The Luke Jackson trade.

[WalshistheGOAT]

An athletic specimen with not an iota of forward craft, a decent but undersized ruck and a poor overhead mark with hands like cement. Has there ever been a worse list management decision in recent times? Freo lose Lobb, Acres and Logue who while no world beaters all solid citizens in a finals team with good future prospects. All for a bloke that played 5 minutes of good football in a grand final with two of the best midfielders of this generation probably making him look a bit better than he was.

The draft picks they gave up for him... Last year's pick 13 and this year's first and second which could end up being a top 7-8 and sub 30 pick this year if Freo continue to stink it up. On top of that has a contract rivalling Brodie Grundy

4

Brodie Grundy

Age

30

Ht

202cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

9.6

5star

CL

4.1

5star

HO

32.0

5star

D

16.4

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

9.6

5star

CL

4.0

5star

HO

34.6

5star

D

13.8

4star

K

5.2

2star

HB

8.6

5star

CL

2.6

5star

HO

20.6

5star

despite being a quarter of the player Grundy once was.

I simply cannot remember a worse trade in recent times... Bowes you could argue that Gold Coast simply needed to do it and had a surplus of picks regardless of how ridiculous it seemed. Maybe Gibbs? That may have turned out, but Adelaide went and blew up their list by going on their looneyville camp which meant the Gibbs acquisition was basically useless and hamstrung their future because of it.

For a club that hasn't been able to snatch a premiership since their inception could this set them back another decade?

Discuss.

 

[Fork n Hell]

An athletic specimen with not an iota of forward craft, a decent but undersized ruck and a poor overhead mark with hands like cement. Has there ever been a worse list management decision in recent times? Freo lose Lobb, Acres and Logue who while no world beaters all solid citizens in a finals team with good future prospects. All for a bloke that played 5 minutes of good football in a grand final with two of the best midfielders of this generation probably making him look a bit better than he was.

The draft picks they gave up for him... Last year's pick 13 and this year's first and second which could end up being a top 7-8 and sub 30 pick this year if Freo continue to stink it up. On top of that has a contract rivalling Brodie Grundy despite being a quarter of the player Grundy once was.

I simply cannot remember a worse trade in recent times... Bowes you could argue that Gold Coast simply needed to do it and had a surplus of picks regardless of how ridiculous it seemed. Maybe Gibbs? That may have turned out, but Adelaide went and blew up their list by going on their looneyville camp which meant the Gibbs acquisition was basically useless and hamstrung their future because of it.

For a club that hasn't been able to snatch a premiership since their inception could this set them back another decade?

Discuss.

i dunno, i'm pretty happy with it so far.

 

[Quinz]

I think future trading in general has inflated the value of player trades. Generally it feels like most big trades end up favouring the side losing the player. Wonder if that will start to swing back the other way.

 

[Quinz]

Also it's 2 games in, plenty of time for Jackson to improve. But there was a bit of discussion last year that it seemed like fitting two young, high paid ruckmen who don't have a lot of forward craft into the team was going to be difficult.

 

[Jibroni]

Early days but Freos style of play is putrid compared to what Luke experienced at the Dees. He will be a good player for them once they figure out a game plan which is not the most boring in Australia.

 

[Freomaniac]

Yeah I knew this thread was coming. I wasnt a fan of the trade.

Also.... This could end up worse than the Jesse Hogan

23

Jesse Hogan

Age

29

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.0

4star

K

9.3

4star

HB

5.7

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

1.4

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

10.3

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.3

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

0.0

1star

G

0.0

1star

D

13.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

6.4

5star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.8

5star

trade

 

[HalloweenJack]

Early days to make this call. Freo probably paid overs but it was Jackson going into the centre square that turned the 2021 Grand Final. He should be the number 1 ruck.

 

[maskmcgee]

Send tall forward to Freo, they turn to s**t. That's just what happens. Hogan, McCarthy, Lobb, Jackson. Sure someone will say Lobb wasn't, he kicked 67 goals in 66 games for Freo, which probably would be the worst return for any key forward in the league over that time.

 

[Red Bull]

I think future trading in general has inflated the value of player trades. Generally it feels like most big trades end up favouring the side losing the player. Wonder if that will start to swing back the other way.

The cats paid a motza for Cameron and wouldn’t be disappointed.
Damn near the perfect game on Thursday night too …

 

[Shane Heard]

An athletic specimen with not an iota of forward craft, a decent but undersized ruck and a poor overhead mark with hands like cement. Has there ever been a worse list management decision in recent times? Freo lose Lobb, Acres and Logue who while no world beaters all solid citizens in a finals team with good future prospects. All for a bloke that played 5 minutes of good football in a grand final with two of the best midfielders of this generation probably making him look a bit better than he was.

The draft picks they gave up for him... Last year's pick 13 and this year's first and second which could end up being a top 7-8 and sub 30 pick this year if Freo continue to stink it up. On top of that has a contract rivalling Brodie Grundy despite being a quarter of the player Grundy once was.

I simply cannot remember a worse trade in recent times... Bowes you could argue that Gold Coast simply needed to do it and had a surplus of picks regardless of how ridiculous it seemed. Maybe Gibbs? That may have turned out, but Adelaide went and blew up their list by going on their looneyville camp which meant the Gibbs acquisition was basically useless and hamstrung their future because of it.

For a club that hasn't been able to snatch a premiership since their inception could this set them back another decade?

Discuss.

Loonyville camp ..lol

 

[demondavey]

Jackson, it can be argued to an extent, won us the flag. His decimation of English was the key reason we got first hands and kicked something like 15 unanswered goals. To have someone do that when Gawn wasn’t playing well, I’d huge.

Has to play ruck. To call it a trade that’ll set them back 10 years is an absolute overreach. The kid is about 21-22. I’d be more concerned about the way Fremantle are going about their style. They are a literal nothing club whom have not achieved much at all.

Lots has to change, Jackson not their pressing issue.

 

[Belnakor]

The cats paid a motza for Cameron and wouldn’t be disappointed.
Damn near the perfect game on Thursday night too …

Even Cameron took awhile to get going at geelong. Thread is about 15 rounds too early.

 

[RAPPA]

The Freo game plan is not conducive to the Jackson type. Trying to fit a square peg into a round Longmuir hole.

 

[Bluelegs]

Really not sure why Freo are playing him the way they are. All of Jacksons talent was in his athleticism and mobility. He played as an extra midfielder for us. He looks slower than Tom McDonald

25

Tom Mcdonald

Age

31

Ht

195cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.4

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.7

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

261.8

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

0.6

1star

MG

135.6

2star

D

13.8

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

4star

with all the extra weight he's put on.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Jackson, it can be argued to an extent, won us the flag. His decimation of English was the key reason we got first hands and kicked something like 15 unanswered goals. To have someone do that when Gawn wasn’t playing well, I’d huge.

Has to play ruck. To call it a trade that’ll set them back 10 years is an absolute overreach. The kid is about 21-22. I’d be more concerned about the way Fremantle are going about their style. They are a literal nothing club whom have not achieved much at all.

Lots has to change, Jackson not their pressing issue.

10 years is probably hyperbole but for the price he came at it's certainly not going to help. And I agree that he needs to play number 1 ruck if he's going to be star player.

 

[demondavey]

10 years is probably hyperbole but for the price he came at it's certainly not going to help. And I agree that he needs to play number 1 ruck if he's going to be star player.

Very good player. You have to pay that much though to get these deals done.

 

[Bluelegs]

Jackson, it can be argued to an extent, won us the flag. His decimation of English was the key reason we got first hands and kicked something like 15 unanswered goals. To have someone do that when Gawn wasn’t playing well, I’d huge.

I've never agreed with this to a great extent. Only that the Dogs planned for Max Gawn and just didn't know how to deal with what Jackson was. He wasn't tapping it down our midfielders throats in those clearances, we just evened the contest and he had the agility to run with the rest of our mids. It wasn't like 2008 Stewie Dew or anything.

 

[demondavey]

I've never agreed with this to a great extent. Only that the Dogs planned for Max Gawn and just didn't know how to deal with what Jackson was. He wasn't tapping it down our midfielders throats in those clearances, we just evened the contest and he had the agility to run with the rest of our mids. It wasn't like 2008 Stewie Dew or anything.

He made English look like a fairy. Bullied him. Was huge.

 

[Trav 20]

I just want to congratulate Luke on taking his first mark for Fremantle.

 

[Hollow Knight]

I simply cannot remember a worse trade in recent times...

Collingwood trading Dayne Beams back in was pretty bad.

They gave up a two late first rounders for Beams and some late picks. He played 9 games, gave them a whole bunch of bad publicity, caused bikies to show up at Collingwood training to collect debts, allegedly stole money from teammates, and contributed heavily to a salary cap squeeze that led to them deciding to trade out Treloar and Stephenson.

 

[RandB]

How much coin is he on?

 

[Jobe Watson]

Freo already had a dominant solo ruck in Darcy. Unlike Gawn, Darcy is useless playing forward or behind the ball whenever Jackson goes into the ruck, so it's hard to see how they make it work unless Jackson can learn to have an impact playing 85% of the game forward. Trying for a 50/50 or even 60/40 split is just robbing Peter to pay Paul.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Even Cameron took awhile to get going at geelong. Thread is about 15 rounds too early.

Thread is about 5 years too early and will most likely backfire. But it’s funny to laugh at Freo so I’m with it.

 

[Red Bull]

Collingwood trading Dayne Beams back in was pretty bad.

They gave up a two late first rounders for Beams and some late picks. He played 9 games, gave them a whole bunch of bad publicity, caused bikies to show up at Collingwood training to collect debts, allegedly stole money from teammates, and contributed heavily to a salary cap squeeze that led to them deciding to trade out Treloar and Stephenson.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

How much coin is he on?

Rumoured to be 900k x 7 if I recall, but cannot confirm the accuracy of those reports.