Rolling World Cup squad thread

[LukeParkerno1]

Really disappointed for Handscomb if true. His strike rate and ability to work the ball against spin in the middle overs has been very underrated imo. I know someone has to miss but sad to hear it is him.

Was always the likely one. He needed to have a good Pakistan series, he didn't. Plus Carey had a good series.

 

[Blue Dimension]

Tough to say he didn’t have a good series. His chances were limited.

Game 1 - 37* (20)
Game 2 - DNB
Game 3 - 47 (43) (strong strike rate on a slow pitch but yes would kick himself he didn’t go on with it. But third highest score in a win)
Game 4 - 7 (11) (his only failure)
Game 5 - out in the 49th over for 8, only facing 5 balls.

One failure there and one score where he didn’t kick on on a slow pitch, but batted very well and scored freely when pretty much everyone else except Maxwell struggled.

 

[Toe Poke]

The SMH article is here:
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/hazlewood-handscomb-set-to-miss-world-cup-20190414-p51dz9.html

Timestamp April 14, 2019 at 8.33pm

The article says that the (likely) squad is as follows:

Finch
Warner
Khawaja
Smith
S Marsh
Maxwell
Stoinis

Carey

Cummins
Starc
J Richardson
Coulter-Nile
Behrendorff
Lyon
Zampa

Most people in this thread (myself included) had squads of 6 bowlers + 1 keeper + 8 batsmen (with the likes of Stoinis, Maxwell and M Marsh labelled as batsmen)

However the squad from the article has 7 bowlers + 1 keeper + 7 batsmen (which includes Maxwell and Stoinis)

The article notes that the two "big" outs are Handscomb and Hazlewood.

Others that were not selected who played for Australia recently include Turner and K Richardson.
M Marsh and others who did not play in the India/Pakistan series also missed out.

And if Shane Warne is reading this post, D'arcy Short also missed out.

twitter . com /tommorris32/status/1117401134086230016

"Alex Carey will be the sole gloveman in Australia’s WC squad. But as part of Aus A tour, there will be 3: Paine, Wade & Handscomb. Any of this trio could be called up if Carey gets injured, unless it’s on the morning of a match... Then we’re rooted. A risk from selectors."

 

[BlueandGoldforever]

There is a squad named in The Daily Telegraph/Herald Sun but I don't subscribe to News Limited so if anyone could post it here that would be appreciated.

 

[frankrizzo]

The squad isnt that big a shock but it is surprising they are picking 7 bowlers but only one backup batsman, would have rather gone for handscomb over a 5th frontline quick.

 

[Ishikawa]

Cringed at Lyon being in, but the rest I am pleased with.

Unfortunate for Handscomb and Turner both of whom made close to compelling cases for selection in the last few games, but I do feel it's a good thing they've looked to reward consistency of form over a longer period of time.

 

[Torz]

There is a squad named in The Daily Telegraph/Herald Sun but I don't subscribe to News Limited so if anyone could post it here that would be appreciated.

They don’t actually name a squad in the HS article, despite the title.

They do say that it will be confirmed by 10 am AEST today though.

 

[BlueandGoldforever]

They don’t actually name a squad in the HS article, despite the title.

They do say that it will be confirmed by 10 am AEST today though.

Thanks. I shouldn't be surprised at a mis-leading headline from a tabloid newspaper.

 

[eth-dog]

I wouldn't have Richo. M Marsh or Handscomb instead.

 

[Nel_cats]

Well given that that handscomb is a straight swap out for smith, he better have a blinder of a tournament. I mean we are getting rid of an in form batsman for someone who just had surgery and hasn’t done anything too flashy in the IPL. In saying that Hopefully he comes good when it matters and we won’t regret the selection

 

[Richard Pryor]

Handscomb unlucky. Not super confident in Stoinis or Lyon but hopefully they lift for the WC

 

[eth-dog]

Handscomb unlucky. Not super confident in Stoinis or Lyon but hopefully they lift for the WC

Lyon's competition was Agar. 2 spinners were always going to go. Handscomb missed out by the brain dead decision to go with 5 quicks.

 

[Ron]

Would have preferred Handscomb or Turner to Stoinis.
I find with Stoinis he has has two modes, chug along in neutral or crank it up to 5th gear and go nuts. Nothing in-between which i reckon you need for a world cup.

 

[cricketnut14]

predictable squad with no real surprises.

only surprise for me was that its one bowler too many, i would've preferred a batsman/batting all rounder/batsman keeper.

that being said it looks as if maxwell, stoinis and carey are locked in @ 5, 6 & 7 for every match, with one reserve bat and three reserve bowlers.

 

[Nel_cats]

Yeah... why do we need 5 quicks? Is that how it’s always been? Given we have Zampa + Lyon I dunno. Maybe a reserve keeper or another bat

 

[Toe Poke]

Would have preferred Handscomb or Turner to Stoinis.
I find with Stoinis he has has two modes, chug along in neutral or crank it up to 5th gear and go nuts. Nothing in-between which i reckon you need for a world cup.

In that scenario, with Turner unable to bowl, Smith/Finch would be the 6th/7th bowlers. Not an ideal situation.

 

[Kram]

Lead boots unlucky was looking pretty good but at least we can finally have the end of this fantasy of him being wicketkeeper.

 

[corbies]

What has to be remembered in this thread is that if a member of the 15 is injured they can still be replaced. Its why we haven't picked a reserve keeper and only 1 reserve bat. The bowlers are more likely to get picked/dropped based on conditions whereas the batsman will really only come out of the side due to injury.

 

[JackOutback]

What has to be remembered in this thread is that if a member of the 15 is injured they can still be replaced. Its why we haven't picked a reserve keeper and only 1 reserve bat. The bowlers are more likely to get picked/dropped based on conditions whereas the batsman will really only come out of the side due to injury.

Good point; one of Khawaja or SMarsh is going to be unlucky to miss out; the team should be settled, but if one gets injured or loses form, the other is the obvious replacement. Any other bats would just be kicking their heels for a month.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

What has to be remembered in this thread is that if a member of the 15 is injured they can still be replaced. Its why we haven't picked a reserve keeper and only 1 reserve bat. The bowlers are more likely to get picked/dropped based on conditions whereas the batsman will really only come out of the side due to injury.

100% this

They named an extra bowler to a) let guys rest where required and b) pick to the conditions.

The addition of Lyon has allowed us to play 2 spinners where required and adding Dorf/NCN lets us rotate quicks against the lesser nations to keep the main guys fresh.

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

Yeah... why do we need 5 quicks? Is that how it’s always been? Given we have Zampa + Lyon I dunno. Maybe a reserve keeper or another bat

Aren't both Starc and J Richardson under an injury cloud? The extra quick might be needed in that case, and its unlikely two front-line spinners will play. They will for most teams, but Australia doesn't have the quality.

 

[Hamingja]

We need the extra quicks because they are either coming back from injury or to a man are 5 minutes away from getting injured again.

We always pick fast bowler heavy squads. That is not a surprise.

Only difference from my squad was Handscomb out for Lyon. A lot of faith in Smith being right and he hasn't seemed to have done a lot in the IPL last time I checked. Plus Handscomb could have covered Carey as well.

I guess we have been seduced by other teams going spin heavy so have taken Lyon instead but I just don't think it is our go. We won the last WC with Maxwell as the spinner. Zampa plus Maxwell more than sufficient for mine.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Tough to say he didn’t have a good series. His chances were limited.

Game 1 - 37* (20)
Game 2 - DNB
Game 3 - 47 (43) (strong strike rate on a slow pitch but yes would kick himself he didn’t go on with it. But third highest score in a win)
Game 4 - 7 (11) (his only failure)
Game 5 - out in the 49th over for 8, only facing 5 balls.

One failure there and one score where he didn’t kick on on a slow pitch, but batted very well and scored freely when pretty much everyone else except Maxwell struggled.

I get that but when you are borderline at best, he needed a big score in games 3 and 4. He didn't. I feel they have made the right call especially as the WC is in England. SMarsh has a phenomenal record in England in ODI cricket.

 

[eddiesmith]

If they actually intend on playing Lyon, then they'll have 3 quicks on the sidelines which seems a little overkill

I can see the point of 5 quicks if they are picking the 1 spinner, especially given they are guaranteed 9 games, there will be rotations.

Lyons spot is a bit of a waste, he has got into the squad bowling ok but not threatening on sub continent pitches

The weakness I look at the squad is there is cover for the top 3, cover for the bowlers but no cover for batsmen 4-7.

Finch, Warner, Khawaja, Smith, Marsh is a very unbalanced top 5 if Maxwell, Stoinis or Carey get injured on the day of a game. Even if its before a game, they cant just replace them if its only going to be for 1-2 games

 

[LukeParkerno1]

If they actually intend on playing Lyon, then they'll have 3 quicks on the sidelines which seems a little overkill

I can see the point of 5 quicks if they are picking the 1 spinner, especially given they are guaranteed 9 games, there will be rotations.

Lyons spot is a bit of a waste, he has got into the squad bowling ok but not threatening on sub continent pitches

The weakness I look at the squad is there is cover for the top 3, cover for the bowlers but no cover for batsmen 4-7.

Finch, Warner, Khawaja, Smith, Marsh is a very unbalanced top 5 if Maxwell, Stoinis or Carey get injured on the day of a game. Even if its before a game, they cant just replace them if its only going to be for 1-2 games

Lyon will only play in certain conditions, but it's handy to at least have the option.

Finch keeping if Carey is injured for a game or two would be funny though.