Rate our Trade/Draft Season

[Bicco]

If we're trying to build sustained success I think we're doing well.
It may be coincidence but we seem to have some recruiting patterns.
Recruiting kids that know each other well. (Tassie,SA,Qld) all seem to be leaders or kids of good character. Yarran seems to have grown up 'son son style'. I can't really judge the draft but my gut feeling for the future is good.

 

[go_the_dockers]

If we're trying to build sustained success I think we're doing well.
It may be coincidence but we seem to have some recruiting patterns.
Recruiting kids that know each other well. (Tassie,SA,Qld) all seem to be leaders or kids of good character. Yarran seems to have grown up 'son son style'. I can't really judge the draft but my gut feeling for the future is good.

I think over the last 5 years we have targeted players with good skills. I can't think of too many players we have drafted who have had poor skills.

 

[Bastyy]

I put it like this

Losses
Luke McPharlin: We've obviously prepared for this, and we have backups in Alex Pearce, Alex Silvagni and now, Sam Collins
Colin Sylvia: Too fat, not quality, not needed. Shouldn't of given him a contract
Max Duffy: Could never break into the side, could of been handy, but no other club picked him up, eh.
Paul Duffield: Have got replacements for him, lost a very good kick however
Craig Moller: He was never going to make it, I'm not a fan of taking Category B Rookies, it's like trying to trade in a Key Forward at Freo, it either never works, or is not very good.
Tom Vandeluer: I had hopes for him, but he was at the very bottom of the list of Key Defenders
Ryan Crowley: Our worst loss, shouldn't of delisted him.
Jacob Ballard: Like Vandeluer, he was on the very bottom of the list of midfielders, got a game, so well done to him

Gains
Harley Bennell: Superstar, X-Factor and probably a brownlow medalist. Amazing pickup and for so cheap!
Darcy Tucker: A player to replace Duffield I think. Great user of the ball and Freo has to love him, exciting prospect.
Harley Balic: Bargain of a pick, he's a very good midfielder and another player I rate as a future Brownlow Medallist
Samuel Collins: This guy can play, amazing tall defender and will be a key member of the team.
Shane Yarran: My favourite pick up of the season, he's a goal kicker, something we need. He's also mature, so he has a better grasp of the game.
Matthew Ueberbang: A tall prospect, could be a McPharlin replacement or a Pavlich replacement, depending on where Ross likes him.
Ryan Nyhuis: Honestly know nothing about this guy, he can replace Duffield?

 

[rgauci]

OUT:
McPharlin 2015 games - 18
Sylvia 2015 games - 0
Duffy 2015 games - 0
Duffield 2015 games - 14
Crowley 2015 games - 0
Moller 2015 games - 0
Vandeluer 2015 games - 0
Ballard 2015 games - 0

We gained:

Bennell 185cm 23 y.o.
Tucker 183cm 18 y.o.
Balic 187cm 18 y.o.
Collins 194cm 21 y.o.
Yarran 186cm 26 y.o.
Uebergang 194cm 20 y.o.
Nyhuis 188cm 19 y.o.

McPharlin is a massive massive loss. Looking through the list we got, I can see 32 games and more for next year. Positions just got so much tighter.

 

[Deathly]

Bennell/10

 

[Suma Magic]

Heaps of positives. Bennell and some great drafts picks should improve your team in the short and long-term.

Getting an established KPF who could have played round 1 would have netted you an A grade IMO.

B+

 

[FreoBulldog]

A-
I think with how low our picks were in a supposed weak draft we have done really well. Our first two picks were rated considerably higher by a few of the footy experts, so well done to the recruiters for picking them when other clubs bypassed them. Harley Bennell is clearly the recruit of the year, hopefully he has turned the corner on all the badboy stuff and will be determined to prove just what a fantastic footballer he is and go to the next level (is that possible?). You can't help but get excited thinking about the speed and skill around the forward line with guys like Son son, Bennell, Ballas, Yarran, Hill and Morabito. Got me singing "Cause all I do is win, win, win"!!

 

[freo_leo29]

Ryan Crowley: Our worst loss, shouldn't of delisted him.

There is absolutely no way Crowley is a worse loss then Mcpharlin, honestly Duffield was a worse loss then Crowley our team has moved away from a full on tagger and we were better for it, now that we have a couple more attacking players added in Bennell, Yarran, Weller, Langdon etc we definitely did not need Crowley.

I was a Crowley fan and what he did for us is amazing but he simply isn't needed anymore, he should have seen the writing on the wall and retired however Freo apparently didn't communicate this well with him, so i would agree the way he was delisted was bad but delisted him was not.
How many players genuinely tore us up this year anyway?
Dangerfield - Handled it by going full offensive.
Mitchell - May have torn us up but honestly alot of his possesions were nothing chip arounds which we would not have manned up anyway seeing as we did not bother to man the likes of Hodge, Birchall etc who all had the same gameplan vs us.
I was going to try and write a list of names who possibly were the difference between teams but i honestly can't think of a list.

 

[meesy]

Wonder if clubs are really trying to hold back their KPFs from us as getting a key a forward (or two) as it literally feels like the very last piece of the puzzle.

Not really into the Balic pick as much, kinda meh for me (queries about his pace and kicking). Most excited about Yarran, seems like a hard player for opposition clubs to match up on.

 

[Alfonz]

OUT:
McPharlin 2015 games - 18
Sylvia 2015 games - 0
Duffy 2015 games - 0
Duffield 2015 games - 14
Crowley 2015 games - 0
Moller 2015 games - 0
Vandeluer 2015 games - 0
Ballard 2015 games - 0

We gained:

Bennell 185cm 23 y.o.
Tucker 183cm 18 y.o.
Balic 187cm 18 y.o.
Collins 194cm 21 y.o.
Yarran 186cm 26 y.o.
Uebergang 194cm 20 y.o.
Nyhuis 188cm 19 y.o.

McPharlin is a massive massive loss. Looking through the list we got, I can see 32 games and more for next year. Positions just got so much tighter.

Can also look at it in terms of our preliminary final team. Nobody is gone from that side. Pavlich is the only one who should be going backwards. Maybe Johnson as well. We should be able to replace a few of the lesser lights with improved and more skilled players.

McPharlin is certainly a massive loss, but he's the only real loss from the whole of 2015, and we knew his time would be up anyway. Our defence should still be solid enough. Hawthorn only had 19 scoring shots (close to a season low for them), shame about their accuracy.

Our off-season would have been A+ if we had snared McCarthy. But it has still been great, based largely on Bennell. If he can keep himself on the straight and narrow, he will be a top 5 player on our list (maybe even #2) and improve the side enormously.

 

[Allikat]

I feel like we've done a little too well which is very un-fremantle. So I'm going to give us a C in anticipation of it all being a dream & we actually just drafted a bunch of hbf spuds

 

[free at last]

I'm interested to see how many + are needed when we land McCarthy/hogan next year.

This year was going to a B+ for me but with drafting Yarran pushes us to an -A...We addressed our biggest weakness,scoring power.

I'm thinking Yarran and Bennell can add 50 gls + between them.

 

[Stuart88]

A-
Yarran & Bennell can only help fix our lack of attacking creativity, skill and x-factor we seem to have with that bottom group of mids/fwds,
Very excited to see them running around with Fyfe, Walters & Hill next year. Should be worth the price of my membership alone.
McPharlin loss will hurt, but it means guys like A.Pearce and Collins will get a chance to stand up.
Letting Crowley go, as messy as it was, was the right decision.
Hopefully the young fellas (Weller, Blakely, Grey, Langdon etc.) get more opportunity over the same ol' types like Suban, Mzungu, MDB etc. next year as Ross should surely know now that they aren't good enough to get the job done at the pointy end of the season. Interesting times ahead for the selection panel.
Very promising future, especially if we add McCarthy next offseason (feels like he is on loan to GWS haha).

 

[theGav56]

A-
Yarran & Bennell can only help fix our lack of attacking creativity, skill and x-factor we seem to have with that bottom group of mids/fwds,
Very excited to see them running around with Fyfe, Walters & Hill next year. Should be worth the price of my membership alone.
McPharlin loss will hurt, but it means guys like A.Pearce and Collins will get a chance to stand up.
Letting Crowley go, as messy as it was, was the right decision.
Hopefully the young fellas (Weller, Blakely, Grey, Langdon etc.) get more opportunity over the same ol' types like Suban, Mzungu, MDB etc. next year as Ross should surely know now that they aren't good enough to get the job done at the pointy end of the season. Interesting times ahead for the selection panel.
Very promising future, especially if we add McCarthy next offseason (feels like he is on loan to GWS haha).

Last year A Pearce seemed to find it really difficult to sustain his output, which is the problem the young guys face with Lyon I think. He wants to build a machine and then roll through the season and into the finals.

 

[Scham]

OUT:
McPharlin 2015 games - 18
Sylvia 2015 games - 0
Duffy 2015 games - 0
Duffield 2015 games - 14
Crowley 2015 games - 0
Moller 2015 games - 0
Vandeluer 2015 games - 0
Ballard 2015 games - 0

We gained:

Bennell 185cm 23 y.o.
Tucker 183cm 18 y.o.
Balic 187cm 18 y.o.
Collins 194cm 21 y.o.
Yarran 186cm 26 y.o.
Uebergang 194cm 20 y.o.
Nyhuis 188cm 19 y.o.

McPharlin is a massive massive loss. Looking through the list we got, I can see 32 games and more for next year. Positions just got so much tighter.

We've improved the list IMO, it's just a matter of how much.

Time will tell how the rookies adapt to an elite sport environment and regime but I'm confident at this early stage that Collins, Yarran, Ubergang and Nyhuis will be an upgrade on Crowley, Moller, Vandeleur and Ballard.

 

[ComradeSplutnik]

Hackdorn was very contemptous of Freo's selection of Yarran this morning.

This makes me feel rather confident that we made the right choice.

 

[Carnthedockers]

Bee Plus.

Getting Cam would have made it A+.

Problem is, we get Cam, we dont get Balic or Tucker.. I think Gws saved us from ourselves.

 

[free at last]

Problem is, we get Cam, we dont get Balic or Tucker.. I think Gws saved us from ourselves.

Heaps prefer McCarthy over Tucker & Balic.

 

[rgauci]

Heaps prefer McCarthy over Tucker & Balic.

If they would have given up McCarthy for pick 22 and pick 38 we'd be doing cartwheels. It was well beyond that. Tucker, next years 1st rounder and a current player = no thanks.

 

[Superkoops]

Hackdorn was very contemptous of Freo's selection of Yarran this morning.

This makes me feel rather confident that we made the right choice.

Heard that as well and the guy is a jackass.

Downplayed Shane's efforts in 2015 by saying he was spoon fed from a dominant midfield and didn't train hard. I look forward to Shane showing him up for complete toss bag.

 

[Allikat]

Heard that as well and the guy is a jackass.

Downplayed Shane's efforts in 2015 by saying he was spoon fed from a dominant midfield and didn't train hard. I look forward to Shane showing him up for complete toss bag.

And tbh that's kinda what we need to do next year. Be spoonfed by a dominant midfield & kick us some goals.

 

[salim malik]

Heard that as well and the guy is a jackass.

Downplayed Shane's efforts in 2015 by saying he was spoon fed from a dominant midfield and didn't train hard. I look forward to Shane showing him up for complete toss bag.

If he managed to play like that without training imagine what he will be like after a pre season at Freo.
Hackdork will say and do anything to lay shit on Freo.

 

[free at last]

If they would have given up McCarthy for pick 22 and pick 38 we'd be doing cartwheels. It was well beyond that. Tucker, next years 1st rounder and a current player = no thanks.

I agree.McCarthy will have only one year to go at the end of 2016,so you'd think GWS's bargaining power will have lessened from this year.

 

[Mr Peabody]

Hopefully the young fellas (Weller, Blakely, Grey, Langdon etc.) get more opportunity over the same ol' types like Suban, Mzungu, MDB etc. next year as Ross should surely know now that they aren't good enough to get the job done at the pointy end of the season. Interesting times ahead for the selection panel. Very promising future, especially if we add McCarthy next offseason.

I would rate the last couple of years as an 'A' if purely based on the credentials of the young recruits we have landed as assessed by those analysts that have watched these kids playing their underage footy.
But I reduce it to a 'B' given we have failed to snare the KP's we have desired via free agency or trading. I have no inside knowledge but I would guess the model had us depending on picking up a couple of KP's and the reach for mature age picks is now the fall back.

As a consequence, it most definitely is interesting times for RTB and his coaching panel, because they must now throw some caution to the wind and get games and development into the recruits while not undermining our ability to contend. The critics would argue that this goes against his natural instincts so the coach is perhaps in line for some personal development too.

Given where our list is at (and particularly how we've been unable to pull neither a key defender nor a key forward via free agency and trading in the last 2 years), we'll need a few of these raw youngsters and/or mature age picks to step up beyond their years and experience into key roles to improve our chances for short term glory. Otherwise, we're falling back on the likes of Deboer, Clancee and Mayne who have proven to be role warriors following instructions to the tee, but the sum of such bit players means the whole team is far too risk averse.

These guys are not game breakers, they don't have the killer instinct and with them we are unable to put our feet on the throats of our opponents. We really want more skill, confidence and even cockiness in the way we play so teams fear us. The thing the warriors have over the recruits is experience, knowledge of the game plan and hardness so it's not an easy thing taking a risk on the recruits but for mine, we have no choice in the short term if we want to challenge and therefore we need to take it. If nothing else, we'll certainly be better for it by the time these youngsters reach 50-100 games and are crumbling to McCarthy and Hogan (assuming we finally get pay dirt on the trading front in the next couple of years).

 

[Patty_Moz]

What I liked:
Bennell - probably the 2nd best player traded and at a bargain price, some risk involved but totally worth the risk and could pay big dividends
Strengthened our KPD depth with Collins and Uebergang which we needed to hopefully at least one can turn into a jet
Generally happy with who we drafted they could be good, could be useless, time will tell I always enjoy getting new draftees

What I'm not so sure about:
We need to kick about 4 more goals a game to match it with Hawthorn yet we drafted/traded 1 x fwd, 1 x mid/fwd and 5 x defenders don't think we addressed this
We have next to no KPF's and we didn't draft one it seems like the list management model just isn't prepared to risk drafting them - only interested in KPF's from other clubs

What I'd like to see:
More pressure on players not performing. Since Lyon took control there doesn't seem to be any pressure on the guys that who are considered best 22-26. The only changes have been forced due to drug infringements and injuries to KPD's and they were arguable the best changes that have been made. Not saying kids at all costs but there definitely should be some more pressure on players who can't get enough of the ball, can't dispose of correctly and aren't kicking enough goals.