Schofield hit on Oliver

[LeverPuller]

Oliver has less spatial awareness than Kosi ... he's into Shuey & Schofield intervenes with such force Oliver is checked out by the medics before racing back into the action.

Lets hope Schoey challenges, sometimes principle must shine thru.

Best young inside mid in the game doesn't have spacial awareness?

 

[Russian Demon]

Cripps actually had a broken jaw. But yeah Carlton just made that up for the sake of it.

You know how common hairline fractures are, right? Like you probably have one in your body somewhere from something as innocuous as banging your knee on the bedframe?

 

[Scotland]

Best young inside mid in the game doesn't have spacial awareness?

The Cripps involved in the game was Jamie, not Patrick.

 

[John Wayne II]

Don't give a shit about Schoey getting a week, make of that what you will, Oliver should and will be embarrassed by this. His statement after the game 'I don't know if it looked like I was faking... ' was essentially an admission of guilt. Should get a fine and a warning, any repeat and give him weeks.

 

[SloppyJoe]

Impact - moot point at this stage, even graded as low hes gone, which as it connected, and people can argue how lightly till they are black and blue, but it connected, then its low at a minimum.

Isn't it the case that they can still determine it was "insufficient force", even if there was contact? If so, then probably my main gripe is that Oliver dropping as he did, and the aftermath over the next couple of days, has turned this into something much bigger than it needed to be, and erased Schofield's chances of an insufficient force finding. That, and the AFL rarely make any public acknowledgement of players diving.

If Oliver doesn't drop and comes straight back at Schofield, there may have been an insufficient force finding. I'm not saying it was a 100% chance (or even a better than 50/50 chance), but everything that happened afterwards turned it into a 0% chance imo.

That said, I'm not worried about Schofield missing a week. We were too tall down back anyway, and we also need to make room for McGovern to switch back when JK returns (which is hopefully this week).

 

[Beutbrute]

Contact in itself doesn't get you suspended, otherwise technically every high tackle could see you getting rubbed out.

The key is to whether the force is such that it is sufficient to constitute a reportable offence. Judd elbowed Pav above his eyebrow once, drew blood and needed stitches, and got off because the force was not considered sufficient. Obviously in this case they thought Schofield's arm was sufficient force.

I suspect Melbourne's medical report helped do him in.

Definitely seems to be some grading of the force by reputation. If this was Dangerfield/Martin on report all brownlow betting would have been suspended until the MRP would have deemed insufficient force

 

[PP34]

You know how common hairline fractures are, right? Like you probably have one in your body somewhere from something as innocuous as banging your knee on the bedframe?

Regardless Lewis still punched a bloke while he wasn't looking.

Something that absolutely deserves weeks and shouldn't be tolerated at all when we're trying to stamp out violence like that from society.

 

[Russian Demon]

He copped a hit. He was bleeding. It may not have hurt, it may have, we can't know. Yet because he didn't react in the exact way you think he should he should get officially warned?

Yeah it looks bad, but nobody is willing to listen to what he hss to say because flogs like Darcy frame it as being a dive when they have NFI what happened outside of a camera angle.

 

[HairyO]

He has to get a week. Any less and they have to sanction Oliver for staging.

 

[HawkMongrel]

You're really struggling. Should've given up whilst you were well behind.

lol

Good afternoon sir.

 

[Russian Demon]

Regardless Lewis still punched a bloke while he wasn't looking.

Something that absolutely deserves weeks and shouldn't be tolerated at all when we're trying to stamp out violence like that from society.

I'll call up Les Twentyman, he'll have your medal ready at the end of the week.

 

[burningdwarf]

I'm sure Clarry feels like a goose. I don't think he'll do it again. And IF it was conclusive that he dived, I'm sure all Melb folks would condemn him unanimously (a couple are already).
But there was contact, there was blood, and he looks soft as butter when compared to the way Viney got through the day. But going down soft because its a shock, or you didn't expect it, or you're just not that tough is not the same as manufacturing a hit when there wasn't one.

And Schofield has only himself to blame for being rubbed out.

It was a clear dive and not his first.

Quickly becoming the biggest twat in the league.

Pathetic he managed to get someone rubbed out for a week.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

Right, because Oliver gets hit, goes down and has to get checked out by medicos its Melbourne's fault that Scholfield threw an elbow?

Getting "checked out" wouldn't be enough to quantify impact

It would be something along the lines of "discomfort and bruising" etc - which would be horseshit

 

[John Wayne II]

Did I miss this blood? Genuine question, I saw him rubbing his lip a lot but to me it looked like he was trying to find some and never did.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

I wonder if the eagles medico checked out luke shuey's chest for bruising?

 

[quotemokc]

The only way Oliver could have been bleeding from that 'hit' was if it caused him to bite his tongue or lip.

 

[John Wayne II]

I wonder if the eagles medico checked out luke shuey's chest for bruising?

Literally where the game will end up if they don't start doing something about players like Oliver - he deserves that reputation.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

Might as well name names

Zeeshan Arain
Bianca Scotney
Paul Blackman

One of them likely has some integrity questions to answer.

 

[SloppyJoe]

Has anyone been found guilty of staging yet?

With the Rance and Oliver incidents, the precedent is starting to be set as to what constitutes "excessive exaggeration". It is starting to look like there needs to be zero contract (e.g. soccer players falling over in the box without being touched) for the finding to be made. Maybe something like the Scotland tackle on Darling from years ago.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

Has anyone been found guilty of staging yet?

With the Rance and Oliver incidents, the precedent is starting to be set as to what constitutes "excessive exaggeration". It is starting to look like there needs to be zero contract (e.g. soccer players falling over in the box without being touched) for the finding to be made. Maybe something like the Scotland tackle on Darling from years ago.

Waite has

 

[Bennett.]

Offered a week! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Darhkuan]

Isn't it the case that they can still determine it was "insufficient force", even if there was contact? If so, then probably my main gripe is that Oliver dropping as he did, and the aftermath over the next couple of days, has turned this into something much bigger than it needed to be, and erased Schofield's chances of an insufficient force finding. That, and the AFL rarely make any public acknowledgement of players diving.

If Oliver doesn't drop and comes straight back at Schofield, there may have been an insufficient force finding. I'm not saying it was a 100% chance (or even a better than 50/50 chance), but everything that happened afterwards turned it into a 0% chance imo.

That said, I'm not worried about Schofield missing a week. We were too tall down back anyway, and we also need to make room for McGovern to switch back when JK returns (which is hopefully this week).

Go back 6 weeks, and I think this gets insufficient force and we all walk away - but given the change in contact to the head, in particular around anything graded as intentional, the force was always going to be the minor part for this incident. Agree if Clarry hadn't dropped it might have given him a chance of getting off.

I'd be really interested in seeing the Melbourne medical report - heard whispers that CO was bleeding after it in his mouth - if that's what they put in the report then schofield was cooked.

Think the AFL just need to send a memo out to clubs this week and put it bluntly like this: All players are on notice for over reacting and playing for frees. Incidents will be heavily scrutinised this weekend and actions will be taken for any activity deemed not in the spirit of the game.

 

[FunkyFreo2]

He did actually cop a punch to the jaw though. Obviously not an impact worthy of a report or suspension, but he did get hit.

 

[Russian Demon]

It was a clear dive and not his first.

Quickly becoming the biggest twat in the league.

Pathetic he managed to get someone rubbed out for a week.

Yeah he made schofield throw an elbow....

 

[Bic]

Got a good culture developing at the Demons...

Punching blokes behind play, punching blokes from behind, diving & staging etc

Embarrassing.