Shaping the eight.

[Damp Squarie]

Well we may be hanging on by the skins of our kitbags and mathematically can make a third miracle happen but somehow I dont think so.

Who would give you the greatest pleasure at being eliminated from this years finals series.

Collingwood?

Or Port. There are many bridges yet to cross but who knows?? the final showdown might have two meanings. Port have a tough run up ahead and although they are receiving a healthier list as the weeks lead on to September They are still no certainties to make the eight.

Collingwood missing the finals after 2 grannies may seem more of a chance of happening, than to Port....until you look at their last 4 games.


Or do you think both / either of these sides will be entrenched by round 19.

Let the Crows shape the 8 and take the Brownlow

 

[Asgardian]

Port fans hate the Crows

Crow fans hate Port

'nuff said

 

[tribey]

The way we're travelling at the moment we'd be better off aiming to shape the 15

 

[Port01]

Port - certainties
Collingwood -no chance

Could still shape the draft pick order though.

 

[spindoctor]

Ricciuto would be odds-on to win a second Brownlow if we get a few more wins on the board.

The only thing that could stop him is not winning enough games...he may only get 2 or 3 votes because he has been in a losing sides.

Not many other Crows players will be stealing votes from him though!

 

[Damp Squarie]

Originally posted by spindoctor
Ricciuto would be odds-on to win a second Brownlow if we get a few more wins on the board.

The only thing that could stop him is not winning enough games...he may only get 2 or 3 votes because he has been in a losing sides.

Not many other Crows players will be stealing votes from him though!

We havent won zilch and he is right up there?

 

[Damp Squarie]

Originally posted by Port01
Port - certainties
Collingwood -no chance

Could still shape the draft pick order though.

Round 13
5:40 PM Sat 19 June, 2004 AWST
Fremantle vs. Port Adelaide Subiaco Oval
Win

Round 14
1:10 PM Sun 4 July, 2004 AEST
St Kilda vs. Port Adelaide York Park
Win

Round 15
2:10 PM Sun 11 July, 2004 ACST
Port Adelaide vs. Carlton AAMI Stadium
Win

Round 16
2:10 PM Sun 18 July, 2004 AEST
Hawthorn vs. Port Adelaide MCG
Loss = Venue

Round 17
12:40 PM Sun 25 July, 2004 ACST
Port Adelaide vs. West Coast Eagles AAMI Stadium
Win

Round 18
7:10 PM Sat 31 July, 2004 AEST
Essendon vs. Port Adelaide Telstra Dome
Loss


Round 19
2:10 PM Sun 8 August, 2004 ACST
Port Adelaide vs. Melbourne AAMI Stadium
Loss

Round 20
7:40 PM Sat 14 August, 2004 AEST
Western Bulldogs vs. Port Adelaide Marrara
Loss

Round 21
7:40 PM Fri 20 August, 2004 AEST
Collingwood vs. Port Adelaide MCG
Loss

Round 22
12:40 PM Sun 29 August, 2004 ACST
Adelaide vs. Port Adelaide AAMI Stadium

Loss


6 losses comin up

 

[Damp Squarie]

Originally posted by Asgardian
Port fans hate the Crows

Crow fans hate Port

'nuff said

Thats not me.
I may talk Pork when you speak Cow but recently Id rather talk upsets ahead.

The Crows will win more games -History shows we are late bloomers in August September.

Port rot will set in about Round 16

 

[spindoctor]

Originally posted by topjars
We havent won zilch and he is right up there?

Yes.

Brownlow winners have no correlation with the success of their team - Lockett? Harvey? Crawford?

 

[tribey]

Originally posted by spindoctor
Yes.

Brownlow winners have no correlation with the success of their team - Lockett? Harvey? Crawford?

Because the Saints had real stinkers of years in 1997 and 1998 when Harvey won both his Brownlows...

 

[DaveW]

Ah that old cunundrum.

Good teams have plenty of good players, hence "steal votes off each other".

Bad teams don't get votes.


I would say recent history suggest its better to play for a top side though.

Ricciuto, Buckley, Goodes, Black, Akermanis, Woewodin, Harvey (x2), (Grant), Voss, Hird, (McKernan)... all played for top 6 sides or better.

Crawford was the last non-finalist to get a Brownlow, and the Hawks still finished 9th that year.

I wouldn't be putting any hard earned on Ricciuto.

 

[Port01]

Originally posted by topjars
6 losses comin up

Still leaves us with 12 wins

 

[tribey]

Originally posted by DaveW
Ricciuto, Buckley, Goodes, Black, Akermanis, Woewodin, Harvey (x2), (Grant), Voss, Hird, (McKernan)... all played for top 6 sides or better.

Crawford was the last non-finalist to get a Brownlow, and the Hawks still finished 9th that year.

Going further back:

1995: Paul Kelly (Sydney) 12th
1994: Greg Williams (Carlton) 2nd
1993: Gavin Wanganeen (Essendon) 1st
1992: Scott Wynd (Footscray) 2nd
1991: Jim Stynes (Melbourne) 5th
1990: Tony Liberatore (Footscray) 7th
1989: Paul Couch (Geelong) 3rd
1988: Gerrard Healy (Sydney) 7th
1987: Tony Lockett (St. Kilda)/John Platten (Hawthorn) 10th/2nd
1986: Dipper (Hawthorn)/Diesel (Sydney) 1st/2nd
1985: Brad Hardie (Footscray) 2nd

Meanwhile Ricciuto's Adelaide sits 15th with three wins after 12 rounds.

He'd have to buck history something chronic unless we can win at least 7 of our next 10 with Roo at the tip of the spear.

 

[Mong]

Originally posted by dyertribe
He'd have to buck history something chronic unless we can win at least 7 of our next 10 with Roo at the tip of the spear.

I agree it's unlikely, but Ricciuto could potentially have 10 votes so far which would have him nicely placed, if we could win a few in the second half.

In our three wins Ricciuto was our best in each, as voted in the BigFooty Crows Awards thread above.


****

 

[Damp Squarie]

Originally posted by Port01
Still leaves us with 12 wins

Ok Ill concede.
You will probably sneak in.
No home final....perhaps Sydney at the Stadium might be a classic elimination final