Society/Culture The Abortion Thread

[ShanDog]

Mods - can we have a special font for sarcasm please? Just so people don't read my posts literally and respond to them like this...

Of course you can. Anything you want.

See? I'm using it right now.

 

[chelseacarlton]

Mods - can we have a special font for sarcasm please? Just so people don't read my posts literally and respond to them like this...

Woopdeedoo

 

[chelseacarlton]

That’s a lot of emotions you’re having.

I’d be more concerned about how you took time to respond with that epic line!
EPIC!!

 

[chelseacarlton]

I suspect that those, and there are many of them, mostly women, who hold the view that human life begins some time well before birth, will never stop trying to eradicate what they consider to be the mass killing of innocent children.

Sexually abusing a human is contemptible. Killing is worse.

Your lot blew it on abortion when you started boasting about the eradication of Downs Syndrome.

Why would I care for one second about what a droll catholic that thinks a wafer magically turns into the flesh and wine into blood of an old dead jew,which the you eat and drink whilst on your knees gleefully looking up at a priest!
Bukkake fans!

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

Why would I care for one second about what a droll catholic that thinks a wafer magically turns into the flesh and wine into blood of an old dead jew,which the you eat and drink whilst on your knees gleefully looking up at a priest!
Bukkake fans!

Because they want to mess with your “reproductive rights”.

 

[Lebbo73]

When the doctors say so.

I have considered them - "Abortion is a moral, ethical, social and genderless issue", it may be all of those things, however it is the female that must carry for 9 months.

 

[Maggie5]

You should know by now I don't watch these things.

 

[Lebbo73]

You should know by now I don't watch these things.

You only watch if it suits your pov. It’s called killing a life and it only goes for 121 seconds.

 

[Maggie5]

You only watch if it suits your pov. It’s called killing a life and it only goes for 121 seconds.

Well there you go, you could have just posted that.

 

[Pie eyed]

For the record I fully support the right of a woman under the current laws to make the decision whether or not to take responsibility for bringing a child into the world, that it is the woman's and in some case the prospective fathers, choice alone and no religious group or third party outside of the relationship other that the woman's medical carers has any right to an opinion at all.

 

[Scotland]

I for one think all unborn fetuses should be armed to protect against this sort of thing.

 

[Procrastinator35]

I'm certainly pro-choice on the issue....Far be it for me or others to prescribe to people what is the right/wrong decision in their own lives & in their own circumstances.....No one else is privy to those facts more than the person/people deciding on the fate of their own life & body.....No one else's business I'd of thought.

 

[Scotland]

I'm strongly anti-abortion if:

- you are aborting someone else's foetus against their will
- you are aborting your own foetus without the required medical training

Other than that it's not really my business as I don't have a uterus. But I will provide tacit support by not having an abortion.

 

[ShanDog]

Far be it for me or others to prescribe to people what is the right/wrong decision in their own lives & in their own circumstances

We literally do that constantly, and codify the resultant expectations and moral judgements in law.

 

[Procrastinator35]

We literally do that constantly, and codify the resultant expectations and moral judgements in law.

So with regards abortion....that then takes us into infringement of foetal rights, which is a whole other kettle of fish.

Do foetus's have rights?....Rights are prefaced upon the existential notion of the individual....All types of cans & worms in that scenario.....Much unpacking required.

I tend to think that the law has it right in OZ ATM.

 

[Snake_Baker]

The entire human race should be sterilised and only high I.Q. people should be allowed to breed.

 

[TimmeT]

The entire human race should be sterilised and only high I.Q. people should be allowed to breed.

I'm worried about the kind of kiddies I'd produce lol

 

[Snake_Baker]

I'm worried about the kind of kiddies I'd produce lol

The issue isn't abortion, it's the morons that DO have kids.

Abortion, as they say, is a woman's choice.

However, by choosing to terminate a life, they forfeit any and all rights to make any moral judgements about men as a gender.

 

[strung_out7]

For the pro abortion people, if a man wants an abortion, is this ok? If he wants the abortion, and the woman doesn't, can he then be completely free from any upbringing costs etc.?

 

[Snake_Baker]

For the pro abortion people, if a man wants an abortion, is this ok? If he wants the abortion, and the woman doesn't, can he then be completely free from any upbringing costs etc.?

Nope.

Nope.

 

[cartwright]

For the pro abortion people, if a man wants an abortion, is this ok? If he wants the abortion, and the woman doesn't, can he then be completely free from any upbringing costs etc.?

No one is “pro-abortion”. It’s pro-choice.

 

[TimmeT]

No one is “pro-abortion”. It’s pro-choice.

Completely illogical.

 

[Snake_Baker]

No one is “pro-abortion”. It’s pro-choice.

semantics

 

[Pie eyed]

For the pro abortion people, if a man wants an abortion, is this ok? If he wants the abortion, and the woman doesn't, can he then be completely free from any upbringing costs etc.?

Well he can't actually have the abortion but he can have the right to have an abortion.
He can be completely free from any upbringing costs etc if he uses effective birth control, something else the church has been loath to allow in it's medieval wisdom.
That opens up an entirely separate kettle of fish though in regard to children being a blessing from God and all.
Surely a God would not bless those who did not want or could not possibly raise a child knowing full well they would abort it.
A what of children conceived in rape?????
What is God thinking there???

 

[faible]

He can be completely free from any upbringing costs etc if he uses effective birth control, something else the church has been loath to allow in it's medieval wisdom.

You can say the same for the female in defense of not permitting abortion...

If she can't effectively use birth control, why should she be able to opt-out of parenthood? What if the father wants to keep the child and the mother doesn't?

It's not a short and simple discussion.