SNFL Div 1 discussion 2022

[MortlockWatcher]

Well, they are at the lower end of MPNFL Division 2.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Love this idea what would a rough Div 1 and Div 2 be based on this model? The rest I could probably figure out….be remaining SFNL teams but would be interested to see what MPNFL teams you place where. Happy for you to do the whole league if you have time?? I suggest 10 team divisions as they work best (even home and away games playing each other twice).

There is a core of clubs down on the peninsula (actually on the peninsula proper) who simply want their own comp. It's what they've always wanted and want now. And it makes perfect sense - they're country clubs really, but they're close, travel times are low and they get local rivalries every week. Yes Sorrento have been the most vocal but there's others.

I'd just give it to them. They should have it and let them work on having who they want in it.

Everybody else into Southern that would make it much stronger.

In my mind the boundary would be around Frankston, but that'd really be up to individual clubs and what they wanted to do.

There'd certainly be no Chelsea, Edi-Asp, Bonbeach, Devon Meadows etc... the Peninsula clubs have no interest in going up there and have just had it forced on them.

The reason it never happened is because the MPNFL is just a mini-empire interested only in building itself. Same as every individual league.

 

[Blood Stained Angels]

Imagine Chelsea playing in a lower division than Chelsea Heights, Springvale Districts and Bentleigh !!!!

This is a major wet dream !!!!!!!

 

[bedford]

Bedford, here are your Southern Amateurs. You might need to pinch some SFNL clubs to have a decent Bayside comp.

DIVISION ONE (8)
Beaumaris
Hampton Rovers
Parkdale Vultures
Ormond
Glen Eira
Prahran Assumption
Oakleigh
Power House

DIVISION TWO (6-7)
South Melbourne Districts
Elsternwick
Canterbury
Albert Park
St Johns
Masala
Chadstone (?)

Glen Eira is a school team lol

 

[bedford]

Mortlock asked me for what i put together in lockdown , will redo it after next weekend maybe . My model doesn't have teams like Crimebourne in it .

 

[MortlockWatcher]

Glen Eira is a school team lol

There's a bit of everything in that club's heritage - banks, district clubs, schools ... anything else LOL

 

[sainter01]

Well, they are at the lower end of MPNFL Division 2.

MPNFL Div 2 still above Clubs put in that Division 2 Fantasy League

 

[Mr north man]

I've combined the current SFNL clubs with potential division clubs from the VAFA and MPNFL. The structure is based on 2022 results.

DIVISION ONE (10)
Cranbourne
Cheltenham
St Paul’s McKinnon
Dingley
St Kilda City
Springvale Districts
Port Melbourne Colts
Mordialloc
Bentleigh
Chelsea Heights

DIVISION TWO (10)
East Malvern
Doveton
Keysborough
Caulfield Bears
East Brighton
Hampton Park
Highett
Chelsea
Parkdale Vultures
Black Rock

DIVISION THREE (10)
Skye
Heatherton
Oakleigh
Prahran Assumption
Glen Eira
Murrumbeena
Ashwood
Carrum-Patterson Lakes
Endeavour Hills
Lyndhurst

DIVISION FOUR (8)
Narre South Saints
Clayton
South Yarra
Power House
Sth Melb Dist
Elsternwick
Albert Park
Frankston Dolphins

DIVISION FIVE (8)
South Mornington
Hallam
Dandenong
Lyndale
Moorabbin Kangaroos
Hampton
Cerberus
Doveton Eagles


Other possibilities (16): Beaumaris, Bonbeach, Box Hill North, Canterbury, Edithvale-Aspendale, Frankston Bombers, Frankston YCW, Hampton Rovers, Hawthorn, Masala, Old Peninsula, Ormond, Pines, Richmond Central, St John’s, Seaford.

Which 6 Div 1 clubs will go down to Div 2 if Beaumaris,Bonbeach, Edithvale-Aspendale,Pines,Seaford and Frankston Bombers decide to join?

 

[bedford]

Which 6 Div 1 clubs will go down to Div 2 if Beaumaris,Bonbeach, Edithvale-Aspendale,Pines,Seaford and Frankston Bombers decide to join?

No one is leaving anywhere yet . Might have to start an independent thread

 

[2s Hack]

Great post season discussion & bedford is spot on with his thinking. I've always thought a Southern Bayside competition for U/19s would be a solution for an issue that isn't just a localised issue but state wide. Why not extend it to senior ranks as well?

 

[Greg Tivendale]

There's a bit of everything in that club's heritage - banks, district clubs, schools ... anything else LOL

Yeah and senior teachers/administration of McKinnon SC pinching all the St Pauls pathway players across to Glen Eira which was a pretty pathetic move and in a single year killed off our 19's by blindsiding the club

 

[bedford]

Yeah and senior teachers/administration of McKinnon SC pinching all the St Pauls pathway players across to Glen Eira which was a pretty pathetic move and in a single year killed off our 19's by blindsiding the club

And now taking Ormond under 17s out for dinner to try and have 2 under 19s , they just don't stop

 

[sainter01]

Yeah and senior teachers/administration of McKinnon SC pinching all the St Pauls pathway players across to Glen Eira which was a pretty pathetic move and in a single year killed off our 19's by blindsiding the club

Don’t underestimate the boys themselves, they spend alot of time together at School and talk, network you’d say, another example is St Bedes Mentone having 3 U19s this season with so many going to School at St Bedes College

 

[bedford]

Don’t underestimate the boys themselves, they spend alot of time together at School and talk, network you’d say, another example is St Bedes Mentone having 3 U19s this season with so many going to School at St Bedes College

A lot of unfair pressure

 

[sammelb80]

Yeah and senior teachers/administration of McKinnon SC pinching all the St Pauls pathway players across to Glen Eira which was a pretty pathetic move and in a single year killed off our 19's by blindsiding the club

Pretty sure Glen Eira have named their 19s Old Mckinnon now too.
St Pauls have announced a 19s coach... have they already got the numbers for a team?
You would hope the league manages to pull more 19s teams in over this years effort.

 

[bedford]

Pretty sure Glen Eira have named their 19s Old Mckinnon now too.
St Pauls have announced a 19s coach... have they already got the numbers for a team?
You would hope the league manages to pull more 19s teams in over this years effort.

They have . The school footy coach is involved at the Combine

 

[adhoc]

I see ole mate Pete Marshall stepping down from SFL umpires! Will be a massive job to replace him, a legend in Umpiring cirlcles, enjoy the retirement Pete.
Who steps up down there now?

 

[adhoc]

And now taking Ormond under 17s out for dinner to try and have 2 under 19s , they just don't stop

Bedford I thought you were a fan of GI? Obviously not with this quote

 

[bedford]

Bedford I thought you were a fan of GI? Obviously not with this quote

Not happy the way their doing it now , some of these kids are being harassed at school and it's not fair .

 

[bedford]

Maybe SuperCoach is offering by slabs of beer to skool kids now?
How low will the go?

It's not him

 

[adhoc]

It's not him

Who then? Who is president down there now? Don't think committee would be chasing recruits?

 

[Billy the Lid]

Who then? Who is president down there now? Don't think committee would be chasing recruits?

I think it’s the same president they have had for years. I know him vaguely through cricket and he seems like a decent bloke. Has certainly made his club relevant again in a very, very crowded local market when they had been wallowing in the bottom grades of the VAFA.

Any club without aligned juniors who tries to build a relationship with a local school deserves to be complemented, not vilified. Not having a shot at Ormond or St Pauls here but they both have strong juniors and have no claims over kids from McKinnon Secondary (which is hardly a renowned football nursery) or any other school for that matter. Remember GE efforts to establish juniors were vetoed by neighbouring SMJFL clubs so I guess they had to do something.

I know bugger all about them other then they are the result of multiple mergers over the years. Good on them for trying to keep their club (s) alive and they obviously are doing something right if kids want to play there. Plenty of other SFL clubs just can’t be bothered making the effort to establish U19, which is why 15 years after its reintroduction the 19s comp is still failing to thrive.

 

[bedford]

Different President

 

[Billy the Lid]

Different President

Cheers. You probably know the bloke I’m talking about. Was very active in sport around that area. He may no longer be the man in charge but probably was when they got their 19s up and running.

 

[Gobbler]

Cranbourne played on 22 player points on Saturday, the same as the Second Semi Final team against Cheltenham which had 22 pts also so not sure if you were there watching or just heard about it , in fact Fox not playing full forward for Chelt could have been a factor but Cranbournes smaller team seemed suited to the wet weather, the Rosellas had won 16 straight games so it was devastating just like 2019. Bentleigh winning 3 games for the season need to keep their U 19s but time will tell

Might be wrong but think and afl Vic rule is that all when a club changes leagues that all players that transfer become 1 pointers