Opinion The I Was Wrong thread- Where Tom Atkins posts go to die

[Cursed Cat]

OK, so here's how wrong I was:

My counter-argument to paying the draft-pick price to acquire Jeremy Cameron

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Jeremy Cameron

Age

32

Ht

196cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.6

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

2.0

5star

was based around my belief - still not disproven! (ok; public apologies are hard) - that we needed to rejuvenate our list by emulating the list-building approach that formed the core of our 3-time premiership winning teams of 2007, 09 and '11.

I thought that our strong hand at the draft was our first opportunity in a long time to really make hay at the draft; my hope was that we would go back to the well again in the '21 or '22 drafts with enough strong picks to roughly replicate the net effect of the 1999 and 2001 drafts.

That was my dream.

I have always loved Jeremy Cameron

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Jeremy Cameron

Age

32

Ht

196cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.6

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

2.0

5star

as a footballer; he was exactly the type of footballer that I was resentful a phony club like the Giants could jag so blithely; a young (at the time) super-talented key forward with genuine x-factor. I know that if I looked hard enough I'd be on record as praising him on this board circa 2013.

Anyway - I didn't want to pay the price, and I have publicly argued that point on this very board.

I was wrong.

I always knew he could play, but the question was; could he deliver?
He has delivered. He didn't win us a flag off his own boot by any means.
But he has played a massive part in transforming this team.

 

[dazbroncos]

Mark "running patterns" Blitz is a Premiership player.
Zac " too small " Zuthrie s a Premiership player.
Tom " VFL listed " Atkins s a Premiership player.
Brad " Cant kick a snap goal" s a Premiership player.
Mark "list clogger" O Connor s a Premiership player.
Jed " not enough possessions " Bews is a Premiership player.
Zac "not worth the pick upgrade" Touhy s a Premiership player.
Rhys " hack " Stanley is a Premiership player.
Gryan " short step" Miers is a Premiership player.
Jezza " too many picks" Cameron
Joel "cant lead the club and sets a bad example" Selwood is a 4 time Premiership player.

The list goes on...


there should be a parade thru here but it wont happen.....

May be just maybe the blokes at the club know exactly what the **** they are doing. They are gonna miss sometimes for sure... but not as much ass people make them out to

GO CAtters

 

[Warhorse]

Mark "running patterns" Blitz is a Premiership player.
Zac " too small " Zuthrie s a Premiership player.
Tom " VFL listed " Atkins s a Premiership player.
Brad " Cant kick a snap goal" s a Premiership player.
Mark "list clogger" O Connor s a Premiership player.
Jed " not enough possessions " Bews is a Premiership player.
Zac "not worth the pick upgrade" Touhy s a Premiership player.
Rhys " hack " Stanley is a Premiership player.
Gryan " short step" Miers is a Premiership player.
Jezza " too many picks" Cameron
Joel "cant lead the club and sets a bad example" Selwood is a 4 time Premiership player.

The list goes on...


there should be a parade thru here but it wont happen.....

May be just maybe the blokes at the club know exactly what the * they are doing. They are gonna miss sometimes for sure... but not as much ass people make them out to

GO CAtters

The fact you are listing players rather than personnel running the club...

Let's enjoy the win

 

[catempire]

I wanted Jake Kolodjashnij

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Jake Kolodjashnij

Age

30

Ht

193cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.4

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

148.5

2star

D

10.6

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.6

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

1.2

2star

MG

115.6

2star

D

11.8

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

6.4

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.2

5star

MG

69.4

1star

out of the side a mere three weeks ago.

 

[Cursed Cat]

I wanted Jake Kolodjashnij out of the side a mere three weeks ago.

Finals are such capstones on players careers.

1 Premiership has justified every up and down we've had with Kolo.

That's fair.

 

[Vdubs]

Finals are such capstones on players careers.

1 Premiership has justified every up and down we've had with Kolo.

That's fair.

A brilliant prelim as well. A fit Kolo is an integral part of our defence for many years yet. Love him.

 

[Vdubs]

After 8-9 rounds this season, with losses to Hawks, Swans, Freo, and Saints, I really thought we were no better than a MIDDLE OF THE ROAD team. No way did I foresee what we have done this year,
STUNNING.
16 consecutive wins with a flag.
We have gone from that inauspicious start, to the most powerhouse team of the year, and possibly rivalling the 07 team.
Yes, I was way off.

 

[CharacterFirst]

After 8-9 rounds this season, with losses to Hawks, Swans, Freo, and Saints, I really thought we were no better than a MIDDLE OF THE ROAD team. No way did I foresee what we have done this year,
STUNNING.
16 consecutive wins with a flag.
We have gone from that inauspicious start, to the most powerhouse team of the year, and possibly rivalling the 07 team.
Yes, I was way off.

You weren't on your Pat Malone there, Vdubs.

 

[CatRiot]

I wanted Jake Kolodjashnij out of the side a mere three weeks ago.

Played career best form when it counted.

Like many others this finals series, just playing at great levels.

I was watching Atkins at the clearances, and I could see why they preferred him over Parfitt at the centre bounces at times. Does a lot of the hard stuff behind the scene. And Parfitt is no slouch either.

 

[David the Cat]

Finals are such capstones on players careers.

1 Premiership has justified every up and down we've had with Kolo.

That's fair.

Kolo was very good agsin in the GF...I was critical...not any more.

 

[The Casey Cat]

I wanted Jake Kolodjashnij

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Jake Kolodjashnij

Age

30

Ht

193cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.4

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

148.5

2star

D

10.6

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.6

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

1.2

2star

MG

115.6

2star

D

11.8

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

6.4

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.2

5star

MG

69.4

1star

out of the side a mere three weeks ago.

Same.

 

[Footy Smarts]

I didn't think Danger could adapt his game for finals. I saw his desire to put the team on his back as a major weakness as under the increased pressure he made so many clangers, fumbles and defensive mistakes that despite decent stats he rarely had a positive impact. Huge credit to his last 2 performances. Immense on the inside, quality distribution to teammates and really good decision making. Superb and unlucky not to win the Norm Smith.

 

[year of the cat]

I wanted Jake Kolodjashnij out of the side a mere three weeks ago.

Same. Z.Guthrie to be delisted last year. Scott to be gone. I’m sure the list is longer…

 

[Seeds]

Recruiting older players could keep the team up for this long.

im still not convinced this can be done indefinately without a massive crash. But its lasted far far longer then i thought possible.

 

[Footy Smarts]

I wanted Jake Kolodjashnij out of the side a mere three weeks ago.

To be fair I reckon fans deserve a pass on picking the best 22 late this year. It was almost impossible to see who would miss out.

And the fringe players who were thrown up as those possibly missing out were awesome in finals. Kolo, Rohan, Miers, Zuthrie. O'Connor had a really good GF with perhaps the defining moment being that run down.

It was impossible to not leave out somebody who in hindsight made us look a bit silly especially since I don't think anyone saw Parfitt being left out.

 

[thecatattack]

I was wrong about Kolo, Rhys, Rohan, Scott. Didn't think we'd be in this position with them.

 

[Warhorse]

Recruiting older players could keep the team up for this long.

im still not convinced this can be done indefinately without a massive crash. But its lasted far far longer then i thought possible.

Yep. Same with me. It was bringing in our young players and fringe that ignited out season though. Could tell change was in the air when dahlhause and Higgins were no longer getting a game.

 

[Willo_]

How do I link 50% of my bf posts and about 90% of my post loss tweets to here?

 

[Hinkley29]

Recruiting older players could keep the team up for this long.

im still not convinced this can be done indefinately without a massive crash. But its lasted far far longer then i thought possible.

How many years do you need to be convinced?

will 20 years suffice?

 

[Hinkley29]

I was wrong about miers. I didint think he could be a consistent contributor in meaningful games.

I was absolutely dead wrong.

 

[PhatBoy]

Nice to see people fronting up.

I don’t get much right with my footy appraisals and predictions or across sport in general but I felt very smug yesterday having told anyone who would listen for most of this year that we could win the comp

 

[Pivo]

I am 100% certain I went on record about not rating Tom Stewart when we first got him....in fact I think there is a recording of it somewhere

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

I said that anyone who thought the game would be a walk in the park had rocks in their heads.
I was wrong.

I didn’t think we would win another flag under Scott.
I was wrong.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I didn't think Danger could adapt his game for finals. I saw his desire to put the team on his back as a major weakness as under the increased pressure he made so many clangers, fumbles and defensive mistakes that despite decent stats he rarely had a positive impact. Huge credit to his last 2 performances. Immense on the inside, quality distribution to teammates and really good decision making. Superb and unlucky not to win the Norm Smith.

Smith was an absolutely deserved norm winner,3 goals when the heat was on and nearly 800m gained, he was absolutely dominant. But i agree on the rest-danger was the 2nd best player on the ground and i didnt think he had that in him with where his body was at and his age-i was wrong.

 

[Dink]

I thought we paid overs for Cameron, thought Zac was a lost cause, thought Close and Atkins were just list cloggers and thought we wouldn’t see another premiership under Chris Scott

Chris Scott

Age

49

Ht

182cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.2

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

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I was wrong and I’m so happy about it