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Not sure that Drummond offers us any more than Chris Johnson - I am over getting hacks from other clubs just for the sake of it and we have got plenty over the years. :rolleyes:

Unless someone can provide a compelling case for Drummond I am sceptical - I would rather put the dollars into our Football Department for a specialist kicking coach.
 
agro said:
Not sure that Drummond offers us any more than Chris Johnson - I am over getting hacks from other clubs just for the sake of it and we have got plenty over the years. :rolleyes:

Unless someone can provide a compelling case for Drummond I am sceptical - I would rather put the dollars into our Football Department for a specialist kicking coach.
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He's definitely no hack. Very talented player however resilient he ain't. Wouldn't part with more than a 3rd round pick which won't be enough to get the deal done.
 
If we can have this sort of delivery inside 50, It would make life much easier for the likes of hendo and waitey

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Drummond is a fantastic player but he is just too brittle I am afraid. If we could get him for a fairly low price sure, but what are the chances of that? Slim to none.
 

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He's definitely no hack. Very talented player however resilient he ain't. Wouldn't part with more than a 3rd round pick which won't be enough to get the deal done.
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Exactly, Drummond could be a handy player but he's no longer a superstar either. What is the obsession on here about recruiting players who are over 25?

Brennan, Drummond, Warnock's brother are worth no more than pick 50. There's just no reward in recruiting players whose time is nearly up. We have enough holes in our list that paying over the odds for a 2 year proposition isn't going to make a difference to our ladder position.

Brisbane, a finals side last year, tried that particular recruiting strategy and failed. :o
 
Azul said:
Exactly, Drummond could be a handy player but he's no longer a superstar either. What is the obsession on here about recruiting players who are over 25?

Brennan, Drummond, Warnock's brother are worth no more than pick 50. There's just no reward in recruiting players whose time is nearly up. We have enough holes in our list that paying over the odds for a 2 year proposition isn't going to make a difference to our ladder position.

Brisbane, a finals side last year, tried that particular recruiting strategy and failed. :o
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Every level of this post is wrong.
 
Josh Drummond is 27 years of age + injury prone. Are we willing to take that punt?
 
Drummond will be 28 next year ... has just come off LARS surgery ... and has never played more than 14 games in a season ... yet he is commanding $400-450,000 per year?

Pass.
 
Drummond's ten games are worth 20 of Armfields, AJs, C Johnsons etc.

If he came at a good price, nab him for sure. If he comes at a premium, just move on!

It is not about the games or age...it is about the price!
 
Agree with the Drummond too old & injury prone remarks. Pass.
Lets concentrate on recruiting KP ... please!
 
While I agree that the coaching panel is too much of an Old Carlton Boys club, Wiggins is a great player to teach work ethic and dedication to the upcoming youngsters. Move on Lappin and Bradley if the group is too tight-knit and won't take other coaching advice, but let us have Wiggo in a development role
 

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Why would you move on Bradley?

From the sound of it, Bradley is OK, but Lappin and Teague don't cut the mustard.

Get Woewodin and Goodwin who wants to coach.

It's time we looked to get new coaches using $$$$$$ and more picks via trading.

No more trading of our second round picks for players unless we can get a star.

No to Tarrant, Brennan and Drummond.
 
TheGeneral said:
Why would you move on Bradley?

From the sound of it, Bradley is OK, but Lappin and Teague don't cut the mustard.

Get Woewodin and Goodwin who wants to coach.

It's time we looked to get new coaches using $$$$$$ and more picks via trading.

No more trading of our second round picks for players unless we can get a star.

No to Tarrant, Brennan and Drummond.
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With our 2nd pick coming in the 30-35 range, our experts would need to make a judgement call on the quality of players around at that stage versus using that pick as part of trade for potential players.

It would seem likely Jacobs,Walker and Thornton are tradeable for the right offer, our 2nd pick may be bundled together with one of those to acquire a player that will make a difference/improvement to our team.
 
I like the idea of Salopek, another quality player into our midfield rotation. Sam Jacobs and a draft pick the other way would hopefully do it.

Not sold on Drummond, based on injury history and wages.

I can see us offering a token gesture for Quinten Lynch, I'd imagine he'll go to the Gold Coast for more money and playing time. Would be a decent back-up forward / ruckman especially with Kreuzer coming off a knee reco.

McKinley has something we need, but defensive pressure isn't one of those things. He'd need to be willing to work on his game.

I've got a feeling we're in for either / or Mundy or Pavlich, but I don't have anything to back that up.
 
TheGeneral said:
Why would you move on Bradley?

From the sound of it, Bradley is OK, but Lappin and Teague don't cut the mustard.

Get Woewodin and Goodwin who wants to coach.

It's time we looked to get new coaches using $$$$$$ and more picks via trading.

No more trading of our second round picks for players unless we can get a star.

No to Tarrant, Brennan and Drummond.
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I though Teague was coaching the Bullants?

I am unsure of what Bradley actually has responsibility for, Montgomery is our defensive coach, Riley our Midfield, Lappin our forward, Harvey is in development, so what does Bradley do?

Was a great player and this is not a knock on him personally, just questioning his position on the coaching panel as their isn't really a clear role he plays
 
TheGeneral said:
Why would you move on Bradley?

From the sound of it, Bradley is OK, but Lappin and Teague don't cut the mustard.

Get Woewodin and Goodwin who wants to coach.

It's time we looked to get new coaches using $$$$$$ and more picks via trading.

No more trading of our second round picks for players unless we can get a star.

No to Tarrant, Brennan and Drummond.
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:thumbsu: We've been down the trading path and we're stuck in the peloton. It's time we fully embraced the 'lottery' of the draft and leave the ways of Big jack and the chequebook behind. I'm not convinced our coaching panel needs more resourcing, money may be better spent gaining us an edge in rehab, recruiting etc.
 

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What a load of you know what about Lappin not being good enough. I don't know where people rip this crap from. Was reported today that we're ranked third in the AFL for conversions once the ball gets into our 50.

Our forward line is functioning beautifully when many thought it would be the reason why we'd miss the 8 this year. He's done a sensational job from the outside looking in from my point of view.

Some people, honestly.
 
Blue Dimension said:
What a load of you know what about Lappin not being good enough.
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Spot on BD.

People forget it was Skinnys idea (and he was the one who pushed for it with Ratts) to play the three smalls at the same time as well.

Matty Lappin is one bloke who was able to compensate for his small size with fantastic skills, and a top footy brain.

If he can impart half of what he knows to our forwards, its a win.
 
Our forward structure was a dog's breakfast against Collingwood and the Dogs in those debacles.

IIRC, that is Lappin's responsibilty.

Does Lappin have great communication skills?

I believe Nathan Buckley is in charge of that department at Collingwood.

Our forwardline has also performed without the three small forwards there.

I guess the rumours about Laidley joining Carlton is a vindication of Lappin's nous as a forward coach.
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Considering our second round picks have helped net us Judd, Warnock & Henderson/Lucas, I'd be all for trading it again :)
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And we got two of those players via a two for one deal.

The trades might have been above or below market value, yet the cost may be our depth via snagging another player in the second round.

2006 was the last time we had a second round selection.

I want a full complement of selections plus extra picks in this draft.

GC will have first bite at uncontracted players, so I doubt we're going to get another good player this year.
 
TheGeneral said:
Why would you move on Bradley?

From the sound of it, Bradley is OK, but Lappin and Teague don't cut the mustard.

Get Woewodin and Goodwin who wants to coach.

It's time we looked to get new coaches using $$$$$$ and more picks via trading.

No more trading of our second round picks for players unless we can get a star.

No to Tarrant, Brennan and Drummond.
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Let there be light!! :thumbsu:

Coaching staff need to get a conditioning coach who knows how to use the gym.

Get rid of lappin, something other than bombing into the forward line might creep into our game.

Out montgomery - he's coaching is about as good as he was a player.
Spend what we have to to get the BEST recruitment staff our there!!

Give Woewodin a go definitely :thumbsu: & have a serious shop around!

We scored the pokies off the doggies and co so we should have more than enough $$$ laying around. (get Fraser B to dip into his pocket otherwise)

B & S - Bradles job apart from having a slight input with the mids, is basically a consultant with ratts, an unoffical right hand man if you will..

Keep the 1st and 2nd picks. Trade F$#KIN hard for lower picks. The drafts top 30 are pretty decent from what we've seen so i'd going hell for leather to get as many as possible even if it ment losing someone not fantastic but 'ok'.
 
I could live with Jacobs + our second rounder for Salopek, however I would really like to have a pick in this years second round, there are some real quality players about.
 
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