* Still missing *Malaysian Airlines plane with 239 on board

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Just after they turned off the communications.

They haven't said how long it maintained that altitude.
impossible for 45,000ft then, absolutely wouldn't happen 40 mins into a flight with 70ton of fuel and 240 pax onboard, it would simply stall. The service ceiling is nothing to to with hypoxia etc, it is to do with the maximum thrust being available = the minimum thrust required to maintain level flying.
 

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I don't think this scenario is particularly likely, but say the hijackers manage to get the plane back up in the air with a proportion of the passengers still alive and on board and fly it towards a major landmark or city... radars would pick it up fairly quickly once airborne you'd assume, but what happens next? will it be shot down with that many innocent people on board or would government/s military attempt to intervene mid-air somehow?
 

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Ok who noticed anyone boarding the aircraft carrying an oxygen tank. The genius that has planed this has planed this avoid everything as far as killing passengers other crew avoiding radar to fly out to the Indian Ocean run out of fuel and crash into the ocean. No glory claiming responsibility. Let's face it only the pilots could do this not some random terrorist. Why not just throw it into a spin end it there?
 

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I don't think this scenario is particularly likely, but say the hijackers manage to get the plane back up in the air with a proportion of the passengers still alive and on board and fly it towards a major landmark or city... radars would pick it up fairly quickly once airborne you'd assume, but what happens next? will it be shot down with that many innocent people on board or would government/s military attempt to intervene mid-air somehow?
Shoot it down, and downplay the number of innocents still onboard.
 

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impossible for 45,000ft then, absolutely wouldn't happen 40 mins into a flight with 70ton of fuel and 240 pax onboard, it would simply stall. The service ceiling is nothing to to with hypoxia etc, it is to do with the maximum thrust being available = the minimum thrust required to maintain level flying.
They are saying that they don't think the data is completely reliable.
 

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impossible for 45,000ft then, absolutely wouldn't happen 40 mins into a flight with 70ton of fuel and 240 pax onboard, it would simply stall. The service ceiling is nothing to to with hypoxia etc, it is to do with the maximum thrust being available = the minimum thrust required to maintain level flying.
Yeah I understand that and I'm not professing any knowledge on the subject . . . but impossible or not, it appears they did it (or the radar data is wrong).
 
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Your thinking is the point of it, you would ever expect a plane or planes to just disappear with no word.
So they are basically just pranking the world? What's their next master stroke? Lighting a bag of flaming dog poo on the front porch of the White House ringing the bell and then running off? Sending a whole heap of Pizza's to Buckingham Palace that they didn't order?

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Why would it have dropped off radar? Once it was below a certain height?

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height, radar ability to track it up until a certain point only..

I'm wondering if the Kazakh signal was more likely to have been far western China, near Kashgar or Urumqi, which are less than 2hrs from Almaty in flying time.
 
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Why not just kidnap them on the way to the airport? Why take the hardest way to kidnap someone?
How could they do that? Kidnap 20 people one by one on the way to the aiport? Maybe the police/security will see this as well. It would be easier to get these 20 people in one small place and kidnap them that way.

My opinion if this is a hijacking:

1) Some rogue military/terrorist group or perhaps government kidnapped the group steal the information/technology from these people.

2) The 35 year old Uigher man flew this plane into central asia or Pakistan, and will use the people (almost all chinese) as a way to terrorize/threat china. Remember in Pakistan the Uighers have bases and get trained and armed and go back into china to attack. Places like Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan view the Uighers as 'turkic brothers' and want to liberate 'western turkistan' from China e.g. pan turkism. Those countries are very corrupt and backwards, and have lots of terrorist groups as well. The only central asian country that is moderately civilized is Khazakstan.
 

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Taken from somewhere.....

Ive been thinking about the missing Malaysia flight and been doing some reading...

...and after further thought, it's tin foil hat time....I got some questions that may or may not have been answered....

That is a crazy altitude for that plane. Would the cabin been able to keep pressure? What was the purpose of taking it to that altitude? Getting everyone to pass out?

Why did the plane go off radar? Just because the transponders and other communications equipment went dead, doesnt mean that the plane still wouldnt show up all over radar. That plane would have been just as easy to track as ever. Something doesnt add up here.

And what of the information that is leaking out that there were a ton of pasengers on that flight that were engineers for worked for Freescale Semiconductor in Malaysia? This company is state of the art and has many divisions, including military. They do nearly all of Intel and AMDs work. So here we have two countries, Malaysia and China, with a top flight electronics engineering firm, Freescale semiconductor, and 20 missing engineers on a vanished plane. Something to chew on for sure here.

Two people got on that flight with stolen passports....or did they? Any final confirmation on that. I only know what the initial reports were.

I read that supposedly on lightradar24, it showed an adjacent aircraft heading (AT A HIGH RATE OF SPEED!) north east, prior to the disappearance. Anyone else heard this?

And then there is always the chance that this is a false flag event. Anything to distract us from whatever fvcked up stuff Obma has us doing over in Crimea. A far fetched theory I know. Im just throwing things out there. In time, the dust will settle, and we will know what was a reach and what is more likely.

But the first question we should ask is, how did this plane vanish from radar so easily? Or did it?
 
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