AFL Toast RND 21: Defeated The Dogs

[Lore]

They reckon it was an ACL for Bruce..

 

[Old Campaigner]

 

[eth-dog]

That would be terrible. I thought he was in the box seat for the 3rd spot in the AA forward line.

 

[FlyingV]

Terrible for Bruce, I dunno I reckon you can tell who the nice guys are in the comp by the way opposing player treat them. He seems like one of the nice guys. Poor lad.

 

[Harlequin]

That’s disappointing for both Bruce and Doggies faithful.
Here’s hoping it’s not as bad as first thought

 

[FlyingV]

They tried to bully us in the first quarter, it looked boarder line arrogant. So happy we stuck with it and our brand of footy stood up. Massive tick for Rutten given our previous blowups against WB

 

[fairbump_playon]

I said to my kid at the time that it was a shame for Clarke as he is probably playing for his career. Should have went back and had a crack.

The funny thing is Clarke is a good kick at goal and had that distance covered

 

[windyhill]

They tried to bully us in the first quarter, it looked boarder line arrogant. So happy we stuck with it and our brand of footy stood up. Massive tick for Rutten given our previous blowups against WB

You’re spot on, definitely had that, it’s just going to happen look. Win of the year ( so far)

 

[fairbump_playon]

Was a terrific win, but let's face it, you aren't going to win too many games with 39-60 inside 50s. And they missed some absolute sitters.

I think the encouraging thing is that we can play much better than that. We stuffed a bunch of things up especially going into our forward 50, we have quality players to come back, we are getting games into kids, we need to tackle better than what we did and have massive defensive upside in Reid to come in due course. And perhaps most significantly, Rutten seems to know what he is doing and the players believe in him.

Our pressure around the ball was actually effective for the first time in weeks. The intent to press and keep working saved us from those missed tackles.

Just on the missed tackles.. at times we have conversations about how you don’t need to be big to be an inside bull. It’s true at an individual level. But the dogs collectively are massive and they can simply bully teams. We couldn’t tackle them and had to work very hard to break even in other ways - and probably still didn’t (eg the i50 differential).

In the end goal kicking accuracy was the decider. It feels so weird to be the more accurate team after years of McKernan, Daniher and just general rubbish execution. Still, good kicking is good footy. I’ll take it!

 

[Phone]

It can be dead simple: you either blow the whistle to stop play or call advantage to let it continue, but never both. The current system is the worst possible version.

I think one part of the issue is so many free-kicks are decided in "neutral" circumstances when possession is being contested (ie marking contests). this means it's usually impossible to assume which direction in the free-kick is going in. this then means that, for the attacking team, they can cheat and just assume the free-kick is theirs and take advantage and kick a goal, and if it is the umpire will pay advantage and if it isn't, well it never gets paid as 50meters the other way. I would be strongly in favour of investigating whether simply not allowing advantage in these neutral circumstances would be a good thing. On a slightly related note, I would be so in favour of stopping umpires making the player who has won the free-kick take the free-kick. I'm so sick of ruckman getting a free, not knowing they've got it, and have already ran 30 meters and get called back...just to hand-ball it 2 feet.

Anyway, the neutral circumstance thing is why we can never it as nice as Rugby's imo.

 

[citizen-erased]

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watch the AFL rub him out for a week for that, cos Essendon.
High, medium impact, intentional

 

[Hird05]

Riveting chat about the rules. Possibly better than the game even. Christ, what a snooze fest. Let it go.

Massive growth from that game for guys including Francis, Cutler, Clarke and obviously 2MP. Though Gleeson was serviceable too. These guys getting better makes us a lot better. 2MP, Francis and Jones will definitely get us through next year.

Not sure what the hell is going on with Tippa but it's hard to watch. That 50 was terrible. Perkins has to replace either Smith or him they are both currently liabilitys.

Geeze we monstered them out of the middle and stoppages. Thought the big boy was brilliant.

Finals pretty irrelevant now. They would have great belief and we will now be a destination club. Just need depth.

 

[citizen-erased]

It can be dead simple: you either blow the whistle to stop play or call advantage to let it continue, but never both. The current system is the worst possible version.

i don't get why the AFL haven't done this

 

[Beerfish]

Well done to the Dons players that stuck around with Bruce to make sure he was ok. sh*t situation for us but it was a nice touch to see that.

That would be Jake Stringer.

 

[Megabattimus]

Riveting chat about the rules. Possibly better than the game even. Christ, what a snooze fest. Let it go.

Massive growth from that game for guys including Francis, Cutler, Clarke and obviously 2MP. Though Gleeson was serviceable too. These guys getting better makes us a lot better. 2MP, Francis and Jones will definitely get us through next year.

Not sure what the hell is going on with Tippa but it's hard to watch. That 50 was terrible. Perkins has to replace either Smith or him they are both currently liabilitys.

Geeze we monstered them out of the middle and stoppages. Thought the big boy was brilliant.

Finals pretty irrelevant now. They would have great belief and we will now be a destination club. Just need depth.

Walla's definitely playing hurt. Don't think we'll find out what's wrong with him until the offseason, which I think is when we found out that Zaharakis was playing with a PCL injury last season?

Hopefully the pre-finals bye (if we do end up making the eight) will give him a chance to freshen up.

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[andon]

Congrats Bombers today, great to see Peter Wright kick 7.

Draper is amazing.

Future looks bright fo this young team.

 

[boncer34]

Fascinating how the same game is seen differently.

I listened to the game on MMM. Last quarter Tippa took a mark, held it up and hit a slow kick inside 50. Malthouse and Ling on MMM were critical of Tippa holding the pill to long and our forwards not leading up.

Channel 7 commentary on the other hand on the same play was complimentary of Tippa holding it up, allowing our forwards to get back and spread.

 

[srobbo]

Was hoping that Wright kicked that last one to match Carlisle from the last time we beat the Dogs

You mean Crameri?

 

[eth-dog]

Hey guys, pending tomorrow's game we currently have the most efficient forward line in the AFL. Hoping Melbourne's defence take West Coast to the cleaners

 

[Kyptastic]

You mean Crameri?

 

[eth-dog]

Fascinating how the same game is seen differently.

I listened to the game on MMM. Last quarter Tippa took a mark, held it up and hit a slow kick inside 50. Malthouse and Ling on MMM were critical of Tippa holding the pill to long and our forwards not leading up.

Channel 7 commentary on the other hand on the same play was complimentary of Tippa holding it up, allowing our forwards to get back and spread.

Malthouse and Ling are ABC

 

[DallasCrane316]

That would be Jake Stringer.

Not just Stringer. 4-5 of our players got around Bruce. Class.

 

[sameolds33]

That would be Jake Stringer.

and Redman

 

[srobbo]

**** that’s right he did too!

 

[Summer Nights]

Yes that is the rule.

It is why I said interpretation. Not rule/law, we covered this already.

Thats arrogant dude when you know we are debating it. We didn’t cover that precise part of the rules that gives a strong clue about the “interpretation”.

Can you point to anything outside the written rule that supports the so-called interpretation you believe exists? Like a specific piece of collateral?

The evidence is in favour of the rule being a no-prior situation only. I’ve not seen anything that supports it being applicable to instances where there’s prior. Any commentary, article, video etc from the AFL would be helpful.