Food, Drink & Dining Out The Perth Thread - Part 2

[Kram]

I don't get the opposition to having to vote.

You don't have to vote in the US and look how that turned out. Only 58% of eligible voters bothered to vote and they ended up with Trump. Would not have taken that many votes to swing the election the other way via a couple of key seats and somewhere in the range of 50-100m people didn't vote.

In the country it takes about 2 minutes to complete the task, from memory in the city maybe 10 at most?

I don't think it's a big ask for people to go down and do it, and this is from someone that often just writes something stupid on the paper and puts it in.

The way I'm reading james Dean's post, or how I want to, is that it's a bit galling to tell every suburban arseh*le (who may have work, kids at sport, their only day off) to get out and vote (for a second time, in a lousy local election, through no one's fault but the party's all finger pointing) when the current party who are in power don't even bother running someone because it's just a waste of money and time.

In saying that I agree with this.

 

[Forward Press]

It's undemocratic to force people to vote in my opinion. I am guessing from your comment in bold you would be referring to laws and taxations? It's a point, but the reason we pay taxes is (supposedly) for public benefits.

Not just that, but jury duty, license to drive cars etc.

I understand the consternation at the Libs not running candidates but the best way to respond is via the ballot box. At the next election, direct your vote somewhere else in protest.

 

[Scotland]

In the country it takes about 2 minutes to complete the task, from memory in the city maybe 10 at most?

I don't think it's a big ask for people to go down and do it, and this is from someone that often just writes something stupid on the paper and puts it in.

I walk to the primary school, vote and grab a sausage sizzle raising money for the P&C (if it's for a political party **** that) then walk home. Really don't mind doing that once every couple of years. By-elections seem like a bit of a pain in the nuts, though. Especially when the sitting member just decides they don't want to do it any more.

 

[james Dean]

The way I'm reading james Dean's post, or how I want to, is that it's a bit galling to tell every suburban arseh*le (who may have work, kids at sport, their only day off) to get out and vote (for a second time, in a lousy local election, through no one's fault but the party's all finger pointing) when the current party who are in power don't even bother running someone because it's just a waste of money and time.

Now I'm in Freo and will never ever vote Liberal – I reckon Shorten is a gutless wonder and I'd even prefer Turnbull to him which makes me feel dirty but that's the mire of the Labor Party of today – but there is something very shitty about that. If the politicians aren't going to take it seriously why should anyone else?

Pretty much. I hate the LNP, I hate conservative politics in general, so I refuse out of principle to vote for a Liberal candidate. ALP however is as spineless as they come, the Greens are hilariously incompetent even if their hearts are in the right place, One Nation make me want to vomit, and Clive Palmer makes Donald Trump look sane.

What's left, the parties that make you chuckle at your ballot sheet?

Voting for the least shit is not a motivator. Get out there as candidates and convince people that voting is worth their time.

 

[quotemokc]

I guess it's a good system then.

 

[twotooto]

Speaking of jury duty - anyone got any tips on how to not get 'selected'? Already deferred once.

 

[gaskin]

Speaking of jury duty - anyone got any tips on how to not get 'selected'? Already deferred once.

It is random. I got selected and people who looked perfectly normal were challenged by the lawyers for no reason what-so-ever. Chances are you won't even get picked with the amount of people that rock up.

 

[james Dean]

It is random. I got selected and people who looked perfectly normal were challenged by the lawyers for no reason what-so-ever. Chances are you won't even get picked with the amount of people that rock up.

Lawyers will try and weed you out for various reasons depending on the charges against their client. Race, age, gender, occupation, education level are all factors they will take into account.

 

[Righteo]

Lawyers will try and weed you out for various reasons depending on the charges against their client. Race, age, gender, occupation, education level are all factors they will take into account.

 

[Billy ray]

Lawyers will try and weed you out for various reasons depending on the charges against their client. Race, age, gender, occupation, education level are all factors they will take into account.

Just wear a t shirt with either bob marley, charles manson, swastika, greens logo, isis, or suns logo and you should be right

 

[Forward Press]

I am one of the weird ones that would love jury duty - I've never been called up.

 

[Forward Press]

Just wear a t shirt with either bob marley, charles manson, swastika, greens logo, isis, or suns logo and you should be right

A reggae-listening, serial killer worshipping, pot-smoking Islamic Nazi? Sounds possible.

However I doubt there are Suns supporters in real life.

 

[ioppolo]

Depends on the case for me, anything to do with children being hurt or abused would be hard to take

 

[Kram]

I am one of the weird ones that would love jury duty - I've never been called up.

Depends on the case, I'd imagine most white collar crimes would be boring as **** to sit through.

 

[gaskin]

Mine was grievous bodily harm. The case was okay if a little boring as I knew pretty much in the 1st hour I was going not guilty. The real boredom comes from the hour or so that the judge explains the law surrounding the case to the jury before going in to deliberate.

 

[quotemokc]

I am one of the weird ones that would love jury duty - I've never been called up.

I got called up and got selected for a weapons and threatening case.

However the defendant changed his pleading to guilty on the 2nd day and that was it.

 

[Silent Alarm]

Do they give you cash? I'm like unemployed atm, so it'd be income for me!

 

[Billy ray]

Imagine getting the Claremont case (if it goes to a jury). There’s 6-12 months of your life in a jury box

 

[twotooto]

I am one of the weird ones that would love jury duty - I've never been called up.

Yeah, it could be sort of interesting, I suppose. I've been going through potential cases that would pique my interest and make it worthwhile.

For example, Gillon McLachlan for impersonating a CEO, or maybe Troy Buswell in Seatgate, something like that.

 

[quotemokc]

Imagine getting the Claremont case (if it goes to a jury). There’s 6-12 months of your life in a jury box

Be pretty good if you had a crap job

 

[twotooto]

Do they give you cash? I'm like unemployed atm, so it'd be income for me!

Says on the summons that your employer has to continue to pay your wages(they get reimbursed) so I presume you'd need to be working to get paid.

 

[Van_Dyke]

Imagine getting the Claremont case (if it goes to a jury). There’s 6-12 months of your life in a jury box

the worst would be if you were a juror that sat on the jury for the case, but then wasn’t one of the 12 for the deliberation.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Looking at the radar Perth is getting off lightly, the really heavy stuff is down around Mandurah.

Are we still talking about weather?

 

[gaskin]

Do they give you cash? I'm like unemployed atm, so it'd be income for me!

Yes but it is only something like $30-40 a day as your employer is to keep paying you if you are missing work to be there. You also get reimbursed public transport costs IIRC. You don't get paid if you are a Government employee though.

 

[Plugger35]

It is random. I got selected and people who looked perfectly normal were challenged by the lawyers for no reason what-so-ever. Chances are you won't even get picked with the amount of people that rock up.

I did jury duty about 8 years ago, thought I was going to get out of it initially as the jury was selected from our pool of people and I missed out, then one of the lawyers challenged some young scruffy looking bloke that got selected and I got the call up as the replacement, was spewing.

Thankfully my case was only a few days but the deliberations took longer than they should have due to a few morons not being able to get their heads around the concept of needing proof beyond a reasonable doubt for a guilty verdict, there simply wasn't enough evidence to give anything but a not guilty verdict.