also intercept bravely.”

Having shown good promise across seven bottom-age games last year, Murray Bushrangers defender Oscar Ryan has come on strongly in 2023. The Shepparton United product was not included in the initial Vic Country hub heading into his draft year, but worked into the fold to play a full National Championships.

Ryan waxed with a bunch of capable rebound defenders in Country’s back line and was also a mainstay in the Bushrangers’ defence, which saw a lot of action this season. Not only did he hold up well against opposition attacks, but he hit back on the rebound and was a constant attacking threat with his carving runs and kicking.

STRENGTHS:

  • Defensive versatility
  • Intercepting
  • Rebounding
  • Speed
  • Toughness

IMPROVEMENTS:

  • Composure
  • Disposal consistency

An eye-catching player who blends old school toughness with a modern day slingshot style, Ryan is quite versatile in his defensive duties. At 187cm, he's capable of playing above his size but can also hunt at ground level or blanket dangerous forwards. He's very much an attacking asset too, with rebounding making up a large part of his overall profile.

Ryan ran a three-second flat 20m sprint at the National Draft Combine and breaks the lines with such speed on-field. He's agile enough to step around opponents and backs his ability to do so. Not only does he drive his legs with intent, but Ryan also makes aggressive decisions to attack the corridor and will often deliver spearing passes via route one.

When it all comes off, Ryan is one of the most damaging players in his role. Though, he can sometimes too often play in a high gear and rush his execution on the counter-attack. Biting off a greater number of low-percentage options also impacts his efficiency, but he's usually good enough to make it work. If he can balance the tempo of his play and decision making, he'll be all the more effective.

To compliment his attacking drive, Ryan has made vast improvements in the way of intercepting. He averaged 5.2 marks and 7.9 intercept possessions across 10 Coates Talent League games this year, often seen putting his body on the line and springing up at full stretch to reel the ball in. Unlike many other playmaking defenders, it means he's capable of winning his own ball.

Having been made to compete with the likes of Angus Hastie, Luamon Lual, and Billy Wilson in Vic Country's back line, Ryan's numbers were down during the National Championships, but he produced a consistent season in Bushrangers colours and is a willing two-way defender with strong upside. He'll likely only continue to add weapons to his arsenal, too.

SUMMARY:

There are many rebound defenders scattered across this year’s cohort of AFL hopefuls, and Ryan is one with a chance of being snapped up in the National Draft. His ability to break the lines and turn defence into attack is appealing, as is the intensity with which he plays. There remains a few touches of polish to add, but the improving 18-year-old should have a decent amount of interest at the back-end of the intake.
We never picked him when he was having a purple patch & we had injured players.

He's probably become disillusioned.
 

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So we'd have go to:

Out: ROB, Pedlar (concussion), Jones, Borlase
In: Edwards, Cumming, Hinge, Butts

Give Maley the extra ruck minutes. He cannot be worse than ROB and might clunk a mark or two.

Borlase is unluck as he was pretty good. I'm assuming Butts is fit.
Butts still out for another week due to quick turnaround of games.
 
We never picked him when he was having a purple patch & we had injured players.

He's probably become disillusioned.
We picked Bond for games at the end of the ‘24 season when Ryan in particular and Edwards were putting in good performances at SANFL level.

I’m more than happy to be proven wrong on the call, but I don’t see the upside of Bond - especially as a BP - and would have selected Ryan then.
 
Look you'd hope not, but potentially.

Lad had an injury riddled year last year so hopefully he can bounce back.
The issue I have is the 1970crow principle that Nicks picks his preferred player order over pre-season... so if you are not on his list, it doesn’t matter how well you perform in the sanfl, he won't pick you over a more experienced player even if in average form.

Must be disheartening for younger players.
 

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