Sydney Stack Discussion

[Phar Ace]

Our local council ours are about to get booted out because of an uproar in town

Pick peanuts - room for more peanuts I hear!

 

[This Is Anfield]

Had to fill out a form and one of the questions was Country of residence... I put Victoria.

 

[juss]

The reason WA has a low infection rate is the fact it’s on the West Coast and has minimal international travel .
IIRC Melbourne and Sydney each have over twice as many incoming international flights than any other city and the percentage increased during COVID .

Correct, lower population density and less domestic interstate travel too.
Their response has been archaic, as is this punishment, doesn't fit the crime.

And that's not defending Stack, he ****ed up, but he shouldn't be going through this for the offence.

 

[Bazzar]

The reason WA has a low infection rate is the fact it’s on the West Coast and has minimal international travel .
IIRC Melbourne and Sydney each have over twice as many incoming international flights than any other city and the percentage increased during COVID .

Simply not true.

Melbourne had "massive" infection and death rates and had "no" incoming international quarantine after the initial bungle.

Mid September, NSW take 350 return travelers per day, each for 14 day quarantine, WA, SA and QLD about 500 per week.

Vic zero.

 

[Bazzar]

Correct, lower population density and less domestic interstate travel too.
Their response has been archaic, as is this punishment, doesn't fit the crime.

And that's not defending Stack, he f’ed up, but he shouldn't be going through this for the offence.

Compare Victoria, NSW and WA population/covid case and death ratios.
Victoria (in November) was worse than the US.

[Numbers on nov 7

Australian deaths "excluding" Victoria 1 in 217,511
Victorian deaths 1 in 7,764

Australian cases "excluding" Victoria 1 in 7300

Victoria 1 in 312

Compared to the US 1 in 330,]

 

[juss]

Compare Victoria, NSW and WA population/covid case and death ratios.
Victoria (in November) was worse than the US.

[Numbers on nov 7

Australian deaths "excluding" Victoria 1 in 217,511
Victorian deaths 1 in 7,764

Australian cases "excluding" Victoria 1 in 7300

Victoria 1 in 312

Compared to the US 1 in 330,]

I'm not denying Victoria stuffed up royally with the botched quarantine

 

[Ron The Bear]

Their response has been archaic, as is this punishment, doesn't fit the crime.

And that's not defending Stack, he f’ed up, but he shouldn't be going through this for the offence.

Think of it like drink driving. Yeah a few innocent people get killed, but millions make it home safely.

 

[Phar Ace]

Had to fill out a form and one of the questions was Country of residence... I put Victoria.

Haven't you heard, it's been changed to Dantoria...

 

[Bazzar]

Think of it like drink driving. Yeah a few innocent people get killed, but millions make it home safely.

And its ok to drive at 0.059
The litte bit extra is just a technicality because i can handle my booze.

 

[Phar Ace]

Compare Victoria, NSW and WA population/covid case and death ratios.
Victoria (in November) was worse than the US.

[Numbers on nov 7

Australian deaths "excluding" Victoria 1 in 217,511
Victorian deaths 1 in 7,764

Australian cases "excluding" Victoria 1 in 7300

Victoria 1 in 312

Compared to the US 1 in 330,]

It was really bad in the eldest quartile. These are the people a few on this site didn't really care about "a few weeks of extra life" they said. The responsibility has to be shared between Federal and State - the degrees you can argue about until the cows come home.

 

[Bazzar]

It was really bad in the eldest quartile. These are the people a few on this site didn't really care about "a few weeks of extra life" they said. The responsibility has to be shared between Federal and State - the degrees you can argue about until the cows come home.

Feds had/have nothing to do with it. Its all state controlled

 

[Phar Ace]

Feds had/have nothing to do with it. Its all state controlled

The Commonwealth government is responsible for the aged care system in Australia. Aged care falls under the Department of Health. The majority of aged care homes receive Federal government funding via subsidies.

 

[Phar Ace]

And its ok to drive at 0.059
The litte bit extra is just a technicality because i can handle my booze.

Don't worry about it, Vic has the most lenient DD laws for first offenders - she'll be apples mate!

 

[Bazzar]

The Commonwealth government is responsible for the aged care system in Australia. Aged care falls under the Department of Health. The majority of aged care homes receive Federal government funding via subsidies.

Track down and read the covid "suplimentary" section in the recent aged care royal commission report released in October. ( i can post the conclusion)

The main and only issue they found was masks, and that was rectified in 7 days, and apart from the mask issues they found "at no stage were the federal government blamed for ANY deaths in Victoria" and this was also bought up in the Coate enquiry.

Aged care was handed over to each individual state by national cabinet at the beginning of covid.

 

[Bazzar]

Don't worry about it, Vic has the most lenient DD laws for first offenders - she'll be apples mate!

Speaking from experience are you

 

[Phar Ace]

Speaking from experience are you

Nope, only ever been tested hundreds of times - me and Tommy were like that

 

[Phar Ace]

Track down and read the covid "suplimentary" section in the recent aged care royal commission report released in October. ( i can post the conclusion)

The main and only issue they found was masks, and that was rectified in 7 days, and apart from the mask issues they found "at no stage were the federal government blamed for ANY deaths in Victoria" and this was also bought up in the Coate enquiry.

Aged care was handed over to each individual state by national cabinet at the beginning of covid.

As I said, The responsibility has to be shared between Federal and State - the degrees you can argue about until the cows come home.

 

[THE THIN MAN]

Track down and read the covid "suplimentary" section in the recent aged care royal commission report released in October. ( i can post the conclusion)

The main and only issue they found was masks, and that was rectified in 7 days, and apart from the mask issues they found "at no stage were the federal government blamed for ANY deaths in Victoria" and this was also bought up in the Coate enquiry.

Aged care was handed over to each individual state by national cabinet at the beginning of covid.

COVID-19 (coronavirus) information | Aged Care Quality and Safety Commission

LAST UPDATED 4 January 2021 COVID-19 information from the Commission

www.agedcarequality.gov.au

 

[Bazzar]

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COVID-19 (coronavirus) information | Aged Care Quality and Safety Commission

LAST UPDATED 4 January 2021 COVID-19 information from the Commission

www.agedcarequality.gov.au

"There were no active cases of COVID-19 in residential aged care before 7 July 2020
but by 13 July 2020 there were 28 cases. By 9 August 2020, the day before our hearing
commenced, this figure exceeded 1000. The first recorded death of an aged care
resident from COVID-19 in Victoria was on 11 July 2020. As at 13 September 2020,
there have been 563 deaths.

During this period, both the Australian Department of Health and the Aged Care Quality
and Safety Commission were active in providing advice. However, this did not extend
to mandating, or recommending, the use of face masks in aged care facilities. This is
despite the fact that, according to Professor McLaws, masks are ‘a very cheap and
effective method’ of slowing the spread of COVID-19

On 29 June 2020, the Australian Department of Health released a document entitled
First 24 Hours – Managing COVID-19 in a residential aged care facility (First 24 Hours
Guideline) This document provides critical guidance to facilities in the event
they experience an outbreak.

On 30 June 2020, the Aged Care Quality and Safety
Commission issued a document directed to Victorian residential aged care services
entitled Covid-19: Are you alert and ready? This document contained advice from the
Commission’s Chief Clinical Advisor, Dr Melanie Wroth. It referred providers to the
recently updated CDNA Guidelines.

On 7 July 2020, the Australian Government Minister for Aged Care and Senior Australians
wrote to aged care providers urging them to ensure that their outbreak management plans
were ‘up to date and ready to be activated’ but did not suggest that they should consider
asking their employees to wear masks.

Two days after the first Victorian COVID-19-related death connected with aged care,
on 13 July 2020, on advice from the AHPPC, the Australian Government Minister
for Health announced that aged care staff working in Victoria’s lockdown zones
(then Greater Melbourne and the Mitchell Shire) ‘will be required to wear surgical masks’

This announcement came five weeks after the WHO advised that health workers should
wear masks and four weeks after community transmission numbers in Victoria had started
to increase in mid-June.

6. Conclusion
The COVID-19 pandemic has been the greatest challenge Australia’s aged care sector has
faced. Those who have suffered the most have been the residents, their families and aged
care staff. The suffering has not been confined to those homes which have experienced
outbreaks. Thousands of residents in homes that have not suffered outbreaks have
endured months of isolation which has had and continues to have a terrible effect
on their physical, mental and emotional wellbeing.

We decided to hold this hearing to identify what lessons can be learned from the
experience of the aged care sector’s response to COVID-19 in the first eight months
of 2020. We have identified a number of lessons and made six recommendations for
the Australian Government to implement that we consider will better prepare the sector,
its staff and its residents for any future outbreaks of this pernicious virus.
Longer-term reform of the aged care sector will be the subject of our Final Report in 2021.

 

[Del65166]

Get rid of state go ts , have one law for all Australia , thus would also reduce the burden on the taxpayer, get rid of some snouts in the trough

England has a good national education and health system. No need for different driving licences every where you live. Downside is a government wishy-washy on COVID and death toll through the roof. Australians seem really happy with their premiers who have been tough with border policy. (collateral damage : Stack in jail) Can't see any hope in hell we change from current system. Morrison might delare a coup d'etat and install himself as president. Corruption is human nature unfortunately. Aged care!! Offshore detention facilities etc. (and Giving someone $30mill. for their land for a second sydney airport in 30 years)

 

[Genghis Tron]

I remember when this thread was about Stack.

 

[NaturalDisaster]

Keep on topic everyone

 

[Bazzar]

I remember when this thread was about Stack.

Stack, covid, police, government, it IS on topic

 

[Muddiemoose]

I remember when this thread was about Stack.

Who?

 

[Bazzar]

Who?

We could talk about his preseason training with the boys this week......