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Without jurisdiction they are just opening themselves up to external legal challenge.
Go to court, get injunction, declare finding null and void, assert tribunal lacks competence to rule with a charge to assess
Calling it making it up as you go along is an insult to those making it up as you go along
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Leigh Montagna: "Three ex-players (the tribunal) will make a decision that potentially changes the fabric of the game, which I think is wrong."
He doesn't think it warrants a suspension
David King does. Thinks more needs to be done to stamp out head injuries, concussion
He doesn't think it warrants a suspension
David King does. Thinks more needs to be done to stamp out head injuries, concussion
I'm not sure if I'm in the minority here or not but I think Mackay absolutely elected to bump and intended to hurt Clark. Not break his jaw, but hurt him. I think it would be completely appropriate if he got weeks.
However, to do it in this manner without even laying a charge is just amateur hour.
However, to do it in this manner without even laying a charge is just amateur hour.
IMO he was going after the ball had his arms out trying to gather the ball and it was really at the last split second when he turned his body to protect himself. At no point was he electing to bump for mine.
So how does the tribunal work with no charge? If they getthree ex players who think there is nothing in this, is it nice to meet you David lets head down the pub for a few not sure what we are doing here. Just a bonkers decision not to lay a charge.
David King also suggested Mackay should have not gone for the ball in the first place.
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David King said 3-4 matches.
I think 9 matches seems fair
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I think 9 matches seems fair
.It was pure emotional appeal rubbish. 'we are seeing young kids with concussion issues, 21, 22 years old, we have to stamp this out of our games'.... Ok so ban bumping via rule changes, not legislating from the bench.
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And this is what the game will come to.
Discourage players from going for the ball due to the possibility of collision injury and we may as well just ban contact full stop.
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How many voices does Michael Christian have echoing in his head? s**t job. Should not have taken it. Should just be the AFL citing players and then their QC arguing.
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no i agree. he went the bump and was clumsy with it, and got clark flush on the jaw
David King seems to have vastly different interpretations depending on whether you are Victorian or not.David King said 3-4 matches.
I think 9 matches seems fair.
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Whenever its a non-Victorian it is time to "send a message".
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Exactly how I saw it. Hands down to collect the ball turned at the last minute to brace contact. If he intended to bump like others have suggested, then why were his hands down? If it were a legitimate bump surely the MRO could have graded it. Its just a 50/50 contest and unfortunately one player got injured.
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David King is conflicted. Cos Mackay hit a guy he wants better numbers on champion data.David King said 3-4 matches.
I think 9 matches seems fair
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I think you're in the minority.
Mackay hasn't chosen to brace for a bump. He still has his arms out for the ball.
Choosing to bump should be one ruling. Two players both going for the ball should be another.
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You must be thinking of a different incident, or you haven't actually watched what Mackay did
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If we are going to start reporting people for the outcomes of 50/50 collisions, then we need to report both parties.
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The cotchin one was an absolute joke and is probably why the morons running this league currently find themselves in the pickle they are in right now.
from 2m out Cotchin has his right arm tucked in and it is clear that he was going for the bump..
Cotchin, with arm tucked in, had clearly taken the “bump first, ball later” option and it resulted in Sheil being knocked out of the game.
But they ignored it.. and let him off. They laughably tried to claim he was going for the ball only..
now everything since has been them desperately trying to re-adjust back to a position whereby they are seen as being tough on incidents that result in head injuries..
the crows should take the cotchin vision to the tribunal and ask for a please explain because Mackay has his hands out and is going for the ball first and thus his actions and intentions are
far more innocent than Cotchins.
this current farcical situation is solely due to the league being run by complete and utter buffoons. Sucked in to the *in dicks for creating this flea riddled bed they now lie in.
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You dont bump with both arms and hands out though do you.. when you go the bump you tuck your arm in to protect yourself and lead with your shoulder.
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I understand how the tribunal looks at consequences first and actions second
I have argued why players will get time off based on the consequences - but there were always mitigating circumstances ie bad tackle - or the above Cotchin example.
Mackay is going for the ball without any intent to bump - it was a time and space collision that has left one player missing the rest of the season and 1 player having a new reputation as a hard man
It would be disappointing to see Mackay get games but I can certainly see that he would miss at least 1
I have argued why players will get time off based on the consequences - but there were always mitigating circumstances ie bad tackle - or the above Cotchin example.
Mackay is going for the ball without any intent to bump - it was a time and space collision that has left one player missing the rest of the season and 1 player having a new reputation as a hard man
It would be disappointing to see Mackay get games but I can certainly see that he would miss at least 1
...so stand back and let the opposition get the ball.
...so stand back and let the opposition get the ball.
Well the issue is you can't go in hard if a player looks like winning the ball because you may bump each other and you'll get suspended. But then with the way holding the ball can be interpreted players won't want to pick up the ball and get tackled straight away so we may soon see a situation where the ball gets bounced to start a game and all players stand around looking at each other.
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If it was so easy to lead up and then outsprint your opponent back, how come other key forwards can't do it like Jenkins could in his prime years? He had an excellent record for us.
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