So When Are You Gonna Join Up?

[Tim56]

It is certainly true that a disproportiante number of working class kiddies get sent to fight wars

Correction. They VOLUNTEER to fight wars. Big difference.

 

[Hurbie]

Which is ironic because those villages being built in Laos are more likely to be being built by evangelical christian missionaries and the like, who are routinely tagged to the right.

And you won't find many people in those initiatives gnashing their teeth eager to invade Iran. Besides, Laotian projects are mostly organised by non-denominational groups like OXFAM. Turns out the government are a bit suspicious of those Christian types.

It's called an 'agenda'. I hear Wa'hibi Madrassas are doing fantastic work in Eastern Africa rebuilding villages and the like. Of course, they tend to make the local population literate by reading verses of the Koran in between building a well and handing out bags of fertilizer.

 

[Caj]

Agreed. There is one subtle distinction though. It is a case of supporting a particular activity and then oblidging SOMEONE ELSE to support that activity on your behalf.

Rather like you deciding that you support teachers and then insisting that I become a teacher.

It is certainly true that a disproportiante number of working class kiddies get sent to fight wars which are disproportiately advocated by middle class parents. There is a movement in the US on the left to SUPPORT the idea of a draft as a means of ensuring that middle-class parents share the burden of war casualties.

It is pretty easy for parents in Rose Bay or Toorak to send kids from Parramatta and Dandenong to do their fighting for them. Might be a bit different if their were more Scotch College kids on the front line.

What a crock of sh*t Weaver.

Noone forced them to join, and you are insulting their intelligence by insinuating that they joined the army without considering the risk that they may actually have to fight a war one day.

And don't spout this bullsh*t that they are from poor undeucated families and had no other choice. There is plenty of work out there for people who are not bright enough to to be a lawyer, teacher (or whatever). In fact many people who are not suited to these professions are skilled in other areas making them suited to manual professions such as plumbers, mechanics etc.

If you did a survey on every soldier in the australian army asking them why they joined, i would be astounded if you found one person who would respond that they were forced into it by poverty.

 

[dan warna]

Yes, soon as I finish uni and get my educ. degree I'm joining the army. If Bush thinks there's plenty of work to be done, I'll be there for him.

baaa baaa

hope you get your jollies murdering women and children and helping haliburton shareholders get very rich.

 

[demon_dave]

Yes, soon as I finish uni and get my educ. degree I'm joining the army. If Bush thinks there's plenty of work to be done, I'll be there for him.

is Bush your leader? if you are so gung-ho you should be there now, the wars are on at the minute not once you finish your degree

 

[Fevola4God]

is Bush your leader? if you are so gung-ho you should be there now, the wars are on at the minute not once you finish your degree

You heard it first here PowerKop. Drop everything you're doing and go NOW. NOW!

 

[Weaver]

Noone forced them to join, and you are insulting their intelligence by insinuating that they joined the army without considering the risk that they may actually have to fight a war one day.

They would have joined under the implied understanding that if they were sent to war it would have a well considered and inevitable eventuality. Many will have signed up fully committed to defending their nation, but with little expectation in being caught up in foreign adventurism. I doubt many would have anticipated going to war on clearly fraudulant motives such as they current occupation of Iraq.

And don't spout this bullsh*t that they are from poor undeucated families and had no other choice. There is plenty of work out there for people who are not bright enough to to be a lawyer, teacher (or whatever). In fact many people who are not suited to these professions are skilled in other areas making them suited to manual professions such as plumbers, mechanics etc.

I think your prejudice is showing. I did not mention poverty, nor uneducated, nor desperation, not being forced into joining up. YOU are the one who has chosen to characterise working class that way. YOU are the one who has gone on to imply that people who are not bright can choose a trade. My experience is of plenty of thick professionals and very bright traddies.

All I said was that there is a diproportianitally high number of working class kids fighting, and they are sent there by politicians and voters who are more likely to be middle class. That things might be different if a lot of parents of soldiers were from John Howards' electorate.

 

[Thierry Henry]

baaa baaa

hope you get your jollies murdering women and children and helping haliburton shareholders get very rich.

What a load of crap

 

[Thierry Henry]

is Bush your leader? if you are so gung-ho you should be there now, the wars are on at the minute not once you finish your degree

There will always be war's while Bush is around and the war on terrorism will never be won.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

hope you get your jollies murdering women and children and helping haliburton shareholders get very rich.

Why on earth would you hope that happens?

 

[Frodo]

Stupid thread...stupid question

 

[dan warna]

What a load of crap

seems to be what US forces specialise in these days.