Should all ground dimensions be the same?

[Herne Hill Hammer]

It's actually quite similar to MCG. Let's see how WC and Freo go there after 2 months playing at Optus

It's 5m longer and 11m narrower. The length probably wouldn't matter but the width is a reasonably substantial difference.

It's probably closest to GWS's ground.

 

[underthestars]

Hmm good reference point for Aussie rules . How about , soccer, rugby league, rugby union and NFL

did you not read all the posts above. soccer grounds and union grounds vary markedly. league grounds vary in goal. so the only footy code that is uniform is nfl. that foreign code played in helmets for gawds sake.
and cricket is a very good reference point for aussie rules, given they share the same grounds around the country.

 

[juss]

There's no logical reason to have different ground dimensions*

*apart from the dimensions of some stadiums that dont allow it

 

[Wayne Dwop]

There's no logical reason to have different ground dimensions*

*apart from the dimensions of some stadiums that dont allow it

Simple...Just move the boundary rope like they do for women's cricket. The MCG could then be the same size playing area as Glenferrie Oval.

 

[SharkMeister4]

The AFL is the only football code to play on different sized grounds. Look at all the main football codes - Soccer, Rugby League, NFL etc. They all play on an identical sized ground.

Is it time the AFL got with the times and followed suit? Game plans are being developed more and more that revolve around the size of the ground and it is getting a bit ridiculous.

This is specifically the case and creates an advantage for MCG tenants, who have the luxury of developing a game plan suited to the size of the MCG, knowing full well the Grand Final will be played there.

I am proposing that every ground used for AFL have the same dimensions. This will only be possible by making every ground as skinny as Kardinia Park and every ground as short as the SCG.

I think this is the fairest solution.

How is the fairest solution to change every ground to be like no current ground? Who would realistically like this, it'd be like playing on a soccer ground being that short and skinny. I think the "fairest", and it may just be because I see the ground the most, is Etihads size. It isn't overly skinny or wide, it isnt exceptionally long or short... Its just a footy ground. If they were to do it, they need to just make it a reasonable sized ground, ur suggestion is pretty worst of both worlds

 

[ashep]

What a useless thread.

If I came in, made a bunch of ordinary posts, which all happened to be proven as factually incorrect in pretty short order, I'd get the shits too.

 

[Surely Paul]

If I came in, made a bunch of ordinary posts, which all happened to be proven as factually incorrect in pretty short order, I'd get the shits too.

Speaking of ordinary posts...

 

[roacheee]

Imagine if a ground had the dimensions of NZ's Eden Park.
Someone like Zach Tuohy could slot goals from kick ins.

and every 2nd dangerflog kick would go out on the full

 

[99cents]

rugby fields used to have different sized 'end zones.'
cricket fields are more variable in size than afl
lawn bowls are variable in width- same goes for pro croquet league fields.

Race tracks are different in F1

Chess fields are standardised, as is tennis.

wrestling arenas have a wide variety of situations, sometimes chairs are just left lying around, for example.

In some cases the 100 metre running track is not quite 100 metres

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-17/john-clarke-has-some-legitimate-questions-about/8446728

 

[Bunk Moreland]

It’s a non-issue.

You play on your home ground for a reason

 

[didaksrightfoot]

No - leave the variations (within reason)

BUT - on GF day, the higher ranked team gets the field dimensions adjusted to their home ground. (Same as bringing the rope in)... with Subi gone there is no ground with a dimension significantly bigger than the 'G (AFAIK) - so I see no good reason why this cant be done

 

[Ancient Tiger]

I never understood why the new Optus stadium wasn't built with the exact same field dimensions as the MCG. West Coast and Freo would then play on that ground so frequently that they would not have such a disadvantage as they've had previously playing on the MCG.

 

[blue harvest]

No - leave the variations (within reason)

BUT - on GF day, the higher ranked team gets the field dimensions adjusted to their home ground. (Same as bringing the rope in)... with Subi gone there is no ground with a dimension significantly bigger than the 'G (AFAIK) - so I see no good reason why this cant be done

Kardinia Park, Perth Stadium, Adelaide Oval are all longer than the G but not by more than 10m.
As others have said, the fixture and ladder are compromised, so claims of being higher ranked don't really cut it unless you are a few games clear.

 

[99cents]

No - leave the variations (within reason)

BUT - on GF day, the higher ranked team gets the field dimensions adjusted to their home ground. (Same as bringing the rope in)... with Subi gone there is no ground with a dimension significantly bigger than the 'G (AFAIK) - so I see no good reason why this cant be done

Why not eh?

 

[kickazz]

I really don't get the obsession with uniformity that people on this website have.

Probably varying levels of OCD.

 

[smasha]

Yes,well most of em are pretty similar except the put putz stadium and cola stadium.

 

[Isaac Cumming No 1]

rugby fields used to have different sized 'end zones.'
cricket fields are more variable in size than afl
lawn bowls are variable in width- same goes for pro croquet league fields.

Race tracks are different in F1

Chess fields are standardised, as is tennis.

wrestling arenas have a wide variety of situations, sometimes chairs are just left lying around, for example.

In some cases the 100 metre running track is not quite 100 metres

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-17/john-clarke-has-some-legitimate-questions-about/8446728

Any team obsessed with few metres difference in dimensions has a problem in my view. Our goal is to own the G not to avoid it or try to change it. Then let the Vic's stress about trying to change it to make it fair. It's a challenge, but it's meant to be that

 

[Hank Heavenly]

The AFL is the only football code to play on different sized grounds. Look at all the main football codes - Soccer, Rugby League, NFL etc. They all play on an identical sized ground.

Is it time the AFL got with the times and followed suit? Game plans are being developed more and more that revolve around the size of the ground and it is getting a bit ridiculous.

This is specifically the case and creates an advantage for MCG tenants, who have the luxury of developing a game plan suited to the size of the MCG, knowing full well the Grand Final will be played there.

I am proposing that every ground used for AFL have the same dimensions. This will only be possible by making every ground as skinny as Kardinia Park and every ground as short as the SCG.

I think this is the fairest solution.

I'd like to see it, but it's probably not feasable at this point.

WA had their chance. A brand new stadium built from scratch, no a redeveloped one, so what do they do? They make the playing surface longer and narrower than the MCG.

It was the perfect opportunity to get an advantage over all of the other non-Victorian teams and even over quite a few Victorian clubs that don't play at the MCG a whole lot outside of finals.

They blew it.

Cats Just did a rebuild at Kitty Park, didn't match MCG dimensions
WA clubs just got new venue, didn't match MCG dimensions
SA Clubs got a revamped AO, they did drastically change the dimensions, just not to those of the MCG
SCG just did a massive rebuild, didn't change dimensions to match MCG
Gabba from memory, is one of the closest matches to the G...

Nearly every stadium had a chance to match the MCG in recent years, none of them chose to. None of the Tennant clubs cared at the time, why...?
Because they play 11 home games there every season, and they would rather have an advantage over 11 away teams every year, giving them a greater chance of finishing higher on the ladder, than lose an 11 game advantage all for the possibility they won't have a disadvantage once a year.

Clubs love the home ground advantage, and their fans will only ever whinge on the one or two occassions they don't think it's "Fair"...
Is it fair for MCG Tennant clubs to lose their home ground advantage by playing other Tennant clubs at the G....

 

[99cents]

Should all sports have effing Bruck Mcervaney stinking out the airwaves?

"
Richie Benaud to Bruce McAvaney: is this the new voice of cricket?"


https://www.theaustralian.com.au/bu...t/news-story/4ba535334ba2ba86c4da431d71691192

 

[JackFlash]

"Look at all the main football codes - Soccer, Rugby League, NFL etc. They all play on an identical sized ground."

We don't want to be like other codes? The game started with suburban grounds all of which were different and it was great!

 

[RedVest4]

Cats Just did a rebuild at Kitty Park, didn't match MCG dimensions
WA clubs just got new venue, didn't match MCG dimensions
SA Clubs got a revamped AO, they did drastically change the dimensions, just not to those of the MCG
SCG just did a massive rebuild, didn't change dimensions to match MCG
Gabba from memory, is one of the closest matches to the G...

Nearly every stadium had a chance to match the MCG in recent years, none of them chose to. None of the Tennant clubs cared at the time, why...?
Because they play 11 home games there every season, and they would rather have an advantage over 11 away teams every year, giving them a greater chance of finishing higher on the ladder, than lose an 11 game advantage all for the possibility they won't have a disadvantage once a year.

Clubs love the home ground advantage, and their fans will only ever whinge on the one or two occassions they don't think it's "Fair"...
Is it fair for MCG Tennant clubs to lose their home ground advantage by playing other Tennant clubs at the G....

Why should every other ground match the MCG? MCG tenants already have an unfair advantage playing at a ground that’ll host the GF.

Therefore, to make it at least a little fairer, the MCG dimensions should be smaller.

 

[JackFlash]

Ty for raising this , Ive campaigned for years how absurd it is in an elite competition that teams play on different sized grounds ea week. Ffs this ain’t a village game no more, we have evolved from the 1800s haven’t we. Can you imagine if every soccer game , tennis match, basketball was on a different scale court or ground , as they say if it sounds ridiculous it generally is . A consistent template of say the MCG should be adopted for all grounds , and there’s no good reason to contend this

Tennis is played on different surfaces, not every Cricket ground is the same dimensions, (check out Eden Park in NZ) we have a unique game here in OZ, what's the problem?

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

No.

 

[Hank Heavenly]

Why should every other ground match the MCG? MCG tenants already have an unfair advantage playing at a ground that’ll host the GF.

Therefore, to make it at least a little fairer, the MCG dimensions should be smaller.

Isn't your thread about everyone having the same size oval...?
Doesn't your argument base itself or eradicating the so called bias teams have at the oval that hosts the GF...?
With the GF at the G for the next 40 odd years, why would that not therefore be the blueprint for the set dimensions...?
And if all ovals where the same size, how is it fairer making the G smaller compared to making other grounds bigger, if they are the same size, irrelevant what that size is, isn't it still fair???

Why didn't you just start a thread saying we want every ground to be like Kitty Park because it suits us and it would be fair if everyone had the same as us...
Your statements above contradict your OP

 

[Gralin]

Answer is pretty clearly no they shouldn't and no they never will be. If international sports don't care about it why should we?