Food, Drink & Dining Out The Perth Thread - Part 2

[Beerfish]

To be fair I googled it and the law only changed a few years ago and is different from state to state.

Not sure what other states do is relevant to the Perth thread. I guess it's nice that your thinking is only a few years behind though. /shrug

 

[Smeg Head]

The reality is people like Beerfish should also be banned from the roads.

 

[Scotland]

They should paint the Freeway different colours. One lane for bikes, one for motorbikes, the rest for cars.

You can mark it down that the cyclists wouldn't stay in their lane, the motorcyclists would ghost around other motorcyclists and encroach on the lanes around them and the motorists would sit there daydreaming about swerving over the lot of them.

 

[Beerfish]

The reality is people like Beerfish should also be banned from the roads.

Why's that?

Good driver that knows the rules. Probably part of the smallest group of road users anyway so if you were going to ban one group it would more than likely be the easiest way to go. [emoji4]

 

[JackOutback]

Okay ignore that and insert the dozens of other reasons then.

There aren't good reasons. Cars are registered based in part on weight to make a small contribution to road costs, bicycles weigh nothing and cause no damage to roads. Cars are registered because they are lethal weapons, bicycles are not. The cost of registering bicycle riders would greatly exceed any money you got back through registration and the bureaucracy required to register 1 million new bikes a year would be impractical. Most adult bike owners are also car owners and contribute in other ways. Do you register children's bikes, because that just seems silly. Do you put licence plates on them, because that's just impractical.

And for anyone who says, well, you can report a cyclist breaking the rules, think about how many times you've seen a car break the rules and how many times you reported them. Also, police can't just take your word and charge someone, they need evidence. If they see a cyclist breaking the law, they can charge them without registration required.

It's an absurd suggestion, driven mostly by people who see a cyclist skip through a red light and seethe at being stuck in congestion (something cyclists reduce). And even though they shouldn't do it, a cyclist breezing through a red light tends to act as a pedestrian, slow down and look before heading through, not ploughing through like a car would and killing someone. They are not comparable issues.

 

[Kram]

I wonder if anyone has ever got done for riding a push bike on the road drunk.

 

[Smeg Head]

I wonder if anyone has ever got done for riding a push bike on the road drunk.

A few on lawnmowers have if I recall right.

 

[craigos]

I wonder if anyone has ever got done for riding a push bike on the road drunk.

I'm sure Beerfish would make a citizens arrest if he saw this.

 

[Scotland]

Must be tag Beerfish day.

Beerfish.

 

[Smeg Head]

Feerbish

 

[Beerfish]

There aren't good reasons. Cars are registered based in part on weight to make a small contribution to road costs, bicycles weigh nothing and cause no damage to roads. Cars are registered because they are lethal weapons, bicycles are not. The cost of registering bicycle riders would greatly exceed any money you got back through registration and the bureaucracy required to register 1 million new bikes a year would be impractical. Most adult bike owners are also car owners and contribute in other ways. Do you register children's bikes, because that just seems silly. Do you put licence plates on them, because that's just impractical.

And for anyone who says, well, you can report a cyclist breaking the rules, think about how many times you've seen a car break the rules and how many times you reported them. Also, police can't just take your word and charge someone, they need evidence. If they see a cyclist breaking the law, they can charge them without registration required.

It's an absurd suggestion, driven mostly by people who see a cyclist skip through a red light and seethe at being stuck in congestion (something cyclists reduce). And even though they shouldn't do it, a cyclist breezing through a red light tends to act as a pedestrian, slow down and look before heading through, not ploughing through like a car would and killing someone. They are not comparable issues.

You said there were dozens of reasons but don't talk about any of them. I'm beginning to think you're not that keen on keeping cyclists off the road at all.

 

[Reynolds Number]

tbh what I hate is the dick-heads that drive big 4wds that have never seen an inch of a dirt road in their lives.

Especially when they drive like they can barely handle a Hyundai Getz.

 

[Beerfish]

Drove past a group of about 30 leotardies this morning all riding just outside the red, purpose built, just for them cycle path on the road so everyone still had to change lanes. Absolute campaigners.

 

[Scotland]

Dude they ride in a group because it's safer, gosh. It's the only option they have to be safe from cars........

 

[Beerfish]

Dude they ride in a group because it's safer, gosh. It's the only option they have to be safe from cars........

Why can't they ride single file in the lane that's been specifically created for them to use? It's like their own private road.

 

[Off The Couch]

Why can't they ride single file in the lane that's been specifically created for them to use? It's like their own private road.

Because they aren’t safe - the runoff from the rains apparently make it a minefield of trash, sand, branches etc.

I was informed of this by some “professionals” that were hogging all the chairs, sipping on their water at the local coffee shop

 

[Beerfish]

Because they aren’t safe - the runoff from the rains apparently make it a minefield of trash, sand, branches etc.

I was informed of this by some “professionals” that were hogging all the chairs, sipping on their water at the local coffee shop

LOL. What a load of shit.

 

[Scotland]

I must be a daredevil with scant regard for my own safety because given the choice between a purpose built cycle path and a road filled with Prado-driving mummy bloggers I pick the former.

 

[estibador]

tbh what I hate is the dick-heads that drive big 4wds that have never seen an inch of a dirt road in their lives.

They're always the w***ers who drive right up to the line at the T-junction when they're turning right too, which blocks the view of anyone turning left so they have to sit there for ages or risk turning blind out in front of oncoming traffic.

Show some consideration for your fellow drivers and stop a metre short of the line you self-absorbed dicks.

 

[Plugger35]

They're always the w***ers who drive right up to the line at the T-junction when they're turning right too, which blocks the view of anyone turning left so they have to sit there for ages or risk turning blind out in front of oncoming traffic.

Show some consideration for your fellow drivers and stop a metre short of the line you self-absorbed dicks.

The dicks that drive these 4WDs and SUVs often say that one of the reasons they drive them is that it gives them a better view of traffic while ignoring the fact that everyone else's view of traffic is worse due to them and they also tend to be some of the worst and least considerate drivers on the roads as they think they can do as they please since they have a bigger vehicle.

 

[Scholz Supremacy]

My two trips to Perth which have seen Port lose to lowly Fremantle sides have left me with this...Perth Traumatic Stress Disorder

 

[Power Raid]

I wonder if anyone has ever got done for riding a push bike on the road drunk.

A mate in the navy, from tassie, was one of three passengers in a car when the driver blew over .2.

The driver was taken away so they decided to drive home despite also being drunk. The cops were waiting around the corner, with the second driver blowing over .2.

The two remaining bright sparks decided to steal push bikes, riding around the corner only to be done for stealing and blowing over .2.

 

[Smeg Head]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-...tv-car-licence-plate-tracking-system/10011970

What an absolute crock of shit. I already hate CCTV, it gets sold as making people safer yet it doesn't stop anyone getting bashed or robbed and is quite often fooled just by a person looking down or wearing a hat/hood.

So the greenest leaning electorate/council also wants to be the most Orwellian.

 

[quotemokc]

The Fremantle council is wack

 

[Kram]

The dicks that drive these 4WDs and SUVs often say that one of the reasons they drive them is that it gives them a better view of traffic while ignoring the fact that everyone else's view of traffic is worse due to them and they also tend to be some of the worst and least considerate drivers on the roads as they think they can do as they please since they have a bigger vehicle.

Was funny a few years back when a Greens senator was found out as having a V8 Landcruiser as a 2nd car. What a hypocrite.