Side vs Hawks

[Rohan25]

Don't worry about Johnson's knee. Daryn Cresswell's knee was halfway off his leg one day and he belted it 6 or 8 times until it went back into place. I still remember it, and he didn't miss any games at all.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/76771/default.aspx

 

[Stazza71]

If JA kicks 5 plus,presents for contests and does the team orientated things - he will be in for Anzac day.Just cause we only kicked 4 goals last week - JA and Dawes are NOT the instant answer.If we beat Hawks and our small forwards kick 7-8 goals between them - we will all wonder about the rants about selection.

 

[Zahki]

I'm guessing Fraser is in just to expose your ruck weakness, yeah. Otherwise he's been as useless as **** on a bull around ground and probably should've been dropped just like O'Bree.

The forward line is a worry because no matter how you cut it, it's the same forward line that kicked 4.17 a week ago. I hope for all our sakes it actually works this week because if it doesn't there is going to be the mother of all whinge fests on here afterwards.

 

[dswan]

Pardon the intrusion fellas,

Thought i'd just put things into perspective with your worries about your forward line and seemingly not having the issue addressed this week at the selection table:

Saints have probably the best backline going around and can keep pretty much any team to a low score, and they were able to expose your forward line last week.

The hawks on the otherhand, have an average backline at best, so i would think your forwardline would at least be a step up from last week if for no other reason than they will be under a lot less pressure.

Good to see heater in for you blokes, hes a gun.

Can i get an opinion on the decision to keep Fraser in? I was surprised to see him keep his spot, but at the same time can acknowledge the hawks lack of talls and 1 ruckman and hence the decision to exploit both factors perhaps.

(FWIW, not entirely in agreement with my own teams slection committee either, perhaps we can swap for a week next week?)

Cheers guys,

Why would you post that here? And Fraser is shit he must be sucking Mick off

 

[TradeDraft]

Fraser stayed in because he is 1 of MM Favourites

So who is the FF if JA or Dawes is not playing and they both Kick Straight for Goal

 

[Histrionics]

Can i get an opinion on the decision to keep Fraser in? I was surprised to see him keep his spot, but at the same time can acknowledge the hawks lack of talls and 1 ruckman and hence the decision to exploit both factors perhaps.

The only reason I reckon is because you guys only have the one ruckman. We think by having two we can beat you in the midfield and dominate the clearances.

Both of your last two games you have faded out in the last quarter and so has your ruckman. Both sides (Geelong/WB) have gone into the game with two ruckman.

That's the only reason I can see.

 

[dswan]

Pretty ordinary selections, IMHO.

Regardless of specific players coming in or out, we don't appear to have picked a forward line to win us a game. It would appear that we're banking on Fraser taking marks inside 50, which wasn't the case last week in the second half. I hope that MacAffer plays forward as named, because he actually has decent hands.

Looking at individuals, on the other hand, O'Bree out may be a watershed moment for our side. Unfortunately Johnson returns. If there's a late change, I'd like to see McCarthy get another game... yes, I know he was poor last week, but young players need continuity and McCarthy has ability, we all know it.

How Blind are you? He has ability at VFL level or in his own backyard playing his aging father.

 

[spudmaster]

Appreciate the responses on the reasons behind keeping Fraser in, thanks guys.

Didn't mean to upset/frustrate you or anyone else, DSwan, apologies if i have.

All the best,

 

[mattys123]

Fraser stayed in because he is 1 of MM Favourites

So who is the FF if JA or Dawes is not playing and they both Kick Straight for Goal

Yeah, we should have bought Jack or Dawes in.

Preview of what would have happened had Dawes or Jack been selected;

Jack; 4 kicks, 2 marks, 3 frees against, 2 goals.
Dawes; 8 kicks, 4 marks, 2 frees against, 1 goal.

Sorry, but those stats aren't much different to what they were in the VFL last week.

Top forwards work their arse off for 4 quarters, get 15-20 possessions and have 6-7 shots at goal. (Hmm, similar to what a certain no.32 did last week).

Until Jack or Dawes "up their numbers" at VFL level, they don't deserve a game.

 

[Invigoration]

Good team, no complaints here.

Johnno was playing well pre-injury, and his run and carry is a good asset to have against the Hawks.
I doubt he'll get up though, wait and see I guess.

I've got no problem with Dawes biding his time, I don't really think he is bashing down the door or anything at the moment. It isn't the time to be trying to blood blokes anyway, we need our best team out on the park and unfortunately I don't think Dawes is part of it.

Wouldn't be surprised to see him run out for ANZAC day though.

Glad to see McCarthy out, he was shit last week and didn't deserve to be in the team in the first place. Needs to string some consistent VFL together before we worry about continuity at the top level.

 

[Brodeywa]

Interesting, second week in a row we have gone with the same structure up forward. See how we go...

Our forward options do appear limited when compared to our plentiful backman we have on the list (which now includes Rusling). It might be time to send someone the other way from defence to the forward line...

 

[mdc]

Preview of what would have happened had Dawes or Jack been selected;

Jack; 4 kicks, 2 marks, 3 frees against, 2 goals.
Dawes; 8 kicks, 4 marks, 2 frees against, 1 goal.

Sorry, but those stats aren't much different to what they were in the VFL last week.

Top forwards work their arse off for 4 quarters, get 15-20 possessions and have 6-7 shots at goal. (Hmm, similar to what a certain no.32 did last week).

Until Jack or Dawes "up their numbers" at VFL level, they don't deserve a game.

While you're at it, lotto numbers for tonight, please.

I know you like defending selections to hilt matty (and this week I actually mostly agree with you), but your bashing of Dawes and JA is completely unwarranted.

For starters, we know JA is our best forward. How do we know it? Because since the early part of last year, every single opposition coach has put their best defender on him.

Secondly, Dawes did have "15-20" last week. 18 to be precise. And his work at ground-level is presently better than Cloke's, and would be pretty special even at AFL level. He certainly has to get better body on body and overhead, and that's a big if, but he has everything else. Would certainly get just as much of the ball as Cloke given the TOG and the same no. of kicks directed his way.

 

[Go Pies!!!!!]

How Blind are you? He has ability at VFL level or in his own backyard playing his aging father.

Someone needs to relax

 

[Palmer Stoat]

Find the continued selection of Leigh Brown pretty staggering personally. Last year we had a real opportunity to pump games into our young talls and instead played Leigh Brown. This year we seem to be heading down the same path. Makes no sense to me.

 

[Brent24]

Neither Dawes or Jack starred in the VFL, but both were solid. Leigh Brown has been atrocious so far this season. His game against the Bulldogs has been overrated, for every good thing he did, there was a stupid mistake just around the corner. Since then the ratio is more like 1:5.

He isn't needed in the ruck or down back, absolutely no reason he should be getting a game this week. Should have been replaced by Jack or Dawes.

 

[Keele]

Secondly, Dawes did have "15-20" last week. 18 to be precise. And his work at ground-level is presently better than Cloke's, and would be pretty special even at AFL level. He certainly has to get better body on body and overhead, and that's a big if, but he has everything else. Would certainly get just as much of the ball as Cloke given the TOG and the same no. of kicks directed his way.

Lets see if he puts a few games together improving on his overhead and body on body.

 

[JOELY]

tooves and brown very lucky. i swear i say that every week.

 

[Visions]

Surely Johnson won't play? Has he even been training?

I've dislocated my knee cap twice playing sport and both times it took 3 weeks before the swelling even started to subside (still have fluid in my knees to this day due to it) and I could jog in straight lines. Took 6 weeks before I had full mobility back (side to side movement without pain).

Anyhow back to the game. MM is obviously going to do the same as last week. Try and strangle Hawthorns ball movement with close up pressure, hoping they only kick 10 goals and we kick 11.

 

[PieBeast]

Why is it always the same people that always defend what Malthouse does , no matter how ridiculous it is ? Surely you cant always agree with everything ???????? Pathetic that neither Dawes nor Anthony are in the side.

 

[pieman123]

some one please tell me why Leigh Brown keeps getting a game, i could understand it last year when we didnt have Jolly but this year we have 2 ruckmen in Jolly and Fraser, Brown is useless down back and i dont think he has kicked a goal this year, **** me this guys probably the worst player in the AFL, WAKE UP malthouse
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[Palmer Stoat]

Neither Dawes or Jack starred in the VFL, but both were solid. Leigh Brown has been atrocious so far this season. His game against the Bulldogs has been overrated, for every good thing he did, there was a stupid mistake just around the corner. Since then the ratio is more like 1:5.

He isn't needed in the ruck or down back, absolutely no reason he should be getting a game this week. Should have been replaced by Jack or Dawes.

Amen, brother. On present ability, and just as importantly on upside, I can't see how he's selected as a forward before the likes of Dawes and JA, or as a defender before the likes of Nate and Reid (even JA). And given that we have two rucks in the side, he's not being selected as a ruck either (and in any event Dawes offers just as much as a makeshift ruck IMO). I suppose the Anvil is a 'utility' -- if by that you mean he's shit in multiple positions.

Not sure what the downside is to preferring one of the young talls -- can't see how they could possibly be less effective than the Anvil has proved to be over the last season and a bit.

 

[chop_me]

i say we leave the entire 50 for medhurst to do his thing... if we have to rely on one person to kick our goals, it might as well be him.

and JA wasn't great last week in the VFL ...

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Dawes played the whole game...

He played well, but the fact is he's a CHF, not a FF. So having him and Cloke in the same side is problematic.

The other option he has is back-up ruck, where he was very handy last year. So basically, one of Fraser or Cloke needs to be dropped before Dawes can come in.

He meant the last VFL practice match, Dawes played the first half and kicked 4 goals, then was pulled in the 3rd quarter, possibly to attend the Pies vs. Demons game up the road.

Dawes was an emergency for that match, but must have known he wasn't playing. Strange that he was rested if it's so important for him to be tearing games apart before he gets a game ahead of L Brown or Fraser.

After kicking 7 in the first practice match vs. Geelong, and 4 in a half the second time around, he was in pretty good nick. With a decent output from the midfield in the first half against Williamstown, he would have had 25+ touches and an extra goal or two.

Hopefully he has a great game against Casey, along with Reid, Brown, Blight, JA, Rounds and all the other future Gold Coast players.*

*just venting.

 

[Keele]

Why is it always the same people that always defend what Malthouse does , no matter how ridiculous it is ? Surely you cant always agree with everything ???????? Pathetic that neither Dawes nor Anthony are in the side.

Well I could say how come its always the same people knocking Malthouse, no matter how sensible his action is?
Surely you cannot always disagree with everything?????

 

[Rusty Beam]

I am so pissed of atm. Who is gonna kick our ****ing goals!!! To not see Dawes and Jack even named as emergencies is a discrase, he kicked bloody 50 goals for us last year and hasnt mick learnt his bloody lession from last week that we only kicked 4 goals for the game. We got no chance.

Agreed... ****ing pissed off. Our forward line is looking like a joke. I know we definately have brilliance in the small blokes, but appart from Medders they're mostly crumbers. Give them someone to crumb to for ****'s sake.

We look are going to look like Carlton playing Betts as a leading forward.