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Beer prices are bad everywhere but $50 for a carton of beer compared with 2 rounds of 4 beers for $50 is a no brainer.

As in its cheaper to stay home.

Also the pub i used to go to got rid of its sportsbar/normal tap beers and made it this $12 hipster shit craft beer bar with loud music and no TAB.

A pub to me is after work few beers watch some horses and wind down not Charlie Dixon looking bar blokes with tatts with rolled up sleeves and Amy winehouse looking barmaids who look and act suicidal. Shite vibe.

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Craft beer certainly has a place in the market (and is the fastest growing segment of the beer market) but I get your sentiment - pubs should not neglect the front / sports bar for spaces that seem more fashionable.

I get quite annoyed at pubs that undertake massive renovations then proceed to charge like wounded bulls for food / drinks.
 
Won't work.

People take luggage to airports. Will be kaos.

The unsolicited bid the clowns on channel 9 are begging to build will be a disaster as they want an isolated line using tolling stock that isn’t compatible with the rest of the network. That’s just another Sydney city/south east suburbs line fiasco waiting to happen.

If they’re going to build a tram line to the airport, it has to integrate with the rest of the network. Sure, have dedicated rolling stock for the line to factor in the luggage, but isolating the line from the rest of the network is just asking for trouble.

Personally, I think the extension to North Adelaide (and, in a few years time when the Marshall government is swept out of office, the Norwood extension) should happen first before the airport extension.
 

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The unsolicited bid the clowns on channel 9 are begging to build will be a disaster as they want an isolated line using tolling stock that isn’t compatible with the rest of the network. That’s just another Sydney city/south east suburbs line fiasco waiting to happen.

If they’re going to build a tram line to the airport, it has to integrate with the rest of the network. Sure, have dedicated rolling stock for the line to factor in the luggage, but isolating the line from the rest of the network is just asking for trouble.

Personally, I think the extension to North Adelaide (and, in a few years time when the Marshall government is swept out of office, the Norwood extension) should happen first before the airport extension.
I shuttled people to the airport. They have two or three suitcases each. Even backpackers have one big one. We would need trains for them. Something the size of red hens. I can't see place for the infrastructure for this at the airport. Theres only one way in from Donald Bradman drive

The road in and out is kaotic at peak times. A rail service is not going to allievate this enough to warrant taking some of those roads away.

You going to have to get the people really close to the terminal. Theres nowhere for that without impacting the pick up dropped off point

Talking to a driver of buses we came to the conclusion that norwood has a really good bus service anyway. That can be even better for alot less than building dramas through the parade and without the kaos during construction.

One up north east road though could benifite

It's south that really needs help. Where traffic into the city could be allievated. Including up Shepard's hill road
 
I shuttled people to the airport. They have two or three suitcases each. Even backpackers have one big one. We would need trains for them. Something the size of red hens. I can't see place for the infrastructure for this at the airport. Theres only one way in from Donald Bradman drive

The road in and out is kaotic at peak times. A rail service is not going to allievate this enough to warrant taking some of those roads away.

You going to have to get the people really close to the terminal. Theres nowhere for that without impacting the pick up dropped off point

Talking to a driver of buses we came to the conclusion that norwood has a really good bus service anyway. That can be even better for alot less than building dramas through the parade and without the kaos during construction.

One up north east road though could benifite

It's south that really needs help. Where traffic into the city could be allievated. Including up Shepard's hill road

A train to the airport would be completely out of the question without some mega infrastructure investment, property acquisitions, road realignments etc.

The only people who need multiple suitcases per person are premium international travellers - and most of them wouldn't use a tram service. They'd get a taxi. The people who'd use it would typically have one bag. You could get away with the Citadis' doing the airport line, or order some dedicated rolling stock for the line (you'd need to order extra rolling stock anyway for any line extension).

Any train/tram extension would require realigning the pick up/drop off points for cars. This can be easily done where the tram and cars can coexist without causing chaos. Also, any new tram line (as any transport expansion) will cause traffic disruption. South Rd's been disrupted for years with the Superway, T2T and Darlington works. Short term pain for long term gain.

Norwood may have good bus services but a tram could complement these services. Any extension to Norwood is always going to attract NIMBY's though.

The north east is the last place I'd put a tram line - they already have the O-Bahn, which just got expanded.

The south is getting help with the Darlington works, and early talks about the next stage of the North-South Motorway, that potentially will include tunnels.
 
Extend tram down centre of port rd. Expose Port Adelaide more.

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I've never understood this sentiment as there is a perfectly good train line that does the job 300 metres to the north of Port Road. Just seemed pointless to me.

Re the Airport, you could have a Tram line From Norwood to Henley Beach with a spur going down Airport Road to the Airport.
 
I've never understood this sentiment as there is a perfectly good train line that does the job 300 metres to the north of Port Road. Just seemed pointless to me.

Re the Airport, you could have a Tram line From Norwood to Henley Beach with a spur going down Airport Road to the Airport.

i thought the same thing with the tram line to the Port, they need to make Main North Rd 3 lanes all the way to Gawler before they do the tram line to the Port
 
Beer prices are bad everywhere but $50 for a carton of beer compared with 2 rounds of 4 beers for $50 is a no brainer.

As in its cheaper to stay home.

Also the pub i used to go to got rid of its sportsbar/normal tap beers and made it this $12 hipster shit craft beer bar with loud music and no TAB.

A pub to me is after work few beers watch some horses and wind down not Charlie Dixon looking bar blokes with tatts with rolled up sleeves and Amy winehouse looking barmaids who look and act suicidal. Shite vibe.

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fair enough if you're not keen on over-hoppy craft beer, but to me a pub / TABerat with horses and pokies and a jukebox that costs $2 per song is the definition of depressing...
 
Does the airport need a tram/train line? I'm not sure its a need in the 21st century

It’s a nice to have but the J1X does the job whenever it’s not broken.

North Adelaide/Norwood should be the priorities for now. And the airport line should not be an isolated line that the unsolicited bid wants.
 

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Brittania roundabout invincibility is tempting.

I've never had problem with the Britannia roundabout, even the old format was easy
 

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