Prediction Round Six Changes vs. West Coast

[Barnabus]

The youth bias in this discussion is crazy. A young player who does a couple of nice things but is mostly relatively poor is preferred to a consistent player who is amongst our best goal kickers across the last 5 years.

 

[ubiquitous226]

The youth bias in this discussion is crazy. A young player who does a couple of nice things but is mostly relatively poor is preferred to a consistent player who is amongst our best goal kickers across the last 5 years.

 

[estibador]

The youth bias in this discussion is crazy. A young player who does a couple of nice things but is mostly relatively poor is preferred to a consistent player who is amongst our best goal kickers across the last 5 years.

I agree with your general gist and I'd be bringing Freddie in once he's ready, but not sure I'd be calling him a consistent player.

High impact player sure, but consistency is probably his weak point. There's plenty of games where he's barely sighted. That and his lack of physicality are probably the two main reasons he's such a polarising figure amongst fans.

Looking at last year he had 6 games of single figure disposals. And if you draw the line one higher he had 10 games of 10 disposals or less.

In his good games he has a handy knack of kicking multiple goals, but he's a bit all or nothing. Last year he mostly kicked either zero or multiples.

 

[King Tenz]

I agree with your general gist and I'd be bringing Freddie in once he's ready, but not sure I'd be calling him a consistent player.

High impact player sure, but consistency is probably his weak point. There's plenty of games where he's barely sighted. That and his lack of physicality are probably the two main reasons he's such a polarising figure amongst fans.

Looking at last year he had 6 games of single figure disposals. And if you draw the line one higher he had 10 games of 10 disposals or less.

In his good games he has a handy knack of kicking multiple goals, but he's a bit all or nothing. Last year he mostly kicked either zero or multiples.

Yeah bro averages like 10 disposals and a goal a game, people acting like he’s Jason Akermanis or something

Always interesting how people have such strong favourites and don’t wanna look at the rest of our list some more

 

[Randomizor]

We need Young back, but need to ensure he’ll be fit for the long term. Serong and Brayshaw are great accumulators, but by god are they just bombing it aimless and long when they get it. Need someone to move it cleanly.

 

[Count Moriarty]

I believe that Freddy was 7th in Doig last year. Coaches obviously thought he was consistently doing a lot right.

 

[FreoRicci]

Yeah bro averages like 10 disposals and a goal a game, people acting like he’s Jason Akermanis or something

Always interesting how people have such strong favourites and don’t wanna look at the rest of our list some more

Frederick is an upgrade on Scerri though.

It should be between Switkowski and Scerri anyway. Not in the boat of having both in at the same time.

Been lucky with Dudley, Switta and Scerri. Small fleet sometimes can get found out.

 

[anchor man]

Frederick is an upgrade on Scerri though.

It should be between Switkowski and Scerri anyway. Not in the boat of having both in at the same time.

Been lucky with Dudley, Switta and Scerri. Small fleet sometimes can get found out.

Very harsh on Scerri. The kid has played four! games. Fredfy has played what! 5 years at Freo!. Get real.

 

[Barnabus]

Yeah bro averages like 10 disposals and a goal a game, people acting like he’s Jason Akermanis or something

Always interesting how people have such strong favourites and don’t wanna look at the rest of our list some more

What a stupid comment. No one is saying he is Akermanis. We are saying he is best 23 in a good team. As a point if he averages a goal a game that is more goals each game than Scerri has kicked in his career.

In terms of consistency in the last four years he has kicked 28, 23, 23 and 30 goals. That is fairly consistent. He kicks goals which is kinda the point in footy. We could roll out 23 defensive players who all tackle and are physical and watch as WC, Essendon, Richmond and Carlton all steamroll us if you like but I for one enjoy my team kicking goals and winning matches.

Scerri hasn't even played a WAFL game yet so has hardly earned his spot by the standards people are holding Freddy too. I like Scerri and hope he turns into a good player for us but he is not there now.

 

[ImperialPurple]

Some clear options in this thread we can rule in/out:
1. Ras staying in the team, the kid finds his confidence so let’s go ahead and pop the balloon and drop him? No chance.
2. Cox is coming in. Going to be electric in the derby you can just sense it. Not to mention the Texans American attitude, he will be pushing hard to take Darcy’s spot long term. This is his chance.
3. Freddy for Scerri without a second thought. Yes, new shiny toy has been pleasing to see perform, but the kid hasn’t kicked a goal as a forward for three weeks. Why do we long to keep out a player who kicks goals? Valuing pressure and effort over goals is what got us into the mess from 2016.
4. It’s between JOM and Wagner to go out for Young. Someone said it earlier but Worner does too much of the ‘team valued’ things to be considered out. It would take Worner not backing into a pack or not leaving his man to support to get him dropped. Not a miskick giving up a goal.
If I had to pick, it’s Wagner out. Both are serviceable, both can have their moments both good and bad, but one plays structure and role to a tee, is in the leadership group, and also can hold his own in a 1v1. Wagner gets beaten aerially every week even in times when he has the better position. Something that as a coach, would sway me.

All in all though, just screams we are running smooth so far this year if we are 4-1 and bringing Young and Freddy into the team

Quoting because you can’t like a post twice! I think it’ll be exactly this.
All the people calling for JOM to get dropped are dreaming.
Ras will stay in.
It’ll have to be Wagner (super unlucky) out for Young.
Switta won’t get dropped, so Scerri for Freddy is a no-brainer.

 

[ImperialPurple]

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There. I said it.

 

[Mags98]

I think he has potential and done alright but I've never seen so much wanking off on this board over a few handballs. I think people just love 'new' fringe players, until they aren't. Then turn against them.

i think its just people seeing that when his moments come he has been able to do good things, as a young player thats important. he also goes really ****ing hard when he needs to, its a good sign imo

hes playing in a tough position as well as usually the deepest small when all of dudley/switta/reid etc are pushed up to the ball a lot.

 

[King Tenz]

What a stupid comment. No one is saying he is Akermanis. We are saying he is best 23 in a good team. As a point if he averages a goal a game that is more goals each game than Scerri has kicked in his career.

In terms of consistency in the last four years he has kicked 28, 23, 23 and 30 goals. That is fairly consistent. He kicks goals which is kinda the point in footy. We could roll out 23 defensive players who all tackle and are physical and watch as WC, Essendon, Richmond and Carlton all steamroll us if you like but I for one enjoy my team kicking goals and winning matches.

Scerri hasn't even played a WAFL game yet so has hardly earned his spot by the standards people are holding Freddy too. I like Scerri and hope he turns into a good player for us but he is not there now.

What a stupid comment.

Keep playing the man.

My point is Frederick is not some game changer, not a hero, not an A grader that warrants automatic inclusion into the side.

10 disposals. 1 goal. That is his average across 100 games.

He can go down to Peel and earn his way in, what is the issue with this?

 

[hoss]

The comedy hour continues..
Voss plays one bad game, and, as Batman would say, KAPOW. gone.

To be fair, there's been much crazier and comical calls in this thread to drop certain players. Voss is one player who doesn't seem in great form.

 

[Mags98]

i think weve been fortunate with freddy out that dudley has been performing at the level he has. we have been relying on a (permanent) small forward brigade of a 20 gamer, a rookie and switta. two of these forwards dont kick goals! with reid and bolton playing a lot more time in the midfield, having a bonafide goal scorer is super important imo and thats exactly what freddy does for us.

on that note i gotta highlight how good dudley has been in replacing freddy, his kicking for goal is ****ing elite and has built his game up. seeing him in the back half getting involved and applying that pressure late on jamie elliot won us the game! big ups the wombat.

 

[DocT]

Very harsh on Scerri. The kid has played four! games. Fredfy has played what! 5 years at Freo!. Get real.

Harsh?? We're only talking about who would be better in the next game, not passing judgment on Scerri's career.

 

[freoextra]

What a stupid comment.

Keep playing the man.

My point is Frederick is not some game changer, not a hero, not an A grader that warrants automatic inclusion into the side.

10 disposals. 1 goal. That is his average across 100 games.

He can go down to Peel and earn his way in, what is the issue with this?

Just my observations from training, Young is ready he has done the extra week and is in full training, there is no reason not to pick him.

Freddy has come on quickly but has not done anywhere near as much rehab or training that Young has, yes he is an immediate upgrade on scerri but not sure we should bring back both this week.

Would prefer Young and Cox this week and introduce Freddy next week.

 

[Mags98]

on JOM i think hes been very poor ball in hand, constant hospital handballs to teammates in poor positions and the obvious shocking goal kicking. i think he can improve on that but from one of our most experienced players, its seriously disappointing.

 

[hoss]

Drop the 12-14 others that were just as bad. Yet they’re still in the team.

12 to 14 others as bad as Freddy in that game? Not sure what you were watching. The only possibilities were Jye (subbed) or Fyfe (sub) and even then Jye contributed a goal. But that's just two players. And I'm not saying Fred's not an upgrade currently on Scerri but he's not quite the savior either.

 

[Docker82]

The youth bias in this discussion is crazy. A young player who does a couple of nice things but is mostly relatively poor is preferred to a consistent player who is amongst our best goal kickers across the last 5 years.

The justification for it is the young player is young.

Whilst I don't think we've played the second best footy in the comp we're sitting second. Maybe we should try and keep winning?

Crazy idea I know.

There's no doubt whatsoever who the better player is right now.

 

[ubiquitous226]

What a stupid comment.

Keep playing the man.

My point is Frederick is not some game changer, not a hero, not an A grader that warrants automatic inclusion into the side.

10 disposals. 1 goal. That is his average across 100 games.

He can go down to Peel and earn his way in, what is the issue with this?

That's not playing the man, they called out your comment because it was a classic strawman.

People are not saying Freddie is incredible or an A grader.
People are not saying Scerri hasn't had some nice moments.

Simply in many of our opinions Freddie offers the team a lot more right now.
Select the team that helps us qualify for finals and get towards the best version at the pointy end.

 

[Barnabus]

What a stupid comment.

Keep playing the man.

My point is Frederick is not some game changer, not a hero, not an A grader that warrants automatic inclusion into the side.

10 disposals. 1 goal. That is his average across 100 games.

He can go down to Peel and earn his way in, what is the issue with this?

I didn't play the man I attacked your comment which was inaccurate and overblown. I made no comment about you as an individual. You taking offence at that kinda shows how weak your argument is.

The issue with him going to Peel while keeping Scerri in, is that you pick the best players not the worst. It is how competitive footy works. Frederick's average is better than Scerri's by a mile and he has only been out for 5 weeks so he should play.

 

[CakeEater]

I think Freddy should be made to earn his spot in the WAFL, wasnt like he earnt the walk up start off his last game.

 

[King Huskii]

I hate that Omera gets a gig automatically because he's in the leadership group. Ras and Wagner are playing better footy yet might get pushed to WAFL.

If so they may as well leave for another club. It'll cost us in the long run.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I do actually think Freddy will play a game at Peel to bring him up to speed, mainly because they'll be reticent to bring both him and Young.

There's basically no scenario bar injury hes not in for Scerri the following week though