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Mega Thread Random recruiting hypotheticals 2011

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Malifice said:
What an absolute steal.

Thats going to come back and haunt 16 other clubs in the years to come.
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Although, when Mitchell comes good and forms our forward team with Levi, most Carlton supporters wont be complaining too loudly
 
id go shocenmakers would be a good player although doubt hawthorn would trade him
 
yibbida said:
Just like Daniel Rich....
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Rich had a good first year and then plateaued as expected. Yarran is already as influential a player, if not more so. And Chris has only just started showing us all what he's capable of.

Yarran also has a few weaknesses in his game that are yet to be ironed out. No need to take that first bounce - just tuck it under your arm and run son. Also needs to have a better awareness of whats ahead as well as whats behind... needs to lower the eyes when on those breathtaking runs.

Give him a true stay at home key forward target he can kick to, and he'll only need to run to the middle of the ground and release.

I am looking forward to another ten years of those breathtaking runs from defence.

OTOH Darling's had a good first year and his upside and room for improvement is immense. He is going to be a deadly forward in the style of Bradshaw or Lucas, but with greater speed and agility.

Serious bargain for the Eagles.

One of (if not THE) steals of the draft.

OT, we need key forwards and (as odd as it sounds) more mids. Juddy, Simpson, Carrazzo and Scotland are getting on.
 

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Yarran's issue is that he seems to start games strong and fade late. With a bigger tank he will become an amazing weapon. 16 touches in the first half against Essendon, 6 in the second for example
 
Malifice said:
To be fair to Yazz, the Ball wasnt down back all that often in the second half!
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Nah it didnt, but you could see at the ground that he was buggered.. looked like he could hardly run at all. Has happened a few times this year. It'll come - and he will be unstoppable when it does.

Your right though - if he had a stay at home forward to kick to it would be alot easier for him.
 
Yazz13 said:
Your right though - if he had a stay at home forward to kick to it would be alot easier for him.
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The kid can kick the footy beautifully.

Imagine if he looked up and saw a leading FF steaming out of the square (and what FF wouldnt come screaming up into space seeing Yarran burst out of the backline).

And no, this isnt an excuse to mention he who cannot be named.
 
Yazz13 said:
Nah it didnt, but you could see at the ground that he was buggered.. looked like he could hardly run at all. Has happened a few times this year. It'll come - and he will be unstoppable when it does.

Your right though - if he had a stay at home forward to kick to it would be alot easier for him.
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Agree mate.Has barely played a second half all year. Always dominates in the first, okay in the second, then fades massively.

Will come though, and when he is getting 25 touches a game, we will be hard to beat.
 

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HARKER said:
I wonder whether the would be any entertainment of a straight Dawes for Hampson trade?
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I guarantee you they wouldn't be. He's not a superstar but he's a key figure in a team smack in the middle of their window. Whenever you come up against Collingwood, one of the first thoughts is stop Cloke and Dawes.

Cam Wood is underrated as well IMO. Hampson will be better than him but not by enough to warrant trading Dawes.
 
Malifice said:
Imagine if he looked up and saw a leading FF steaming out of the square (and what FF wouldnt come screaming up into space seeing Yarran burst out of the backline).
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Agree with you wholeheartedly. Yaz gets it into his head to run, run, run and then because that's all that he has thought of he runs himself inevitably into trouble be it with being run down from the sides or through not thinking of what the final result will be of the run. Once the mental side of the game catches up with his physical gifts will be the best rebounding defender in the game. The rate that he has improved from last season to this year undoubtedly demonstrates that he will get there its simply a matter of when.

At the moment I love to watch him as he's simply breathtaking but at the same time there may not be a scarier player to watch at the club due to his propensity to run himself into trouble.

That and the issue of working on extending his tank which will come over another preseason or two and the sky is the limit. It's a pleasure to hear him talk of the club both in interviews and in general conversation with other members and fans. To think that when we first got him he was constantly terribly homesick and that there was always a danger that he'd head home to WA. The club have managed both he and Jeff Garlett extremely well (as well as others I'm sure). A lot of appreciative young men at the club but Yaz may top them all.
 
NAUGHT5 said:
Cam Wood is underrated as well IMO.
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Will forever be one of those players that is linked unfairly to his draft position. As such he is a huge candidate to be chronically underrated. I hadn't seen much of him until the past few weeks but since the Pies are almost always on FTA television (as we are, to be honest, but that's not the direction I'm going) I've been able to see a lot of them. It may have only been a couple of games towards the end of the season (one of them a game in which his team was slaughtered and didn't really have a fair crack after quarter time) but there's just something about his game. He's not the spud that he's made out to be. Has a large aerobic capacity and has some scary good physical attributes. In the games that I've seen he has also displayed some "smarts" about him. He'd be someone that I'd be interested in if he was to come on the market but would fully expect clubs that need a ruck (Richmond, Port Adelaide) to offer up more than we would though I'm sure given Jolly's age and his injury riddled season that the Pies will ensure they lock him up.
 
Malifice said:
First rounder or JR would be my offer.
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I think JR makes a lot of sense for Adelaide. They're not that far away from being a finals team - hell, they should be a finals team they have A LOT more talent than does Essendon (and Sydney for that matter). Not only is he the local boy (hence why you'd suggest JR for them, I'm guessing) but he fits right into that age group of players that they're building around - 22-25 year olds in Vince, Van Berlo, Tambling (yes, I know), Knights, Douglas, Tippett, Sauce, MacKay and Otten. They've got some younger known prospects but JR does fit into that mid career group of guys that they have perfectly well. They know what they'd be getting from him - a high character guy who can push himself to near All-Australian squad selection off of the half back line. If they could find someone to kick the ball in from behinds other than JR they'd not have one of the major confidence issues that derails him - something I've never understood Carlton persisting with him doing as he just lacks all confidence in doing.

That's likely more than what they would get elsewhere. Not that I'm an advocate of trading him, I'm not. However, we don't lack for depth in medium defenders.
 

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NAUGHT5 said:
I guarantee you they wouldn't be.

Cam Wood is underrated as well IMO. Hampson will be better than him but not by enough to warrant trading Dawes.
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I think the Pies would be edgy about their ruck stocks.
They really lose something when Jolly is out, or down on form and at 30, it may be time for Collingwood to start looking around.
I'm not sure they're quite yet prepared to bank on Woods just yet.
 
Malifice said:
First rounder or JR would be my offer.
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I think it's been pretty well re-inforced here, that Russell is going nowhere.
The first rounder though is the best we've got, yet may be easily trumped by other teams looking at him that have the advantage on draft selections.

I wouldn't be surprised though for us to pay overs by throwing a fringe player in, just to firm the offer and to free up some space on our list.

I think we may just need to pay overs for anyone we target this year.
 
HARKER said:
I wouldn't be surprised though for us to pay overs by throwing a fringe player in, just to firm the offer and to free up some space on our list.
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This makes a whole lot of sense. We will have to be mindful of this when something like this occurs. Player X that we trade may not be in our long term plans and to get the roster slot for incoming Player Y that X had to go. It may look like we're paying overs when we're really not.

A general rule of thumb is that 2-for-1 trades generally benefit the team receiving the 1 even if the sum of the two combined is greater than the one.
 
Trade Bower for a second rounder, package that with our current first rounder and upgrade ourselves into the top 10...Coniglio slips and it's all smiles at Royal Pde
 
I don't want to trade Russell.
He's had a tough year, but i'm almost certain he'll bounce back and play every game next year. He's definitely in our best side when at full fitness and is a leader of the group. We might look at recreating him in another position. He did spend a bit of time out of the backline earlier this year. He's bloody quick, could be become a midfielder?

I think we'll need to offer more than our first rounder, but I think it would be a steak knives type scenario like an Austin or upgrade of their later picks.

It obviously depends on what other clubs offer and whether he nominates a club.
 
zeeCFC said:
Trade Bower for a second rounder, package that with our current first rounder and upgrade ourselves into the top 10...Coniglio slips and it's all smiles at Royal Pde
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Player X + our first for pick #5.

Isn't that what a team did last year?

Edit: Not quite. End of first round compo + #10 + #48 for Rohan Bewick + #5 + #25 + #27
 
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