Oppo Camp Regular Non Eagles Discussion

[TY24]

Watch Gold Coast trade that entire rescue package for someone completely bog average like Josh Bruce

 

[FKASC]

As anti-Richmond as I am, I have great amount of respect for Daniel Rioli. I've seen about four seperate dedications to Willie from him from grand final day.

Makes you worry that Willie must be really struggling

 

[WCErevival]

Watch Gold Coast trade that entire rescue package for someone completely bog average like Josh Bruce

Pick 2 for Ah Chee. Get it done

 

[Keys]

AFL continue to think draft picks/access to players is some sort of panacea for a struggling club when all historical evidence is that high draft picks in isolation don’t work

Clubs that succeed do so because they are well run off field. Richmond were a basket case for decades but finally got their back office right when they poached Neil Balme from Collingwood at the end of 2016. They’re now a powerhouse

Gold Coast are a rabble despite great access to high draft picks. Giving them more without addressing their management issues won’t change anything

 

[KERRPOW]

Makes you worry that Willie must be really struggling

Only has himself to blame

 

[FKASC]

Only has himself to blame

Sure. Doesn’t make it any less concerning though.

 

[KERRPOW]

Sure. Doesn’t make it any less concerning though.

Ah well. He just has to do the time and hope he gets an opportunity for redemption.

 

[Monocle]

AFL continue to think draft picks/access to players is some sort of panacea for a struggling club when all historical evidence is that high draft picks in isolation don’t work

Clubs that succeed do so because they are well run off field. Richmond were a basket case for decades but finally got their back office right when they poached Neil Balme from Collingwood at the end of 2016. They’re now a powerhouse

Gold Coast are a rabble despite great access to high draft picks. Giving them more without addressing their management issues won’t change anything

And thats the crux of the matter.

AFL have gone over the top handing out draft picks whereas they should have given GC some additional $$$$$$ allowance to keep players and entice better mature payers to join the Club.

All the additional early picks is good for is getting talent in and then see it poached by contending Clubs : Case in point Richmond had Caddy, Prestia and Lynch all of who were early picked players that the Suns were unable to retain.

Also the total free access to the NT without a bidding system is a MASSIVE gift from the AFL.

 

[Balls In]

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Gold Coasts rescue package from the commission

That is a joke. Literally dragging the league down to prop up this mistake. Fold it or move it for christ sake.

 

[Balls In]

Access to the Darwin zone for the next 3 years is huge.
AFL has purposefully left that zone unallocated as it is rich with Indigenous/multicultural talent and it wouldn't be fair to allocate to a club.

Its an absolute disgrace. One day the AFL will rue taking for granted its traditional supporters.

 

[West Coast 06]

That is a joke. Literally dragging the league down to prop us this mistake. Fold it or move it for christ sake.

Maybe it’s the first step towards NT Suns?

 

[Numero Uno]

Just more high draft picks to eventually end up at Victorian clubs

the richmond model is exactly what the VFL wants

 

[Balls In]

Just more high draft picks to eventually end up at Victorian clubs

the richmond model is exactly what the VFL wants

Yep that is 100% what is going to happen.

 

[Dugg]

AFL have gone over the top handing out draft picks whereas they should have given GC some additional $$$$$$ allowance to keep players and entice better mature payers to join the Club.

I'm sure that this would have been considered as option 1, however with Gold Coast only having two decent picks in 1 & 15 it wouldn't have made any difference this year. One or both of these picks would have had to be used to bring mature players in, so that explains why the AFL has decided to provide them both a 1st & 2nd rounder this year to use instead.

 

[Monocle]

I'm sure that this would have been considered as option 1, however with Gold Coast only having two decent picks in 1 & 15 it wouldn't have made any difference this year. One or both of these picks would have had to be used to bring mature players in, so that explains why the AFL has decided to provide them both a 1st & 2nd rounder this year to use instead.

Be that as it may, however the draft picks are a token gesture, that helps the quality of their list in the here and now .

The AFL still haven't addressed the root of GC's problems and thats :

1. Player retention.
2. Attracting QUALITY mature players to join the Club.
( The only mature player they have attracted to date are other Clubs cast off's and fringe players.)

The AFL have only addressed one part of the equation and thats getting young talent into the Club via the Draft ........ how the CG then retains these good players has seemingly been neglected.

It's a half baked cake.

 

[Max zero]

Be that as it may, however the draft picks are a token gesture, that helps the quality of their list in the here and now .

The AFL still haven't addressed the root of GC's problem and thats :

1. Player retention.
2. Attracting QUALITY mature players to join the Club. The only mature player they have attracted to date are other Clubs cast off's and fringe players.

The AFL have only addressed one part of the equation and thats getting young talent into the Club via the Draft ........ how the CG then retains these good players has seemingly been neglected.

Its a half baked cake.

They have addressed player retention. They have followed the GWS route where they give them access to so many quality players so that even if some leave (Shiel, Treloar, McCarthy, etc) there is so much quality on the list that make GFs anyway.

 

[Monocle]

They have addressed player retention. They have followed the GWS route where they give them access to so many quality players so that even if some leave (Shiel, Treloar, McCarthy, etc) there is so much quality on the list that make GFs anyway.

Odd that you choose to demonstrate that they have addressed player retention using the GWS model, by then listing players that have left.

Non Sequitur.

 

[Biggie]

High Greenwood heading to Gold Coast

Anyone checked in on HoneyBadger35 ?

 

[Max zero]

Odd that you choose to demonstrate that they have addressed player retention using the GWS model, by then listing players that have left.

Non Sequitur.

The point was GWS go access to so much talent they could handle players leaving. That's what the AFL is now trying with GC.

There is no fixing the retention problem in the short term. Only success and culture can do that and that takes time.

So the AFL is going to shotgun approach hoping enough players stick so GC work out.

 

[ziad]

The point was GWS go access to so much talent they could handle players leaving. That's what the AFL is now trying with GC.

There is no fixing the retention problem in the short term. Only success and culture can do that and that takes time.

So the AFL is going to shotgun approach hoping enough players stick so GC work out.

The simple solution is to force teams taking FA's to pay with picks

 

[Quinz]

High Greenwood heading to Gold Coast

Anyone checked in on HoneyBadger35 ?

CEY and Greenwood leaving Adelaide and neither coming here. Dark Sharks and Badge will be inconsolable.

 

[Goroyals22]

Fantastic start by Longmuir at his press conference by starting to say passionate is what springs to mind when he thinks about We.... fremantle supporters.


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[ioppolo]

Is the Greenwood deal confirmed?

 

[WCErevival]

Is the Greenwood deal confirmed?

Its from trade radio so probably not even happening

 

[squashface]

Adelaide exodus is true then.

Keath, CEY, Greenwood and maybe Betts as a start