Scott Morrison - How Long? (Part 1 - Continued in Part 2)

[SBD Gonzalez]

True but that's very hard to do. Let me give you my experience as a union delegate.

A more diverse workforce is nearly always a less united one. The easiest people to get to join a union are usually white men so it was much easier to bargain as a collective 20 years ago than today. I don't think that any time soon trade unions having the numbers they once did. Business is also getting much better at selling false hope workers so they see their co-workers as the enemy and management as their ally.

The other way to go about a more even income spread is from government awards. Big problem is what a big business can afford and what a small business can afford are often miles apart. If the award is to high small business does struggle.

Totally agree. The drift downwards to a position where the privileged classes want everything to be has been slow but relentless. Will be extremely difficult to get a level of sanity back into this country. But that is what we must do. Otherwise the place is ****ed.

 

[its free real estate]

A more diverse workforce is nearly always a less united one. The easiest people to get to join a union are usually white men so it was much easier to bargain as a collective 20 years ago than today.

This is the big unmentionable on the left. Solidarity only works in a mutually agreed cultural context.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

This is the big unmentionable on the left. Solidarity only works in a mutually agreed cultural context.

Well it used to work a lot better in Australia.

 

[NSWCROW]

Scott Morrison to unveil $150m support for Trump's mission to Mars

PM says five-year commitment designed to make Australia ‘partner of choice’ to support expeditions to moon and Mars

www.theguardian.com

Don't smoke a spliff on Newstart though !

 

[Present Not Past]

This is the big unmentionable on the left. Solidarity only works in a mutually agreed cultural context.

True. In some cultural settings solidarity has been replaced by nepotism.

 

[Fire]

Mal wanted a legacy but he was stymied by his own party as much as the opposition.

He was stymied by his own cowardess. He valued his position over principles and took no risks or stands. He was a hollow log.

 

[ablett09]

Well it used to work a lot better in Australia.

Hey mate interested in what you mean by that ?

It really is a current struggle for trade unions to attract the number of members we once did. Any ideas from anyone would be much appreciated.

 

[ablett09]

This is the big unmentionable on the left. Solidarity only works in a mutually agreed cultural context.

Public sector unions are doing well but yes in the private sector your 100% right.

 

[Juddism]

Scott Morrison to unveil $150m support for Trump's mission to Mars

PM says five-year commitment designed to make Australia ‘partner of choice’ to support expeditions to moon and Mars

www.theguardian.com

Don't smoke a spliff on Newstart though !

if you have Netflix I highly recommend you watch "Inside Bill's Brain" and see what one of Gates' friends has to say about this Mars bullshit...

so, we've had our PM in DC and all he's achieved is a spending commitment and dinner with a bunch of has-been sports people that haven't resided in Australia for god knows how long.

 

[EasternTiger]

Man Of Titanium

 

[Gough]

Got the tit part right.

 

[Juddism]

Well, some are going to Mars and the Moon but God only knows where we're going as a nation of 25mil.

The s**t we waste money on is obscene.

 

[Gough]

Well, some are going to Mars and the Moon but God only knows where we're going as a nation of 25mil.

The s**t we waste money on is obscene.

Australian mining automation is great when you're licking American arse but not so much when talking jobs in the industry.

 

[its free real estate]

Public sector unions are doing well but yes in the private sector your 100% right.

For unions to work what is necessary is a common understanding of what constitutes a good life. For some it might be knocking off early on Friday to have a couple of beers and go out to the footy. Or being able to leave work early on a Thursday to coach the kids footy team. People from other cultures might see these requirements as bizarre. In the situation, it becomes a lot easier for management to pit workers against each other.

 

[Kram]

Two former Liberal PMs gave character references for a child rapist but John Setka is the devil incarnate.

Would love to see you actually sit in on a CFMEU meeting, reckon you would be the most out of place man in Australia since Dermott Brereton ran through the Essendon huddle.

 

[DaRick]

For unions to work what is necessary is a common understanding of what constitutes a good life. For some it might be knocking off early on Friday to have a couple of beers and go out to the footy. Or being able to leave work early on a Thursday to coach the kids footy team. People from other cultures might see these requirements as bizarre. In the situation, it becomes a lot easier for management to pit workers against each other.

Plus in my experience, people from different cultures have different expectations of employers. Individuals from developing countries with weaker labour laws like Vietnam/India don't have particularly high expectations of employers compared to Australians (hence why they're unfortunately readily exploitable in many cases). That, and communication issues between these types of workers and Australians would impede any proper organisation against an employer, anyway.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Brilliantly sardonic takedown here of this woeful "government".

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...dnt-give-a-damn-that-the-budget-is-in-balance

(Is the great Titus O'Reily ghostwriting for Greg Jericho?)

 

[its free real estate]

Plus in my experience, people from different cultures have different expectations of employers. Individuals from developing countries with weaker labour laws like Vietnam/India don't have particularly high expectations of employers compared to Australians (hence why they're unfortunately readily exploitable in many cases). That, and communication issues between these types of workers and Australians would impede any proper organisation against an employer, anyway.

I’ve worked with a few Indians in my time, and while they have been very intelligent and hardworking, they are deferential to hierarchy to the point of absurdity.

 

[ablett09]

Plus in my experience, people from different cultures have different expectations of employers. Individuals from developing countries with weaker labour laws like Vietnam/India don't have particularly high expectations of employers compared to Australians (hence why they're unfortunately readily exploitable in many cases). That, and communication issues between these types of workers and Australians would impede any proper organisation against an employer, anyway.

100% spot on. The other big issue is the false hope business is good at giving. It's common for a employer to tell a worker they are close to getting a promotion resulting in the worker not joining the union out of of fear of losing the promotion when in reality the employee has no chance at all of being promoted.

 

[DaRick]

I’ve worked with a few Indians in my time, and while they have been very intelligent and hardworking, they are deferential to hierarchy to the point of absurdity.

Vietnamese and East Asians are quite similar. In the latter case I suspect it has to do with 'saving face'. It could be that confronting a superior (like an employer) results in a loss of face.

RE Indians, Indian engineers are apparently quite bright, but Indian IT workers are significantly less so, according to an American computer programmer I spoke to.

100% spot on. The other big issue is the false hope business is good at giving. It's common for a employer to tell a worker they are close to getting a promotion resulting in the worker not joining the union out of of fear of losing the promotion when in reality the employee has no chance at all of being promoted.

I've seen employers make such 'flexible' promises myself (also puffery about 'benefits'). Often it's best for employees to take them with a grain of salt, unless the employer has a track record of keeping such promises.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Funny piece in the Fin
Sky News squanders Trump exclusive

Despite his remarkable election victory, ScoMo remains the same apparatchik with the same callow temperament (lest we forget his tantrum as Treasurer at Anna Bligh’s appointment to lead the Australian Bankers’ Association), only now served with added hubris.

Like The Wall Street Journal’s revelation that Morrison tried to involve Hillsong pastor Brian Houston in the official program, only for Trump’s aides to block the paedophile protector’s involvement.

As one official muttered in the East Room on Friday, “geez, you have to be a fair c--- to be barred from entering this White House.”

Sky News squanders Trump exclusive

News Corp campaigns solemnly for press freedom, then sends a bona fide halfwit to confront the leader of the free world.

www.afr.com

 

[Gough]

Sky News squanders Trump exclusive

Despite his remarkable election victory, ScoMo remains the same apparatchik with the same callow temperament (lest we forget his tantrum as Treasurer at Anna Bligh’s appointment to lead the Australian Bankers’ Association), only now served with added hubris.

Like The Wall Street Journal’s revelation that Morrison tried to involve Hillsong pastor Brian Houston in the official program, only for Trump’s aides to block the paedophile protector’s involvement.

As one official muttered in the East Room on Friday, “geez, you have to be a fair c--- to be barred from entering this White House.”

Sky News squanders Trump exclusive

News Corp campaigns solemnly for press freedom, then sends a bona fide halfwit to confront the leader of the free world.

www.afr.com

[/QUOTE]
If there's one thing the Libs have made very clear recently it's that child rape is forgivable when it's one of your own at it.

 

[Gough]

Funny piece in the Fin
Sky News squanders Trump exclusive

Despite his remarkable election victory, ScoMo remains the same apparatchik with the same callow temperament (lest we forget his tantrum as Treasurer at Anna Bligh’s appointment to lead the Australian Bankers’ Association), only now served with added hubris.

Like The Wall Street Journal’s revelation that Morrison tried to involve Hillsong pastor Brian Houston in the official program, only for Trump’s aides to block the paedophile protector’s involvement.

As one official muttered in the East Room on Friday, “geez, you have to be a fair c--- to be barred from entering this White House.”

Sky News squanders Trump exclusive

News Corp campaigns solemnly for press freedom, then sends a bona fide halfwit to confront the leader of the free world.

www.afr.com

If there's one thing the Libs have made very clear recently it's that child rape is forgivable when it's one of your own at it.

 

[Mick F]

Funny piece in the Fin
Sky News squanders Trump exclusive

Despite his remarkable election victory, ScoMo remains the same apparatchik with the same callow temperament (lest we forget his tantrum as Treasurer at Anna Bligh’s appointment to lead the Australian Bankers’ Association), only now served with added hubris.

Like The Wall Street Journal’s revelation that Morrison tried to involve Hillsong pastor Brian Houston in the official program, only for Trump’s aides to block the paedophile protector’s involvement.

As one official muttered in the East Room on Friday, “geez, you have to be a fair c--- to be barred from entering this White House.”

Sky News squanders Trump exclusive

News Corp campaigns solemnly for press freedom, then sends a bona fide halfwit to confront the leader of the free world.

www.afr.com

Murray has very limited journalistic ability. Night Abbott was deposed he tried to big note himself but the two credible journalists Speers and Gilbert told him to shut up and know his place. Chalk and cheese - he had nothing, clearly all bluff and bravado.

 

[The Warlord]

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