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Prediction Round 16, 2025: Changes vs Collingwood

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Turf out like 6 players... Have to make a statement...

In... Champion, Shanahan, gross, Grego, Johnston, chesser, reid

Out... Ryan, Duggan, hunt, Allen, Flynn, Kelly, Dewar

You’ve actually turfed out several players.
 
I'd play Owies because of the pressure he applies , Carlton walked the ball out of our forward line ( not in forward line in 1st qrt .)

In - Owies , Shanahan , Johnson , Bazzo .

Out - Edwards ( injury ) , Allen ( injury) Hunt , Flynn .
Add Duggan to the outs. He diddn't even bother to chase a ball to the boundary line when there wasn't an opponent anywhere near him. What sort of an example is that to the young players in the team who are crying out for leadership and they aren't getting any of that from Duggan and Oscar.
Time to sack the co captains and appoint Baker with Harley as vice captain.
 

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With Allen and Edwards going out it's possible we now have the worst everything in the league.

Our spine - when fit - is Allen and Waterman at one end, McGovern and Edwards at the other. 2 AAs with one at the end of his career, not the best not the worst. This week it will be Jack Williams and maybe Archer Reid at one end and Sandy Brock and Bazzo or Shanahan at the other.

It's discussed often that our ruck division is the worst going around. Doesn't really matter who we pick or in what combination it still sucks. And our midfield is poor, especially with Yeo not playing all year.

Who has a worse forward 6, midfield or back 6 than WC?
Fair enough, but not much we can do about it. A first term coach trying to implement a new game plan with a side comprising of younger (relatively) inexperienced players and senior leftovers (apart from a few) is hard enough; but then has injuries to 4 top KP players, the cream of his team - is now a really tough gig to try and be competitive without the wheels falling off.

Seems we just have to struggle through to the bitter end and completely regroup for the better at season's end - hopefully seeing some improvement and growth along the way.
 
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Add Duggan to the outs. He diddn't even bother to chase a ball to the boundary line when there wasn't an opponent anywhere near him. What sort of an example is that to the young players in the team who are crying out for leadership and they aren't getting any of that from Duggan and Oscar.
Time to sack the co captains and appoint Baker with Harley as vice captain.
I was watching it on Fox. The commentators had a crack at him. Someone said, "mini is try to work out the midfield mix, maybe they should put Duggan in there", to which another commentator responded with, "They started him in the middle and he's part of the problem". I did a Roscoe P Coltrane laugh. They're onto him. It's not just us.
 
Turf out like 6 players... Have to make a statement...

In... Champion, Shanahan, gross, Grego, Johnston, chesser, reid

Out... Ryan, Duggan, hunt, Allen, Flynn, Kelly, Dewar

We cannot be worse with these changes... Which is an indictment on the club
That's just ridiculous. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Most of those suggested 'ins' aren't yet up to AFL standard or have AFL experience, and to face them off against the Pies is just setting up a slaughter.
'We cannot be worse'...yes we can, and it's been proven before.
 
Turf out like 6 players... Have to make a statement...

In... Champion, Shanahan, gross, Grego, Johnston, chesser, reid

Out... Ryan, Duggan, hunt, Allen, Flynn, Kelly, Dewar

We cannot be worse with these changes... Which is an indictment on the club
Of alllllllll the rubbish takes, this really is something else
 
I thought MIni's answer in the post game presser when asked if he gave them a bake at quarter time was spot on- basically he said it's easy to do that but when they are getting beaten his job isn't to rant, its to identify what players should be doing differently to turn the situation around and communicate that to them.

If the solution to a team getting beaten was just to lose your shit and yell at players then all it would take to be a successful head coach would be anger management issues. And if the answer to our underperforming seniors was in our WAFL team, our WAFL team probably wouldn't also be getting their butt kicked on a weekly basis.

The more I see of him the more I think McQualter is a very talented coach who is doing a pretty good job in challenging circumstances. There will come a time for ruthless decisions at the end of the year but right now he's got to work with what hes got in front of him and balance playing kids with ensuring sufficient stability to build a consistent gameplan. Starting with a bottom 4 list and then drawing a line through Yeo/Gov/Waterman for most of the year is a pretty rough assignment for a new coach.
 
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Fair enough, but not much we can do about it. A first term coach trying to implement a new game plan with a side comprising of younger (relatively) inexperienced players and senior leftovers (apart from a few) is hard enough; but then has injuries to 4 top KP players, the cream of his team - is now a really tough gig to try and be competitive without the wheels falling off.

Seems we just have to struggle through to the bitter end and completely regroup for the better at season's end - hopefully seeing some improvement and growth along the way.

I just hope we don't deteriorate back to losing by 100 every other week.

There have been some promising signs but we're just so light on for talent and experience currently.

If it's as simple as Allen and Edwards out, Archer Reid and Bazzo in we'll start next week with 1644 games of total experience which is 337 fewer than the next least experienced (GWS) this week). And that's after Cripps came back in vs North after missing a couple of games, and before Hunt or Kelly or Duggan get sacrificed at the altar.
 
Add Duggan to the outs. He diddn't even bother to chase a ball to the boundary line when there wasn't an opponent anywhere near him. What sort of an example is that to the young players in the team who are crying out for leadership and they aren't getting any of that from Duggan and Oscar.
Time to sack the co captains and appoint Baker with Harley as vice captain.

Baker has been great but he aint it as captain. He's a few carrots short of a Sumich in the ol sophistication stakes and the members will riot once the penny drops. Jack Graham ticks all the boxes out of the 2 Richmond boys but the appointment needs to be made at the end of next pre-season and by that time it should be Waterman's to lose, with Hough and Graham as vice.
 

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I just hope we don't deteriorate back to losing by 100 every other week.

There have been some promising signs but we're just so light on for talent and experience currently.

If it's as simple as Allen and Edwards out, Archer Reid and Bazzo in we'll start next week with 1644 games of total experience which is 337 fewer than the next least experienced (GWS) this week). And that's after Cripps came back in vs North after missing a couple of games, and before Hunt or Kelly or Duggan get sacrificed at the altar.

This is one of the reasons I'm feeling a bit better about where things are headed.

If you take 10 goal losses as a good indicator of a highly uncompetitive effort, last year we had 8 losses of that magnitude and they were pretty much scattered across the whole year. I dont think we went a month without copping a battering like that.

And if you look at the teams we were putting on the park they honestly were a far stronger in terms of senior players- all bar one of those 8 smashings featured at least one of yeo/gov/waterman, and several had all three. Barrass was playing good football, Kelly's form hadn't disappeared into whatever the **** hole it is currently in, even with those guys out there, there were many weeks where there was just a total bundle drop.

So far this year with I'd venture to say generally weaker and less experienced sides than last year, we are 60% of the way through the season and have had four ten goal losses- but only one in the last 9 weeks..and I think even that doesn't really tell the full story because Mini has consistently continued to play aggressive football rather than switch to 'stem the bleeding' mode when the opposition runs over us. The way they played Geelong was effectively risking a 100 pt loss to try to take it up to a team which was totally on top of us.

It's still very much a work in progress but I think we are starting to see signs of a system that is more resilient and less reliant on the old guard to carry them. They're still struggling to play 4 quarters but they aren't completely dropping their bundles the way they did under simmo
 
That poster has form for posting seriously dumb shit.
Maybe if you get your hand off your knob (sorry mouse) in your bedroom... You would see that we are getting humiliated every week...

Yet the same shit players are doing the same shit things and getting games.

Good on Dewar for getting the rising star nom... But he along side Kelly and Flynn were quite possibly the worst players in the first half.

You and and floggy bigfooty mates(imaginary )are getting on my case for posting stuff... Grow the f..K up mate...
 
Turf out like 6 players... Have to make a statement...

In... Champion, Shanahan, gross, Grego, Johnston, chesser, reid

Out... Ryan, Duggan, hunt, Allen, Flynn, Kelly, Dewar

We cannot be worse with these changes... Which is an indictment on the club

What's the statement? If you start poorly, working back into the game and winning the last 2 quarters of footy is unacceptable? That's probably actually hilariously on brand for how we've been going.

I'm all for a few changes (GTFO TK) but this is baby out with the bathwater level.
 
Yes... Seven by my reckoning...

Dewar probably harsh.. but hey.. whatever
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That's just ridiculous. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Most of those suggested 'ins' aren't yet up to AFL standard or have AFL experience, and to face them off against the Pies is just setting up a slaughter.
'We cannot be worse'...yes we can, and it's been proven before.
Well most of the 'outs' are barely Playing at WAFL level so why not try and switch it up
 
Turf out like 6 players... Have to make a statement...

In... Champion, Shanahan, gross, Grego, Johnston, chesser, reid

Out... Ryan, Duggan, hunt, Allen, Flynn, Kelly, Dewar

We cannot be worse with these changes... Which is an indictment on the club
You want to drop a bloke for getting the rising star nomination?
 
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