Review Showdown 59

[Steve Dore]

Milera’s goal shouldn’t have been disallowed, I’d be ropable if that was paid against us.

...

There was a definite free kick for a push in the back. The fact that you'd be ropable if it was paid against us doesn't make it any less of a free kick.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

A picture tells a thousand words.

 

[FishingRick04]

I don’t think there is any way that something as subjective as the camera angles on this should be overturned. If the umpire called for a review and it was given umpires call then fair enough. But the umpire was right there, looking at it from directly underneath. If this one had happened to port I would have been fuming. I think that the arc overturning this without being asked is overstepping the mark.

The crows have a legitimate case for complaining about that one. The rachele push, whatever. It gets let go a lot on the goal line but I don’t think it should.

The shove for butters goal is 100% there. Two hands in the middle of the back. The rachele “knock on” is clearly an open handed scoop and therefore a throw, but that resulted in a goal. Other than these there were a lot of 50/50 calls that went either way and could have gone the other way. The umpiring wasn’t a disaster for either team. But crows fans and media would have you believe that the umpires tied their players up and held them in a hostage situation for the majority of the game, only for them to heroically escape and win regardless.

It shows what entitlement you can develop from having everything handed to you like they always have.

After the Rankine too far, there was a 10m pass resulting in a Crows goal,.Rankin FWIW took more than 15 steps.

There was the Murray taking dropping ball resulting in holding free against Port and goal also.

There are so many swings and round about,. Not funny, Crows just entitled sooks

 

[IamKeyserSoze]

View attachment 2602422

A picture tells a thousand words.

Hope they have long memories of how much that burned and do what ever it’s takes not to be there again.

 

[FishingRick04]

Milera’s goal shouldn’t have been disallowed, I’d be ropable if that was paid against us.

The free to Rankine at the death was 50/50, but he shouldn’t have been penalised for running to far earlier in the quarter.

Although the umpiring has been diabolical all year, the best team won on the night & it’s up to us to get better.

The Milera disallowed goal is the exact shit we cop from umpires religiously. Dont push no free

 

[Amarula]

Joe Berry hasn’t had nearly enough recognition for his “Wingard-esque” last goal. I’ve watched the video a number of times and I’m still trying to figure out how he did it.

From the ball-up, as soon as he sees that Wines was going to collect the ball, he starts running hard laterally, realising that his only chance of getting a clear shot at goal was to get outside the Crow defence.

Wines’s hand pass is brilliant to a target running directly away from him. It hits Berry in exactly the right spot.

It’s the next bir that I’m not clear about. Berry has to somehow turn his upper body to receive the handpass from directly behind him, but he takes it cleanly in his left hand and in a single motion gets the perfect connection with the ball and kicks a very difficult goal. Yet the way he did it made it all look so easy.

Some have criticised Joe Berry for, among other things, having no tricks, for being “meh”, “vanilla”. On the other hand, the Berry-haters have all been a bit quiet this week.

 

[The Terrible Thinker]

Joe Berry hasn’t had nearly enough recognition for his “Wingard-esque” last goal. I’ve watched the video a number of times and I’m still trying to figure out how he did it.

From the ball-up, as soon as he sees that Wines was going to collect the ball, he starts running hard laterally, realising that his only chance of getting a clear shot at goal was to get outside the Crow defence.

Wines’s hand pass is brilliant to a target running directly away from him. It hits Berry in exactly the right spot.

It’s the next bir that I’m not clear about. Berry has to somehow turn his upper body to receive the handpass from directly behind him, but he takes it cleanly in his left hand and in a single motion gets the perfect connection with the ball and kicks a very difficult goal. Yet the way he did it made it all look so easy.

Some have criticised Joe Berry for, among other things, having no tricks, for being “meh”, “vanilla”. On the other hand, the Berry-haters have all been a bit quiet this week.

Either AFL 360 or The Couch mentioned it last night and they were impressed. So not completely ignored.

 

[johnnysix]

Either AFL 360 or The Couch mentioned it last night and they were impressed. So not completely ignored.

All the media talk during the week has revolved around Adelaide. That's just the reality of how this all works. You want to become a media darling, win games of football. I always said during the Hinkley era, I'd hate to be on our marketing team. How to engender any faith or hope in the football community and in the media when you routinely let everyone down in the games that matter. You need to be undeniable and you do that by being a strong team that wins games when it counts.

 

[The Terrible Thinker]

From a umpiring perspective, we did get a better run than normal against the Crows for once but this is coming from a low bar to start with. Still nowhere near the reaming we got against St.Kilda.

 

[Amarula]

Either AFL 360 or The Couch mentioned it last night and they were impressed. So not completely ignored.

I admire your perseverance, I haven’t watched those shows for ages.

 

[Cheese Tastes Good]

Joe Berry hasn’t had nearly enough recognition for his “Wingard-esque” last goal. I’ve watched the video a number of times and I’m still trying to figure out how he did it.

From the ball-up, as soon as he sees that Wines was going to collect the ball, he starts running hard laterally, realising that his only chance of getting a clear shot at goal was to get outside the Crow defence.

Wines’s hand pass is brilliant to a target running directly away from him. It hits Berry in exactly the right spot.

It’s the next bir that I’m not clear about. Berry has to somehow turn his upper body to receive the handpass from directly behind him, but he takes it cleanly in his left hand and in a single motion gets the perfect connection with the ball and kicks a very difficult goal. Yet the way he did it made it all look so easy.

Some have criticised Joe Berry for, among other things, having no tricks, for being “meh”, “vanilla”. On the other hand, the Berry-haters have all been a bit quiet this week.

That was Berry good.

 

[Willsy10]

After the Rankine too far, there was a 10m pass resulting in a Crows goal,.Rankin FWIW took more than 15 steps.

There was the Murray taking dropping ball resulting in holding free against Port and goal also.

There are so many swings and round about,. Not funny, Crows just entitled sooks

yeah was that a Curtin 10 metre goal assist to set up a Ben Keays goal early in the last quarter?

Good question to ask crows fans is did Rankine run as far as that kick without bouncing? If the answer to that is yes, which visually appears to be the case, then either Rankine did run too far or that shouldn't have been a mark and goal.

But the crows fans want to have their cake and eat it too, they want to highlight every apparently bad decision that went against but ignore the ones that went in their favour.

The butters goal on half time was a classic, yeah it was a bit soft but they literally got a goal only 2 minutes before that after Peatling was done as cold as you could ever be done holding the ball and it was called play on.

The thing that has really annoyed me is that the media is driving this Crows are hard done by narrative too, so unless you watched the game in full with both eyes open everyone seems to think we got lucky and the poor old crows were nearly robbed once again.

It's mind blowing considering the treatment we've copped from the umpires this year.

 

[tribey]

The Milera disallowed goal is the exact shit we cop from umpires religiously. Dont push no free

In a way it reminded me of the double goal in the ‘we gotta long way to go to be like Richmond’ game down that end.





Was a harsh penalty — particularly given the state of the game and slippery conditions — but you can always choose not to push in the first place.

In any case, I don’t remember the subsequent calls for a Royal Commission and minute of boohoos for Port in the following days.

 

[theouthouse]

Ah the crows, even when they win they are losers.

 

[Amarula]

…

The butters goal on half time was a classic, yeah it was a bit soft but they literally got a goal only 2 minutes before that after Peatling was done as cold as you could ever be done holding the ball and it was called play on.

…

The Butters goal was definitely not “a bit soft”. He was pushed off balance by Soligo while they were both chasing the ball to the boundary line, and Butters only just managed to acrobatically slow his momentum before hitting the fence quite gently. If he hadn’t been able to slow his momentum on the slippery ground and hiit the fence maybe four times as hard as he did, he could well have been injured severely. It was a mongrel act by Soligo, and one that the AFL has been trying to stamp out. It most definitely deserves a free kick and maybe more.

The thing about the Peatling free was he got paid a free earlier in the match for doing to Joe Berry what was done to him. In both cases they were so focused on trying to outpace a pursuer that they didn’t notice someone on their blind side and got absolutely nailed in the tackle. Berry quite rightly was penalised. Peatling was a ball up, despite him having plenty of opportunity beforehand to dispose of the ball. If Peatling had been penalised, we would have got the ball into our forward line after several minutes of pressure build-up, after which we conceded those 3 quick goals at the end of the 3rd quarter.

 

[Rash]

View attachment 2602422

A picture tells a thousand words.

Im used to us smilling in these situations

 

[Brian McGee]

The Butters goal was definitely not “a bit soft”. He was pushed off balance by Soligo while they were both chasing the ball to the boundary line, and Butters only just managed to acrobatically slow his momentum before hitting the fence quite gently. If he hadn’t been able to slow his momentum on the slippery ground and hiit the fence maybe four times as hard as he did, he could well have been injured severely. It was a mongrel act by Soligo, and one that the AFL has been trying to stamp out. It most definitely deserves a free kick and maybe more.

The thing about the Peatling free was he got paid a free earlier in the match for doing to Joe Berry what was done to him. In both cases they were so focused on trying to outpace a pursuer that they didn’t notice someone on their blind side and got absolutely nailed in the tackle. Berry quite rightly was penalised. Peatling was a ball up, despite him having plenty of opportunity beforehand to dispose of the ball. If Peatling had been penalised, we would have got the ball into our forward line after several minutes of pressure build-up, after which we conceded those 3 quick goals at the end of the 3rd quarter.

Not only that, but pestling then picked the ball up with one hand after he initially dropped it. Had one arm pinned, then literally just let it go with no attempt to get rid of it legally. The umpire was right there with his whistle in his mouth and let it go.

 

[Sewer de Lance]

The best team won on the night? The crows won, yes, but to say the best team is absurd. They only came out hard in the 3rd and whilst that put a lot of pressure on to the team and backline, they only managed 5 goals from 20 inside 50s to ports 3 goals. Yeah, it put more pressure on them but port came back hard in the last quarter to win and only just fell by what I'd deem as rookie mistakes in that last minute. Port were leading majority of that game and controlling it no matter how you look at it.

That best team nonsense is no better than the entitlement of crows supporters and their entire team and coach thinking they deserve everything and apologies for every minor issue or mistake made. They weren't the best team. They just won.

It’s delusional to think we were the better team on the night. We lost because we weren’t good enough, largely due to a number of our players having poor games - particularly Vis, Burgoyne, Mackinlay, Farrell, Richard’s, & Marshall.

 

[Scodges]

It’s delusional to think we were the better team on the night. We lost because we weren’t good enough, largely due to a number of our players having poor games - particularly Vis, Burgoyne, Mackinlay, Farrell, Richard’s, & Marshall.

It’s true we had players down on form, but it was a real arm wrestle of a game. Actual stats say we were the better team. They had more inside 50’s, but lost almost every other stat. We had every right to win that. They won, but no way they were better than us.

 

[Us against the rest]

All the media talk during the week has revolved around Adelaide. That's just the reality of how this all works. You want to become a media darling, win games of football. I always said during the Hinkley era, I'd hate to be on our marketing team. How to engender any faith or hope in the football community and in the media when you routinely let everyone down in the games that matter. You need to be undeniable and you do that by being a strong team that wins games when it counts.

Port have always let their footy do the talking, when we get back to winning we will not look the poor cousin all the time.

In saying that even when the Clowns were shit for a decade they still got better media coverage from our bog average SA media.

 

[Us against the rest]

Not only that, but pestling then picked the ball up with one hand after he initially dropped it. Had one arm pinned, then literally just let it go with no attempt to get rid of it legally. The umpire was right there with his whistle in his mouth and let it go.

This incident sticks in my head like it was yesterday, it was holding the ball every day of the week, he could have been done for holding or incorrect disposal.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

It’s delusional to think we were the better team on the night. We lost because we weren’t good enough, largely due to a number of our players having poor games - particularly Vis, Burgoyne, Mackinlay, Farrell, Richard’s, & Marshall.

If Logan Evans was just that tiny bit more switched on in the dying seconds he intercepts that handball and we win by 5.

 

[The Terrible Thinker]

I admire your perseverance, I haven’t watched those shows for ages.

They are probably better than the other slop shows out there. But I tend to stream so I can fast forward through the BS parts.

 

[Steve Dore]

View attachment 2602422

A picture tells a thousand words.

Why isn't Carr laughing and grinning from ear to ear?

 

[FishingRick04]

It’s delusional to think we were the better team on the night. We lost because we weren’t good enough, largely due to a number of our players having poor games - particularly Vis, Burgoyne, Mackinlay, Farrell, Richard’s, & Marshall.

Why because they dominated 2/3rds of third? Second we were on top didnt maximise our chances