Play Nice Scott Morrison 2.0 - How Long? Part 8 - Lose Unit. Game Over, Bulldozer. Cont in Part 9

[QuietB]

Part 5 is here:

Scott Morrison - How Long? Part 5 - The stroll out.

Continued in Part 6. https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/scott-morrison-how-long-part-6-the-coal-man.1290651/

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Part 6 is here:

Play Nice - Scott Morrison - How Long? Part 6 - Prosperity Theology, The Coal Man + His Bootlickers

Part 5 is here: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/scott-morrison-how-long-part-5-the-stroll-out.1275975/

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Part 7 is here:

Play Nice - Scott Morrison - How Long? Part 7 - Prosperity Theology, The Coal Man + His Bootlickers

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Part 9 is here:

Play Nice - Scott Morrison in the Multiverse of Ministries.

Part 5 is here: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/scott-morrison-how-long-part-5-the-stroll-out.1275975/ Part 6 is here: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/scott-morrison-how-long-part-6-prosperity-theology-the-coal-man-his-bootlickers.1290651/ Part 7 is here...

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[Gralin]

Did you see that press conference today with Penny Wong? “Thank you, Leader……as the Leader said….”

WTAF??

As in opposition leader

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

Certainly the issue of the day

Well it’s not, but the Ukrainian invasion is a bit off topic here and Morrison’s cringeworthy ukulele efforts filled a few pages.

The ALP running with “Leader” is certainly worth a look.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

As in opposition leader

No. The context was very much “I will be leader of this country”. Then Penny Wong chimed in with “Thank you, Leader…..” and “ …as The Leader said….”

 

[madmug]

Did you see that press conference today with Penny Wong? “Thank you, Leader……as the Leader said….”

WTAF??

You get excited about that but not about policy issues.

Why not? Don't policy initiatives get you up & about?

 

[DapperDon]

Well it’s not, but the Ukrainian invasion is a bit off topic here and Morrison’s cringeworthy ukulele efforts filled a few pages.

The ALP running with “Leader” is certainly worth a look.

Possibly just shorthand speech for Leader of the Opposition, and is ALP running with it or just one member in one speech?

 

[Gralin]

Possibly just shorthand speech for Leader of the Opposition, and is ALP running with it or just one member in one speech?

No its Bruce's proof of the red peril of laybah

 

[Gralin]

No. The context was very much “I will be leader of this country”. Then Penny Wong chimed in with “Thank you, Leader…..” and “ …as The Leader said….”

That just sounds like a big standard political dig at Scooters leadership credentials

 

[Mick F]

That just sounds like a big standard political dig at Scooters leadership credentials

Who the **** have the LNP got in charge of tactics?? Has Cory Lewandowski emigrated?

Attacking Penny Wong?? Are they serious??

Only a complete ****wit would think they are smarter than Penny Wong, and have a gotcha over her choice of words.

 

[QuietB]

Why are we calling him scooter?

Pretty offensive to hard working muppets

 

[QuietB]

Who the **** have the LNP got in charge of tactics?? Has Cory Lewandowski emigrated?

Attacking Penny Wong?? Are they serious??

Only a complete ****wit would think they are smarter than Penny Wong, and have a gotcha over her choice of words.

Penny Wong’s biggest gaffe would be their greatest achievement

 

[Gralin]

Why are we calling him scooter?

Pretty offensive to hard working muppets

Makes me think of a 1950s-60s US tv sitcom shithead neighbours kid stereotype so i use it

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

That just sounds like a big standard political dig at Scooters leadership credentials

Yeah that’s not how I saw it.

 

[Gralin]

Yeah that’s not how I saw it.

Of course not i posted above how you saw it

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

Of course not i posted above how you saw it

#supermoderator

 

[Gralin]

#supermoderator

Correct

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

The ALP running with “Leader” is certainly worth a look.

m8 this is beyond cooked even for you.

 

[campbell]

With the faux chest thumping I'd expect Morrison wil be sending troops into Russia next

yikes

 

[OnTheRocks]

No. The context was very much “I will be leader of this country”. Then Penny Wong chimed in with “Thank you, Leader…..” and “ …as The Leader said….”

Get on board or get the fk outta the way , your days are done.

 

[pjcrows]

Well, Morrison got his war.

 

[CakeEater]

Well, Morrison got his war.

What is it good for?

 

[Festerz]

Alexander Downer of whom Paul Keating asked the timeless question: was a more conceited piece of fairy floss ever put on a stick?





"This is the salmon that actually jumps on the hook for you."

 

[madmug]

Alexander Downer of whom Paul Keating asked the timeless question: was a more conceited piece of fairy floss ever put on a stick?


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"This is the salmon that actually jumps on the hook for you."

He was useless back then, he's still useless.

He should have taken some job where his fishnet stockings could have been at some use.

 

[DaRick]

Commentators on ABC News now while saying they're not sure how it will play out it feels as if a "9/11" moment in the upcoming election has occurred, ie a fundamental shift in the narrative of the campaign is going to take place. And made reference to how the Howard government's expected loss in 2001 was turned around due to it

Looking at the Russian military's approach, I'm not sure that the Ukrainian government will be in a position to mount a full-scale war for very long - maybe not even a fortnight.

TBH, I expected them to adopt a more sophisticated version of the 'Georgian template' - i.e. go in, secure the breakaway republics, use surgical strikes against key Ukrainian installations to reduce the need for Russian manpower, beat Ukraine around for a bit and then go home within a month, making their point while incurring minimal casaulties.

However, with hindsight, I understand why didn't adopt that approach - although their military weaponry was formidable on paper, the Ukrainians were not particularly well-trained, the officers were corrupt, and said equipment had been neglected. Considering all of that, the Russians were apparently surprised by the resistance that the Ukrainians put up in 2014 against the Donetsk/Lugansk People's Republics and their Russian 'volunteers'. The Ukrainians had apparently improved even more in the meantime, because they no doubt expected the 'Georgia template' to occur one day. The Russians still would win comfortably due to their sheer firepower and greater sophistication compared to Ukraine, but while Ukraine wouldn't be able to draw out such a conflict, they might have been able to inflict more casualties upon the Russians than Putin deemed acceptable.

Instead of using 'the Georgia template', they've utilised an obviously premediated, US-style combined land, sea and air operation in order to neutralise the Ukrainian military (via surgical strikes while taking over vital installations like Kiev's International Airport via paradop), secure the main cities (especially Russophone cities like Odessa), and thus subjugate the Ukrainian government before they can really do anything, effectively treating them the way they did Chechnya 20 years ago.

Doing this to Kiev during that time period would not have been possible because their strategy (artillery/aerial bombardment + rushing in soldiers) was too crude and costly, plus Putin's relationship with Ukraine was not yet hostile. In 2008, they still relied too much on artillery bombardments and frontal assaults, and lost more than they could have. In 2014, they learned how to secure military installations in potentially hostile territory (Crimea), and in 2015, they learnt to do so in foreign climates (Tartus, Syria) while performing surgical strikes on terrorists with minimal resources. It obviously took them some years to learn how to use those skills as part of a combined land, air, sea approach, and this is the result.

I have no doubt they've been planning this for years, and I will put my hand up and say that I was wrong about them not taking Kiev. They most certainly will, and as expediently and minimalistically as possible. Moreover, combining a land, sea and air operation in this manner would have demoralised the Ukrainians, because their inability to do so effectively symbolised Russia's military superiority over them, and it would have reduced their drive to fight.

Hence why we've seen relatively little resistance from the Ukrainians so far.

As soon as Kiev is taken and a new leader is declared (Zelensky or otherwise), Ukraine would have obviously lost, and the war will effectively be over, even if Russia don't outright declare victory. Your average Australian, while maybe feeling a little dissapointed (many won't care), would have moved on by the next day to other, more pressing issues - such as the spike in petrol prices that this invasion has caused! There'll likely be an insurgency, but Australians will react to that with a one liner before moving-on.

There's every indication that the US will not respond with any military force; they've been warning Americans to get out of Ukraine without needing to rely on such. They won't want to risk a direct shooting war with a nuclear great power, particularly one that can clearly perform sophisticated military operations near its home turf.

My guess is that Ukraine will be nominally independent but in effect a Russian vassal state. Many Westerners would not consider that to be a good thing, but those Westerners don't know that Ukraine is basically 1990s Russia - frozen conflict, kleptocratic leadership, perpetually dysfunctional economy, ethnic divides. In fact, it's one of the poorest countries in Europe. Annexing Crimea did lead to improvements in infrastructure whereas before the region had simply been left to rust; the same will probably happen here to try and quell the inevitable insurgency.

TLDR; Russia's performed a combined land-sea-air operation, taking the Ukrainians (and me) by surprise by not engaging them in full-frontal warfare but rather by securing vital installations and cities while executing surgical strikes, effectively neutralising the Ukrainian military before they were even mobilised and leaving the Ukrainian government in a no-win position. The war proper will likely be over in a fortnight, thus not allowing ScoMo enough time to properly work on and execute his 'statesman' schtick (though I don't think Australians trust him enough to buy it) and Australians will only be distintly aware of any insurgency, if at all. They WILL be aware of a spike in oil prices though!

 

[DaRick]

He was useless back then, he's still useless.

He should have taken some job where his fishnet stockings could have been at some use.

Over his head.

Downer as a robber would have been hilarious, and he would have antagonised the shopkeeper into shooting him, what with his holier-than-thou, self-righteous, self-congratulatory mien.

 

[Pessimistic]

Well it’s not, but the Ukrainian invasion is a bit off topic here and Morrison’s cringeworthy ukulele efforts filled a few pages.

The ALP running with “Leader” is certainly worth a look.

I wondered if it was a Jonestown type reference