Opinion The 'Carlton related stuff that doesn't need it's own thread' thread Part 2

[The Old Dark Navy's]

On Murph,

The left arm weakness (not being able to do weight lifting) probably goes a fair way to explaining broken tackles. Hard to lay a good tackle when one arm can't go above your head and is probably less strong overall

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He said he couldn't reach out to his left very much so it does explain a lot.

It's still on the club playing an injured player ahead of fit players, in doing so, judging that an injured Murphy is better than a fit youngster.

It does put to bed the notion of him being soft

 

[norway blue]

On this . My mum who was a world champion sportswoman donated all her trophies to the relevant museum and apart from a few showings her achievement trophies are in the back rooms like many world class athletes. I suggest keep them .


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[DangerousD]

No gambling chat

 

[AceAndy]

No gambling chat

I need to find out what odds katmanblue got on the Blues making the finals.

 

[Garters]

Nice insight here, particularly the last few minutes minutes with some admiration for Gary Ablett and Sam Walsh.

That was really good. Good insight into how bloody hard they work / structured club land is. Pretty level headed guy

 

[BlueGum]

I need to find out what odds katmanblue got on the Blues making the finals.

PM him bad putter

 

[AceAndy]

PM him bad putter

Harsh BG. Probably accurate but none the less harsh.

 

[Metalcrusher]

Harsh BG. Probably accurate but none the less harsh.

Accuracy seems to be you issue ...

 

[AceAndy]

Accuracy seems to be you issue ...

Agree proximity to the pin is definitely an issue, three putting on the cards when you are continually 40 plus feet away.

 

[El Topo]

Yeah, it is in this article as well.

'The most lonely I've ever been': Why Murphy can't recall Malthouse years

Former Carlton captain Marc Murphy says sacking Brett Ratten and appointing Mick Malthouse was definitely the wrong decision

www.afl.com.au

To tell you the truth, I would have preferred Carrazzo too, but Judd should have kept it IMO.

Says a bit about the CFC at the time, we should have been grooming successors from the moment Judd walked in the door. Club-wide delusion buying into the 2011/12 media hype.

 

[BigBreakfast]

Who did Mick want as the captain? Someone who wasn't in the best 22?

Whomever he could bring over from Collingwood. If not, Daisy.

 

[Stefchook]

It was definitely Carrots. Mick thought he was the standout candidate but injured too often so went with Murphy who was seen as someone who could grow into the role. Was quoted on it previously.

Regardless of what anyone thinks of Malthouse, I think he was kind of right when it came to the captaincy. Murphy wasn't really 'built' for the role. And Carrots would have been a superb captain if he hadn't just had triplets and his body hadn't begun to break down. But hard to see the wisdom in telling Murphy this, unless it was unavoidable.

 

[Arr0w]

Personally, I would have had Simmo as captain during that era

 

[blueboy25]

Regardless of what anyone thinks of Malthouse, I think he was kind of right when it came to the captaincy. Murphy wasn't really 'built' for the role. And Carrots would have been a superb captain if he hadn't just had triplets and his body hadn't begun to break down. But hard to see the wisdom in telling Murphy this, unless it was unavoidable.

Why? Because he doesn't yell or doesn't smash into opposition players.

The role is about so much more than that and guys like Cripps and Docherty rave about Murph as captain.

 

[ferrisb]

Last week in New York a girl walked past with a lot of eye make-up.
My mind went straight to this:

https://clip.cafe/ferris-buellers-day-off-1986/you-wear-too-much-eye-makeup/

I was walking by myself pissing myself.

 

[sweetchoif]

Regardless of what anyone thinks of Malthouse, I think he was kind of right when it came to the captaincy. Murphy wasn't really 'built' for the role. And Carrots would have been a superb captain if he hadn't just had triplets and his body hadn't begun to break down. But hard to see the wisdom in telling Murphy this, unless it was unavoidable.

Whether he is right or not, is not really relevant. If a decision was made to groom a younger player into the captaincy role, his first action as a coach and leader of the club should have been to motivate and ensure Murph was put in the right position to succeed in the role. Rocking up to your incumbent captain and saying "you werent my first choice' would have been demoralising and a decent hit to a young player's confidence.

Really just goes to show that Malthouse was more concerned about letting people know he was right and getting his own way than fostering a winning culture at the club. What on earth was he thinking......

 

[AlecDuncan]

Murph confirmed everything I thought about the Malthouse era. No wonder we had a mini exodus.

 

[RPCB]

Murph confirmed everything I thought about the Malthouse era. No wonder we had a mini exodus.

The more you learn about that period, the more you see that it was a farcical appointment.

And sadly, there would have been many of us and I am embarrassed to admit I was one of them that would have been overjoyed at the appointment of Malthouse to our club because of his coaching record. Fast forward half a decade and you see that not only did we sack a good Carlton man but we hired the worst possible person for our club. Yuck.

 

[footyfan1978]

Murph confirmed everything I thought about the Malthouse era. No wonder we had a mini exodus.

I feel sad for good people like Murphy to have to go through so much crap in their career because the people in charge of club were so terrible for most of his career there. Incredible loyalty all things considered. He deserved so much better.

 

[Choc Milk]

Why? Because he doesn't yell or doesn't smash into opposition players.

The role is about so much more than that and guys like Cripps and Docherty rave about Murph as captain.

Yeh they rave about Murphy, but honestly I wouldn't be taking their recommendation on anything just yet. Neither of them have won shit and they haven't exhibited anything on-field leadership wise either.


Not commenting on his cancer battle as that is something completely different. He has been extremely brave throughout that. This was a purely football comment

 

[Choc Milk]

Murph confirmed everything I thought about the Malthouse era. No wonder we had a mini exodus.

Yes, Murphy is right and Malthouse one of the greatest coaches of all time is wrong

 

[bigblueboy]

I feel sad for good people like Murphy to have to go through so much crap in their career because the people in charge of club were so terrible for most of his career there. Incredible loyalty all things considered. He deserved so much better.

Good call.

 

[footyfan1978]

The more you learn about that period, the more you see that it was a farcical appointment.

And sadly, there would have been many of us and I am embarrassed to admit I was one of them that would have been overjoyed at the appointment of Malthouse to our club because of his coaching record. Fast forward half a decade and you see that not only did we sack a good Carlton man but we hired the worst possible person for our club. Yuck.

Least you admit the delusional judgement of those times.
I admire that willingness to own it by you.
Classy stuff imo.

 

[RPCB]

Least you admit the delusional judgement of those times.
I admire that willingness to own it by you.
Classy stuff imo.

I just hope ther can be a time in the future that Ratts makes a return to Carlton.

 

[gandaal]

The club was so toxic that the captain of the club didn't want to be there.

Great job to all involved