Rolling World Cup squad thread

[Woody15]

I think Behrendorff was sick which meant Cummins had to stay.

 

[Patron]

Warner
Finch (C)
Khawaja
Smith
Maxwell
Stoinis
Carey
J Richardson
Cummins
Starc
Zampa
************
Hazelwood
Handscomb
Pattinson
Wade

Assuming the bowlers are all fit and ready.


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[Sproj]

I imagine Behrendorff is a lock given Starc is coming back from a long injury lay off. Important to have the left-armer in the line up.

 

[Cleavy]

I'd have Behrendorff in front of Hazelwood if I had to choose between the 2 of them for the last spot.

 

[BlueandGoldforever]

Warner
Finch (C)
Khawaja
Smith
Maxwell
Stoinis
Carey
J Richardson
Cummins
Starc
Zampa
************
Hazelwood
Handscomb
Pattinson
Wade

Assuming the bowlers are all fit and ready.


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That is one of the worst World Cup squads I have seen on this forum.

No Shaun Marsh, no Coulter-Nile, two wicketkeepers and a part-time wicketkeeper, no Lyon and three bowlers struggling for fitness.

 

[Toe Poke]

That is one of the worst World Cup squads I have seen on this forum.

No Shaun Marsh, no Coulter-Nile, two wicketkeepers and a part-time wicketkeeper, no Lyon and three bowlers struggling for fitness.

I don't think the 2-3 wicketkeepers comment is particularly relevant - it should be obvious that Handscomb and Wade are in that squad for their batting. The fact they can keep wicket is just a bonus.

 

[Toe Poke]

Now that the Pakistan series is over:

The squad I would select
Finch, Khawaja, Warner, Smith, Maxwell, Handscomb, M Marsh
Cummins, Starc, Jhye Richardson, Zampa
*****
S Marsh, Turner, Hazlewood, Lyon

Missed out:
Stoinis, Carey, Coulter-Nile, Behrendorff, Kane Richardson

The squad I think the selectors will choose:
Finch
Khawaja
S Marsh
Handscomb
Maxwell
Stoinis
Carey
Warner
Smith
Cummins
Starc
J Richardson
Zampa
Hazlewood
Lyon

 

[Hamingja]

Now that the Pakistan series is over:

The squad I would select
Finch, Khawaja, Warner, Smith, Maxwell, Handscomb, M Marsh
Cummins, Starc, Jhye Richardson, Zampa
*****
S Marsh, Turner, Hazlewood, Lyon

Missed out:
Stoinis, Carey, Coulter-Nile, Behrendorff, Kane Richardson

The squad I think the selectors will choose:
Finch
Khawaja
S Marsh
Handscomb
Maxwell
Stoinis
Carey
Warner
Smith
Cummins
Starc
J Richardson
Zampa
Hazlewood
Lyon

We always select fast bowler heavy squads. They are not going to pick only 4 quicks when 3 of them are injured.

 

[BlueandGoldforever]

I think the squad will be:

First XI

Khawaja
Finch (c)
S.Marsh
Smith
Maxwell
Stonis
Carey
Cummins
Starc
Lyon
Zampa

Next four
Warner
Hazelwood/J Richardson/Behrendorff (Only one of these three)
Coulter-Nile
M.Marsh

I am picking a surprise in Mitch Marsh because I am not convinced Stonis will last the whole tournament and we need a back-up allrounder.

 

[swingdog]

I'm sorry, has everyone suffered a collective memory wipe re: Mitch Marsh?

 

[Yoda_]

1.Warner
2. Finch
3. Khawaja
4. Smith
5. Maxwell
6. Stoinis
7. Carey
8. Cummins
9. Starc
10. Coulter - Nile
11. Zampa

12. S.Marsh
13. Handscomb
14. Jhye Richardson
15. Turner/M.Marsh

 

[BlueandGoldforever]

I'm sorry, has everyone suffered a collective memory wipe re: Mitch Marsh?

Mitch Marsh averages 35.7 with the bat for Australia in one-day cricket. That is pretty good considering he bats lower down in the order. His bowling average is 35.5 and he has taken 44 wickets from 53 matches conceding 5.52 runs per over.

Stonis averages 38.5 with the bat and 46.2 with the ball. He has taken 26 wickets from 34 matches and concedes 6.14 runs per over.

There isn't a lot of difference and frankly Marsh is a better bowler and is capable of rotating the strike.

 

[S M Andrikidis]

- Finch and Khawaja should remain opening pair. Warner should be fine at no.3.
- Tempted to pick Handscomb as the keeper/batsman over Carey. I've gone with Carey but wouldn't be disappointed if Handscomb took the gloves.
- Tempted to pick Turner over Stoinis. I can't forget Turner's innings in India where he smashed 84 off 42 balls. Stoinis offers a better bowling option though and possibly just edges Turner.

Khawaja
Finch
Warner
Smith
Maxwell
Stoinis
Carey
Cummins
Starc
Coulter Nile
Zampa

Turner
Handscomb
J Richardson
Lyon

 

[Dan12]

Finch
Warner
Khawaja
Smith
Maxwell
Wade
Cummins
Pattinson
Starc
J. Richardson
Zampa

S. Marsh, Coulter-Nile (or one of about six bowlers), Turner, Faulkner

Would rather go with 5 genuine bowlers instead of an all rounder like Stoinis or M. Marsh. It's worse for team balance but those are the bowlers I think can be genuinely damaging whereas I'm not confident any all rounders we have would actually do much. And Cummins, Pattinson and Starc can actually swing a bat too and Richardson and Zampa aren't mugs. Faulkner and NCN can bat too. Faulkner in the squad for his death bowling and the fact that he's a different sort of bowler to the others.
Big watch on Finch's ability to play a ball that swings, S. Marsh could easily come in. Turner there in case we need another finisher. Don't think Wade's form is a fluke.

Left out popular picks like M. Marsh, Stoinis, Handscomb, Behrendorff, Carey and Hazlewood because I don't know that they offer to much that the others don't already offer.

Lyon and K. Richardson unlucky.

 

[cricketnut14]

Finch
Warner
Khawaja
Smith
Maxwell
Wade
Cummins
Pattinson
Starc
J. Richardson
Zampa

S. Marsh, Coulter-Nile (or one of about six bowlers), Turner, Faulkner

Would rather go with 5 genuine bowlers instead of an all rounder like Stoinis or M. Marsh. It's worse for team balance but those are the bowlers I think can be genuinely damaging whereas I'm not confident any all rounders we have would actually do much. And Cummins, Pattinson and Starc can actually swing a bat too and Richardson and Zampa aren't mugs. Faulkner and NCN can bat too. Faulkner in the squad for his death bowling and the fact that he's a different sort of bowler to the others.
Big watch on Finch's ability to play a ball that swings, S. Marsh could easily come in. Turner there in case we need another finisher. Don't think Wade's form is a fluke.

Left out popular picks like M. Marsh, Stoinis, Handscomb, Behrendorff, Carey and Hazlewood because I don't know that they offer to much that the others don't already offer.

Lyon and K. Richardson unlucky.

WOW @ Faulkner , pattinson and wade.

the recent odi series in india and UAE have been a dress rehersal for the world cup.

the current squad of 15 are the incumbents.

I had 8 guys outside that squad that just played as a chance for the world cup before those odi's were played.
(smith, warner, starc, hazlewood, m.marsh, wade, short, agar).

with winning the last 8 odi's in a row or whatever , for me has left no real case for wade, short and agar to leapfrog anyone, especially if I'm including smith, warner, starc etc.

for me smith, warner and starc come straight back in and hazlewood and m.marsh a chance.

it's more of a case of now who comes out of the current 15 man squad.

my final squad:
finch, warner, khawaja, smarsh, smith, handscomb, stoinis, mmarsh, Maxwell, carey (with one of these to miss)
starc, cummins, hazlewood, jrichardson, coulter-nile, behrendorf, zampa, lyon (with two of these to miss).
OUT: turner, krichardson, wade, short, agar.

as you can see from all of our selected squads, the selectors have a few headaches this week.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Surely we can drop Stoinis...

He’s just not that good

 

[Hamingja]

Finch
Warner
Khawaja
S.Marsh
Smith
Handscomb

Maxwell
Stoinis

Carey

Cummins
NCN
Starc
Richardson/Hazelwood (whoever is fittest)
Beherendorff

Zampa

That would be my guess.

 

[eddiesmith]

Finch
Warner
Khawaja
S.Marsh
Smith
Handscomb

Maxwell
Stoinis

Carey

Cummins
NCN
Starc
Richardson/Hazelwood (whoever is fittest)
Beherendorff

Zampa

That would be my guess.

That looks about right, last spot will come down to Beherendorff or Lyon imo

 

[rippersnipper]

Given the issues with stoinis, I'm tempted to drop both him and Carey, give the gloves to handscomb and bring in an extra batsman, and Mitch Marsh.
Team would look something like:

Finch
Warner
Smith
S. Marsh
Maxwell
Handscomb (wk)
M. Marsh
Cummins
Starc
Richardson
Zampa

I'm not overly keen on this as I like having a proper keeper in the team, but I'm not sure that Carey makes enough at international level to negate the extra runs that handscomb might concede. We need a proper fifth bowling option and Mitch gives us that plus some extra power down the order. I've left out uzzie but you can easily (actually more so) make a case for him being in that team at 3 and taking Smith out. I just think Smith gives us more balance if he's anywhere near his best - and he can definitely move through the gears as the innings progresses. Needs to gain some confidence in the IPL before any of that can happen though

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Carey did get 50+ in game 4...he is doing his job fine.

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

Finch (c)
Warner
Khawaja
Smith
Maxwell
Stoinis
Handscomb (wk)
Cummins
Richardson
Zampa
Hazlewood

Starc
Carey
S Marsh
Coulter-Nile

I personally wouldn't take two wicket-keepers unless one of them was Wade (who, on form, doubles as a genuine batsman, as does Handscomb) but the selectors have made it obvious that he's not part of the international set-up, and equally that Handscomb and Carey are. Quicks pick themselves. S Marsh surely makes the trip given number of games he's played recently, selectors love him. Also, to be fair, he was probably our number one ODI batsman for a patch there.

Only point of contention for mine is Stoinis v Turner. Both have that destructive capacity you want to see at 6 - Stoinis more experience and can bowl so probably gets the nod though I do rate each one highly.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Finch (c)
Warner
Khawaja
Smith
Maxwell
Stoinis
Handscomb (wk)
Cummins
Richardson
Zampa
Hazlewood

Starc
Carey
S Marsh
Coulter-Nile

I personally wouldn't take two wicket-keepers unless one of them was Wade (who, on form, doubles as a genuine batsman, as does Handscomb) but the selectors have made it obvious that he's not part of the international set-up, and equally that Handscomb and Carey are. Quicks pick themselves. S Marsh surely makes the trip given number of games he's played recently, selectors love him. Also, to be fair, he was probably our number one ODI batsman for a patch there.

Only point of contention for mine is Stoinis v Turner. Both have that destructive capacity you want to see at 6 - Stoinis more experience and can bowl so probably gets the nod though I do rate each one highly.

Nuts if Starc isn't in your first side. He's easily ahead of Richardson. Unlike Richardson he can actually bowl a yorker.

If Handscomb is batting 7, you are better to play the better keeper, and that's Carey. Handscomb goes as a batsman anyway. Would double as a keeper if there is an injury to Carey only.

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

Nuts if Starc isn't in your first side. He's easily ahead of Richardson. Unlike Richardson he can actually bowl a yorker.

If Handscomb is batting 7, you are better to play the better keeper, and that's Carey. Handscomb goes as a batsman anyway. Would double as a keeper if there is an injury to Carey only.

Yeah since I posted I realised that you never really need 7 gun batsmen. Might as well play a specialist keeper there who can focus on pinch-hitting, rather than confusing Handscomb whose natural game is very different.

Personally I would never start an ODI without Starc but the selectors love Richardson and his form is great. Can easily see Starc missing out but that's not my preference. Would have him ahead of Hazlewood, actually.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Yeah since I posted I realised that you never really need 7 gun batsmen. Might as well play a specialist keeper there who can focus on pinch-hitting, rather than confusing Handscomb whose natural game is very different.

Personally I would never start an ODI without Starc but the selectors love Richardson and his form is great. Can easily see Starc missing out but that's not my preference.

The selectors only love Richardson because Starc isn't fit. He'd be in the side and would be the first or second bowler picked with Cummins.

Also not sure you need another workmanlike batsman in Handscomb. I could get it if they went for a genuine hitter who can keep, but we don't even have that unless you want to gamble on Josh Phillipe and that would be an almighty throw at the stumps. I'd personally just play Carey. 2 matches ago he helped set up the game making 50+

 

[Snarls Barkley]

Think the squad has virtually been picked. The top 7 from the Pak series plus Smith and Warner, the two spinners, Cummins and Starc, and then two of Hazlewood/Coulter-Nile/J.Richardson.