SFNL Div 1 2025

[The Golden Glenferrie]

Cheatenham

 

[Marousses]

I seriously question if this was even done based on seeing a 22minute quarter.

As previously stated the group of us that attended this game discussed the 22minute first quarter for a good 15 minutes post siren… 6 goals kicked and 2 behind regardless of ball ups and throw ins… the math didn’t even add up for the 22 mins by the time the ball made it back to the centre and it’s a big ground ! If I am HQ I’d be jumping on this asap , no doubt if any team is rolled by under a goal watch this issue blow right up

 

[damochandler]

The league changed the ruling for the finals for out of bounds in that it was only when there was a delay the umpire would signal by raising his hand .
In the normal season the clock stopped when the umpire signalled to throw the ball in.
So they are leaving it up to umpires to decide when to call time on.
And they have to remember to do it , though they haven’t had to pay attention to it all season and now they do .
Bloody ridiculous .

This is absolutely absurd

 

[Gobbler]

This is absolutely absurd

The league will properly try and justify it by saying stupid like due to the travel they wanted to ensure everyone got home before dark.

 

[damochandler]

The league will properly try and justify it by saying stupid like due to the travel they wanted to ensure everyone got home before dark.

They love to shoot themselves in foot. They also need to find a better stream partner, 10 bucks to stream finals is ridiculous

 

[Nepotism]

I am hearing the HQ at the SNFL are in damage control. There is a lot going on in the background and they are lucky that St Pauls have accepted the result. Honestly the SNFL administration couldn't organise a pish up in a brewery.

 

[Gobbler]

I am hearing the HQ at the SNFL are in damage control. There is a lot going on in the background and they are lucky that St Pauls have accepted the result. Honestly the SNFL administration couldn't organise a pish up in a brewery.

Both clubs raised the short quarters issue during the game to the SFNL Ground Manager, who just happened to be the CEO.
Didn’t even go and sit with the timekeepers to assist or oversee.
Would have thought that both clubs raising it that would be a good reason to.

 

[bedford]

Both clubs raised the short quarters issue during the game to the SFNL Ground Manager, who just happened to be the CEO.
Didn’t even go and sit with the timekeepers to assist or oversee.
Would have thought that both clubs raising it that would be a good reason to.

Now over , same for both teams , it's not like 1 team was kicking with the wind for longer

 

[random observer]

A number of clubs in WA put their catering out to tender, so they receive an upfront figure at the start of the season and the caterers come in, use the club's facilities then clean up and go home at the end of the day, while the club gets a guaranteed amount of money.

One club in Kalgoorlie has a food truck at all of its matches and at most games they will have either an ice cream van and/or a jam donut van. They make a killing each home game without putting any work into it while it is on the vans to hit break even.

I have heard of clubs in Victoria doing the same as well.

If a club hosted finals, they would no doubt engage the caterers for an extra gig or two for an agreed price.

Can't see why a club would get no money at all for catering in an instance like that.

Fair call - I am not across the financial details of it all.

I imagine footy in Kalgoorlie would be a lot bigger than SFNL H&A games.

The places (in Melbourne metro comps) I have seen outside contractors used to run canteens have been clubs where, if the contractor did not step in, the canteen would stay shut as there were not enough volunteers to run it - a major inconvenience to spectators and an embarrassment to the club. In that situation, the club would not be dealing from a position of strength, so the contractor would (probably) get a good cut. It might be different if you are putting it out to tender for finals - I am guessing. But the club sure wouldn't be getting the entire proceeds as when they used to run the canteen with their own unpaid volunteers.

 

[MortlockWatcher]

The crowds in Kalgoorlie (Goldfields FL) would be roughly 1.5 to 2 times higher than SFL Div 1 crowds depending on the match.

One of the lower grade Amateur clubs in Perth chose a tender for their canteen for $5000 for the season (8 home games).

They get a one-off $5K up front before Round 1 and the caterers had full licence over what was sold and for what price (but obviously they'd be looking to sell as much as they could at a decent profit margin).

If the canteen ran at a loss or made a profit after that was the caterer's issue. If they didn't front up on a match day then there was no pro-rata refund.

 

[Hit The Boundary Saints]

The crowds in Kalgoorlie (Goldfields FL) would be roughly 1.5 to 2 times higher than SFL Div 1 crowds depending on the match.

One of the lower grade Amateur clubs in Perth chose a tender for their canteen for $5000 for the season (8 home games).

They get a one-off $5K up front before Round 1 and the caterers had full licence over what was sold and for what price (but obviously they'd be looking to sell as much as they could at a decent profit margin).

If the canteen ran at a loss or made a profit after that was the caterer's issue. If they didn't front up on a match day then there was no pro-rata refund.

My club outsourced this year due to struggles with volunteers. We get 10% of the gross takings. It didn’t work great and we will be looking to bring it back in house next year.

 

[Greg Tivendale]

Now over , same for both teams , it's not like 1 team was kicking with the wind for longer

Disadvantage to any site with superior fitness.........Chelt fully deserved the win but with an extra 30 minutes of possible football to be played it still could have gone a different way but we will never know.

Let's hope it's all sorted by next weekends games

 

[Marousses]

Now over , same for both teams , it's not like 1 team was kicking with the wind for longer

Understandable point Bedford , but at no stage should Premier Division 1 Senior Football be having 22minute quarters at any stage throughout the season let alone a Qualifying Final and then to a previous Posters post that the umpiring department or league has changed the rule on the run at round 16- 17 to leave it up to the officiating umpires discretion whether they re: blowing time on and off is inexcusable and amateurish

 

[Nepotism]

Both clubs raised the short quarters issue during the game to the SFNL Ground Manager, who just happened to be the CEO.
Didn’t even go and sit with the timekeepers to assist or oversee.
Would have thought that both clubs raising it that would be a good reason to.

You would have thought that the CEO of the SNFL would have got the umpires and the timekeepers together at half time at least and told them how they needed to operate. This is a very simple thing and all that needs to happen is that everyone needs to be in sync. Basic communication.

If the CEO of the SNFL can't do that, what else can't he do?

As I have stated, if this type of error happened in an under 9s practice game, there would be outrage let alone a senior competition final.

 

[clueless5]

Did we have the same problem in the Sunday game between Springvale Districts and Bentleigh?

 

[Nepotism]

The average quarter for the Springvale Districts and Bentleigh was about 24-25 minutes. Because Springvale Districts won by so much it was no problem. Let's see what happens if the game is close.

Either way, the question is: - are the paying spectators getting full value for money with shortened quarters?

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

The average quarter for the Springvale Districts and Bentleigh was about 24-25 minutes. Because Springvale Districts won by so much it was no problem. Let's see what happens if the game is close.

Either way, the question is: - are the paying spectators getting full value for money with shortened quarters?

I want 30 minute quarters.

 

[Nepotism]

Springvale Districts Demons will be no push overs for St Pauls Bulldogs this week. St Pauls Bulldogs would hate to go out to back-to-back defeats after such a prosperous home and away season.

Dingley Dell Dingoes should reign over Cheltenham Rosellas however you never know, Cheltenham Rosellas are a proud club and want to threepeat for their retiring coach Pickering very badly. Last year's grand final would be in the back of both coaches' mind.

Awesome weekend of SNFL short quarter footy this weekend. Get there early as it will probably be over half an hour short of usual time.

 

[Marousses]

The average quarter for the Springvale Districts and Bentleigh was about 24-25 minutes. Because Springvale Districts won by so much it was no problem. Let's see what happens if the game is close.

Either way, the question is: - are the paying spectators getting full value for money with shortened quarters?

24-25 minutes is still well short of proper time on rules even for stopping for just goals and points, 16 goals were kicked and I doubt the ball was back to the middle in 30 seconds flat or the ball back in play from a behind in 10-15seconds. For gods sake VAFA reserves football play longer quarters (flat 25s).

 

[Nepotism]

We will see what happens but if I was one of the coaches of the four teams still remaining in the SNFL competition, I would be setting my rotations of players based on 22-minute quarters. That means that the senior midfielders would only be off for 2-3 minutes a quarter at the 11–13-minute mark and not off for 5-6 minutes as you would in a quarter that ran for 31-32 minutes. You want your best team on the park for the last 9-10 minutes of every quarter. Fatigue is less of a factor.

 

[TooooVeeey]

Anyone heard anything about Jewell? Just seen the pines leadership group tell swayne to step down. Pines has jewell written all over them

 

[Wild Thing]

We will see what happens but if I was one of the coaches of the four teams still remaining in the SNFL competition, I would be setting my rotations of players based on 22-minute quarters. That means that the senior midfielders would only be off for 2-3 minutes a quarter at the 11–13-minute mark and not off for 5-6 minutes as you would in a quarter that ran for 31-32 minutes. You want your best team on the park for the last 9-10 minutes of every quarter. Fatigue is less of a factor.

Call me old school but I still think there’s a place for the gun midfielders to rest for 5mins deep forward. Some teams lack depth and I would much prefer my best player on the ground for close to 100% of the time than the 21/22nd ranked player. I guess Div 1 a little different re: depth.

 

[Nepotism]

It's not the 1980s anymore. Every metric proves what you say wrong. That game style doesn't work given the number of interchanges per game. All the sports scientists who work with AFL teams are in agreement; you aren't resting if you are on the field. Midfielders are meant to sprint not jog. So, if you have your top midfielders are going at 90% pace vrs the opposition midfielders going at 100% pace, you will get smashed in the midfielders where the game is won.

 

[damochandler]

Anyone heard anything about Jewell? Just seen the pines leadership group tell swayne to step down. Pines has jewell written all over them

Hendry beau or guy take your choice if even bongetti

 

[Marousses]

Anyone heard anything about Jewell? Just seen the pines leadership group tell swayne to step down. Pines has jewell written all over them

Surely Pines FNC wouldn’t be that stupid ? Hendry boys wouldn’t tolerate a character like Jewell. In fact I doubt any club at Premier level would entertain appointing him, ask anyone of the All Stars posters on here who know him more intimately and how their club is shaping up going forward ?? Abandoned ship mid-season not being able to handle the expectation of spending big and failing to deliver.

Bongetti doing a good job at Eltham I am told and lives in the north ? But money speaks