Movie Star Wars - Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker - Spoilers and Rumors

[Exe Gesis]

Nice little video explaining a flaw in the posters of the ST compared to the OT and PT, that show how the ST the movies are poorly planned.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Another bunch of good points made by him in this one...

 

[atlas1]

Reminds me of those posters you see next to toy stands in places like Big W and Kmart. It's too professional to be fake, but the theatrical poster would have the title as well.

 

[Exe Gesis]

 

[eaglespremiers]

if JJ undoes everything in ep8 and retcons it in ep9, then it renders ep8 utterly meaningless and useless, and all one has to essentially do is watch 7 and then skip straight to 9

There is nothing wrong with this proposition.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Very nice video/analysis from another one of my favorites, again, very mellow reasoned voice without all the BS.
Discussing here the problem with Force Ghosts -- especially as we enter Ep9 which is apparently force ghost heavy, and how the ST expanding on FG lore is a problem too.

 

[Exe Gesis]

And a good video analyzing theories about Knights of Ren...

 

[Exe Gesis]

 

[Exe Gesis]

Now there's yet another episode 9 title "leak" from aintitcool.com

https://www.aintitcool.com/title-star-wars-ix-81951/

STAR WARS - EPISODE IX - SKYWALKERS

 

[Exe Gesis]

 

[HahnPremium]

He also reckons his source says Disney had a problem on their hands with Rey being a super mary sue, admittedly they erred, and their way of fixing the continuity error with SW lore is to make Rey a super clone of multiple elements like palpatine etc, to explain away her super mary sueness.

Disney.
" We gotta tie this all in and up before we can write our own s**t without being tied to the Lucas bullshit and merch the bejesus out of it. How 's this sound? Shmi IS the force. Give some floaty abstract vague explanation that Shmi whilst in human form represented the kalidescope of human existence. Suffering (slavery), Triumph (immaculate conception of the most powerful force imbued entity), and Matryrdom (dying to vagabond scum but setting a long path for redemption for her jesus son).
And then tie in Rey as another recipient of her intergalactic midi-chlorian donorship.
Job done.
Episode 10-Phasma vs the Invicibles- A new war.

 

[Exe Gesis]

 

[HahnPremium]

Oh my lord.
Just eat your microphone and give up on the sweet gift that existence and living is.

 

[Exe Gesis]

 

[Exe Gesis]

Must be difficult for actors. When asked to perform a moment of tearfulness, they must draw upon a real life moment of great sorrow to get the tears flowing, and long after they call "cut" the actor has to ride out those tears.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Disney.
" We gotta tie this all in and up before we can write our own s**t without being tied to the Lucas bullshit and merch the bejesus out of it. How 's this sound? Shmi IS the force. Give some floaty abstract vague explanation that Shmi whilst in human form represented the kalidescope of human existence. Suffering (slavery), Triumph (immaculate conception of the most powerful force imbued entity), and Matryrdom (dying to vagabond scum but setting a long path for redemption for her jesus son).
And then tie in Rey as another recipient of her intergalactic midi-chlorian donorship.
Job done.
Episode 10-Phasma vs the Invicibles- A new war.

Just to get back to this, that Rey is a clone. An old video that validates this theory...(convincing)

 

[StFly]

Very nice video/analysis from another one of my favorites, again, very mellow reasoned voice without all the BS.
Discussing here the problem with Force Ghosts -- especially as we enter Ep9 which is apparently force ghost heavy, and how the ST expanding on FG lore is a problem too.

Consider;

Holocrons are the accumulation of knowledge of form; How to wield, how to think, how to act.
The force "has a will" it is "alive", it is a living entity within the quantifiable confines of Qui-Gons midiplanations.
In PT, OT & ST, Luke has only viewed or heard from "masters" has has had a personal connection to; Vader, paternal father, Obi-Wan initial master, Yoda second master, he has not heard or viewed others, ie Sidious who he also came to know.

In the case where force flows through all living things, and someone like Luke who was considered strong in it, forms connections through it, "where there is a will, there is a way". If one imparts their wisdom into holocrons, if their body fails, what happens to their will? What happens to the fabric of the person, the soul? Do they not join with the living force to then retain their self?

Given that we've really only seen instances where those attributed to calming influences, ie LS, have been able to become ghosts, as the force is well, a force, perhaps DS instances to subvert or overpower are met with, well, force?

In the case where you view it as a living entity, with the duality of two living entities in the same space, symbiosis wins out 9 times out of 10 when matched with conflict, and as LS v DS is a change of the spirit, of the self and not of the form, one can view that the reasons behind Ghosts being brittle things who may not be around much or say much, is due to such conflicts of subverting the will of a force.

 

[Exe Gesis]

"Since Episode IX is done filming Mark Hamill is back at it again with expressing his opinion on Disney Ruining Luke Skywalker."

 

[Exe Gesis]

This is a very recent video (from a couple weeks ago).

Sounds like all the rumors/leaks about Luke having a big role are BS. That in IX Hamill gets another cameo role, appearing as a force ghost for a couple of scenes tops and does nothing of merit.

 

[Exe Gesis]

very good video focus...on how lightsaber duels are sorely neglected in the Sequel Trilogy. Especially how the very guy who created all the fighting styles in SW lore and trained the actors in various styles was NEVER even asked to return to the ST.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Also, his suggestions and edits to TFA and TLJ would've made those movies soooooo much better. Some great writing and visual ideas he has.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Some leaks/rumors here, for Ep9 and outside it, including Ray Park returning as Darth Maul in a live-action TV show...

 

[Exe Gesis]

It's happening.

More leaks/rumors of Rey's backstory, pointing toward what I posted before (Rey being a super clone or virgin birth to validate her mary sueness that was more by accident/bad writing/planning, than by design).

Apparently, her lineage/backstory will be exposed little by little thru the course of the movie, like a Matryoshka doll. But such that each reveal is a twist/surprise on the reveal before, until finally the last reveal blows the door open on the entire Skywalker saga. Will have saga-wide implications, altering lore, altering the understanding of the Force itself, and will integrate aspects of Legends. Specifically....the hot rumor is that this means how in Legends there was a comic/book where Luke's lost hand was cloned and there was a Luuke character. So the hot rumor is Rey was cloned from Luke's hand, in one of the facilities/observatories that Palpatine had on Jakku. However, it also might tie in somehow that Rey is a child of the Force like Anakin, or even worse, something like she IS the Force itself or some s**t like that. But whatever it is exactly, fans who are spoiler-free will be totally blown away, shocked.

 

[King Elvis]

Apparently. Redefine the PT and OT. Because the idea seems to be Snoke was around 1000 years ago, pre-dates Palpatine, Plagueis, was a Prime Jedi, trained with Darth Nihilus, etc. So they're trying to place this entity inside the pre-known canon/legends, and redefine those eras, making the whole "Six Degrees of Snoke" thing within the SW lore.

And yet, he died like a bitch.

 

[King Elvis]

another rumor/leak about luke's force power greatness and thus retconning TLJ...

- Luke is a force ghost in Ep9, but then, in front of rey and kylo, he turns from force ghost into real flesh and blood. showing he's perhaps always been still alive....or more likely.....that as an old force ghost, he can materialize temporarily into a younger flesh and blood of himself, whilst still being a force ghost really, and have that younger flesh and blood version of himself engage in lightsaber duels, etc. Apparently this idea was in the original ROTJ script, where a force ghost can materialize into a younger version who can engage with real entities.

- this as a way for JJ to appease disgruntled fans, a "clever" way to make Luke alive again -- either temporarily or permanently.

another leak/rumor....

in the TLJ novelization it shows how when Luke was doing the force projection of himself, a voice encouraged him to let go, etc. people assumed that was obi-wan, but....

in episode 9 there's a scene where luke and rey are standing on the prime jedi mosaic and luke tells rey how anakin (his father) while in the Netherworld of the Force, taught the technique of force projection to him, soon after the time of ROTJ, and how he guided him thru the process during the events of TLJ.

we are also going to see what the Netherworld of the Force will look like in ep9, as Luke will be there.

this also is another example of how LF/JJ/etc are expanding the power of the force, so that force ghosts are able to teach new practical techniques to living beings. here, luke teaching rey, passing on this doppleganger technique to rey.

and lastly....

- there's an eu book about how the glove and hand of vader survived the destruction of the death star in rotj, fell down a shaft and onto the surface of a nearby moon. jj borrowing that idea where instead it's vader's red lightsaber that survives, and kylo has managed to acquire it, along with vaders melted helmet, and melted body armor suit. over the years. kylo has a vader shrine on his new shuttle in ep9, and he often talks to it, and we even hear vader's breathing in these moments.

- why is kylo always talking to the helmet, in jj's mind? he did it in tfa, and he's set to do it again in ep9. so it's speculated that jj is creating hybrid force ghosts, or allowing dark siders to be force ghosts, where it's not just kylo talking delusionally to the helmet, but there's some two-way actually happening.

This all sounds really ******* s**t.

They're going to trash the entire Universe to try and make TLJ less of a cluster*?