Scott Morrison - How Long? (Part 1 - Continued in Part 2)

[geelong_crazy26]

Should be front page news on the little papers as it would have if it was Labor

But, but SlowMo was telling us all last week that Labor was the biggest threat to national security.

The sooner these incompetent fools are no longer running the country the better off we will all be.

Well done scott

1. We are not going to let terrorists dictate our foreign policy.

2. Trump has said to solve Israel/Palestine problem Palestine needs to get the message that west Jerusalem is of the table and belongs to Israel.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

With opinions like this no wonder your world is different!

I think you’ll find it’s the Christian Zionists whose worldview is.... different, to say the least.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Are you really telling us that the Liberals would be happy to lose Wentworth and potentially Higgins in the hope that some blue collar worker will vote for them.

The Liberal Party base is Wentworth, Higgins, Hawthorn and Brighton, sure the Liberals also have a rural country conservative base, they are traditional conservatives that value family and community instead of what the reactionaries think conservative means.

Sections of the Liberal Party like to bring up cutting immigration and ending PC nonsense, however there is little evidence to support the claim that there is any real world opposition to "so called PC nonsense", I well remember many claiming gay marriage was a fringe issue being forced upon everyday Aussies and that it would be rejected by everyday Aussies, however when the results came in, it was a clear and decisive win for the yes vote.

There are many Liberals that support immigration and want climate change to be taken seriously, they are the same Liberals that rejected the Liberal brand in Wentworth and the Victorian state election.

The Liberal Party has a very successful history of delivering progressive policies and being economically open, whereas the current Liberals claiming some mythical base are headed for a heavy defeat.

On Trump, his support was weaker in the rust belt and in states like Iowa that saw three out of four house seats go Democrat.

What do you mean by the liberal base ? the liberal base is more than a few inner city seats. The liberals will do what is needed to win government and all seats are equal. If they pick up more seats in the outer suburbs than they lose close to the city than that's a win.

However you can bet your bottom dollar that those inner city liberals don't like trade unions or wealth redistribution so it will be tough for Labour or the greens to win them over. What we sore in Wentworth was a high profile independent run in a seat which had just been vacated by a dumped PM and just win by the smallest of margins. I would not read too much into it.

The same thing goes on the Labour side, they are more divided and don't forget the previous Labour Government could not manage more than 1 term in majority government, the current liberal government have outdone them. Labour is very much divided between its blue collar base and socially progressive base. The two will clash at some point.

As for PC have a quick look at any US or Australian poll. Most think PC is a problem and no SSM was not a pc issue, a good PC issue would a vote on 18c.

Trump was not running in the last mid term elections, its usual for there to be a swing against the party who holds the WH.He still increased his lead in the senate which is more important.

The 2 most significant votes over the past 20 years were Brexit and the 2016 US election and the right won them both. The left know they are on the losing side which is why we have for the past 2 years been watching 1 great big dummy spit. The rights biggest problem is getting rid of these socially progressive globalist who are trying to hold them back.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

#cough Wentworth,Hawthorn

Under a strong Trump/Howard/Thatcher/Abbott type leader those seats would not of been lost.

Guy was a weakling.

 

[Moody Blue]

This comment is where the Liberals are getting the electorate wrong.

The Liberals have mismanaged the refugee issue by allowing it to drag on for years, unlike the Howard government that acted tough but when all went quiet would allow refugees to leave detention.

The Liberals have made transgender an issue by the mismanagement of the gay marriage debate and it is only the reactionaries talking about it.

The climate gods seem to be worshiped by the Liberal Party's electoral base.

The Liberal Party needs to remember that its base lives in Wentworth, Brighton and Hawthorn instead of the U.S and its base voted overwhelmingly yes to gay marriage and wants action on climate change.

That's exactly what the electorate thought about Rudd. The lefty think tank that talked and talked and delivered bugger all.
Then we had the boats, the 1000 people dying at sea,the pink batts scandal, the workers who died as a result of the ill thought policy, the carbon tax we were never going to have, the left moving on Rudd, the pathetic excuse for a politician (Swan) who stood up every year just presented budgets that were simply a fabrication. Shorten knifing Gillard, the resources tax that delivered nothing, an explosion in 457 Visa's and in 6 years delivered a net loss of 400 billion debt. The debt does not stop when a Govt is kicked out of office, as many of Labors policies could not be undone.
Anyway let's see what the next 3 years of Socialist nirvana delivers. Spend, spend, spend, and more taxes. When it all ends and we try to pick up the pieces, it will be the poor that will suffer the most. BTW Corporations were not paying taxes under Labor's 6 years despite promising to make them. Shorten just blows off the dust from an old playbook and repeats the same promises. Enjoy...

 

[Moody Blue]

You KNOW that illegal arrivals have increased under the Libs. So why lie?

Maybe they have, and if so it should be stopped, and it should be highlighted. You and your left wing mates are brilliant at pointing out your short comings, but fail miserably when Labor's shortcomings are highlighted. It is always the LNP to blame, or Corporations, or the right wing press or some other excuse.

 

[Moody Blue]

Do you purposely go about missing the point or is it just a symptom of your poor education?

My apologies that my education standards do not meet your elitist standards.

 

[kranky al]

Socially progressive right wingers like Turnbull and Bishop make up a minority of the liberal party base and they are not the type of people who decide elections. The liberal party will not win elections with progressive social policies and economic conservatism. At the moment the liberals are a poor persons labour, they need to differentiate themselves.

When right wing parties win elections its with leaders who can win over blue collar left leaning voters with socially conservative policies that divide and conquer. Trump had the rust belt, Howard had his battlers and Abbott had his forgotten families.

There are plenty of blue collar workers to be won over with lower power prices over emission reductions , cutting back on immigration to increase wages and end all the PC nonsense.

In 2013 the liberals won in a land side because they took the fight up to labour on climate change and made it a choice between cutting emissions or lowering power prices. Remember when Turnbull was opposition leader he struggled as it was not until Abbott came along and said no I am going to put the cost of living ahead of climate change that the liberals started to do well.

They also won with mad cheerleading by the stokes / murdoch media

And of course the mining lobby

 

[geelong_crazy26]

They also won with mad cheerleading by the stokes / murdoch media

And of course the mining lobby

Never mind the ABC, Getup, the Unions, Fairfax plus the entire education system brainwashing our kids to vote Labour/Greens.

 

[Maggie5]

Never mind the ABC, Getup, the Unions, Fairfax plus the entire education system brainwashing our kids to vote Labour/Greens.

Good isn't it? I am rapt.

Guess what the common denominator is in that group? The 'man' in the street, the honest good person who really cares about country and their fellow man.

 

[kranky al]

Never mind the ABC, Getup, the Unions, Fairfax plus the entire education system brainwashing our kids to vote Labour/Greens.

Last i checked the abc has around 1/5th of 1/10 of sfa people watching it.

I always love the piteous howls from the right about the abc - im sure the fifty people watching are all deeply deeply indoctrinated.

Getup?

Are you for fkxn real?

Thats an online group who have been started on the smell of an oily rag - if you dont like getup - start a conservative getup, see how many people sign your petition to keep the poor widdle cowpowations paying no howwwible taxes.

The unions? Yes because they have their own tv channel and media outlets as well - just last night i was watching a current affair with some fat bloke in overalls telling me who to vote for. He followed that up with an opinion piece disguised as jounalism in his news paper that also doesnt fkkkkn exist.

 

[Paul Kersey]

I don't like the country getting involved in Israel/Palestine business.

Lost my vote.

 

[Crankyhawk]

1. We are not going to let terrorists dictate our foreign policy.

2. Trump has said to solve Israel/Palestine problem Palestine needs to get the message that west Jerusalem is of the table and belongs to Israel.

And east Jerusalem to Palestine. Sounds fair.

 

[NSWCROW]

Libs surely weighing up whether knifing him will any more damage to the polls.

Absolutely lost his marbles the last 2 weeks

 

[sherb]

Never mind the ABC, Getup, the Unions, Fairfax plus the entire education system brainwashing our kids to vote Labour/Greens.

That's excellent news.

 

[Northalives]

It is odd that he (scomo) now seems to be stating a two state solution is the plan.

Morrison will say anything, do anything to stay in power. He is far, far more untrustworthy and dangerous than Abbott could ever be.

 

[NSWCROW]

That's excellent news.

Someone fill the peanut in that nein own fairfax

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Maybe they have, and if so it should be stopped, and it should be highlighted. You and your left wing mates are brilliant at pointing out your short comings, but fail miserably when Labor's shortcomings are highlighted. It is always the LNP to blame, or Corporations, or the right wing press or some other excuse.

I think you’ve got the wrong end of the stick. You started by claiming a Labor government would mean “open borders” (never mind that no Australian government of any persuasion has ever had an open border policy), and as soon as I point out that illegal arrivals have actually INCREASED under Morrison and then Dutton, suddenly it’s all about Labor’s shortcomings???

If you’re not up to the basics of public discourse maybe you should refrain from posting.

 

[Lebbo73]

That's excellent news.

Of course it is for people like you.

 

[Lebbo73]

Last i checked the abc has around 1/5th of 1/10 of sfa people watching it.

I always love the piteous howls from the right about the abc - im sure the fifty people watching are all deeply deeply indoctrinated.

Getup?

Are you for fkxn real?

Thats an online group who have been started on the smell of an oily rag - if you dont like getup - start a conservative getup, see how many people sign your petition to keep the poor widdle cowpowations paying no howwwible taxes.

The unions? Yes because they have their own tv channel and media outlets as well - just last night i was watching a current affair with some fat bloke in overalls telling me who to vote for. He followed that up with an opinion piece disguised as jounalism in his news paper that also doesnt fkkkkn exist.

Funding from Soros is more like a Saudi oil field, not an oily rag.

 

[Admiral Byng]

I denounce Nikita Morrison for his hare-brained schemes, rash decision making removed from reality, and his efforts to build a cult of personality.

 

[FredLeDeux]

I denounce Nikita Morrison for his hare-brained schemes, rash decision making removed from reality, and his efforts to build a cult of personality.

The personality he's "building" has, like everything else he pinches, already been taken.
Remember Gomer Pyle?

 

[FredLeDeux]

The personality he's "building" has, like everything else he pinches, already been taken.
Remember Gomer Pyle?

Actually, now I think about it, he's more like Fred Scuttle:

 

[JackOutback]

What do you mean by the liberal base ? the liberal base is more than a few inner city seats. The liberals will do what is needed to win government and all seats are equal. If they pick up more seats in the outer suburbs than they lose close to the city than that's a win.

However you can bet your bottom dollar that those inner city liberals don't like trade unions or wealth redistribution so it will be tough for Labour or the greens to win them over. What we sore in Wentworth was a high profile independent run in a seat which had just been vacated by a dumped PM and just win by the smallest of margins. I would not read too much into it.

The same thing goes on the Labour side, they are more divided and don't forget the previous Labour Government could not manage more than 1 term in majority government, the current liberal government have outdone them. Labour is very much divided between its blue collar base and socially progressive base. The two will clash at some point.

As for PC have a quick look at any US or Australian poll. Most think PC is a problem and no SSM was not a pc issue, a good PC issue would a vote on 18c.

Trump was not running in the last mid term elections, its usual for there to be a swing against the party who holds the WH.He still increased his lead in the senate which is more important.

The 2 most significant votes over the past 20 years were Brexit and the 2016 US election and the right won them both. The left know they are on the losing side which is why we have for the past 2 years been watching 1 great big dummy spit. The rights biggest problem is getting rid of these socially progressive globalist who are trying to hold them back.

Labor are more divided than the Libs I mean your more right, Labor only lasted one term with a majority government while this current government lasted a mighty one-and-a-half before becoming a minority.

 

[kranky al]

Funding from Soros is more like a Saudi oil field, not an oily rag.

The soros boogieman.

Yes i just just cashed my $5000 cheque last week from him - the gigs up.

Much like sound cannot travel through space due to it being a vacuum - thoughts struggle to make it through your head