The Perth Thread

[BALKAN]

Maybe the tray is submerged

 

[Keys]

Maybe the tray is submerged

Nah there's other photos

Definitely not a ute

 

[Kram]

I also have a house built in the 1960s and some of the electrics are somewhat less than BHP standard.

Sparkies tend to look at old houses and see $ signs. 'Well I can't replace that without changing all of this...'

60s cabling should really still be holding up fine. Also I'd never tell anyone to re-wire their house unless they definitely needed to, it's generally a prick of a job and one I'd imagine many would just want to avoid.

edit - unless they are talking upgrading the switchboard from old fuses to breakers and RCDs, that's actually worthwhile if you can afford it.

 

[Off The Couch]

60s cabling should really still be holding up fine. Also I'd never tell anyone to re-wire their house unless they definitely needed to, it's generally a prick of a job and one I'd imagine many would just want to avoid.

edit - unless they are talking upgrading the switchboard from old fuses to breakers and RCDs, that's actually worthwhile if you can afford it.

Aren't you required by law to report any faulty wiring regardless of whether you end up doing the job or not. I'm sure a guy we know said this was one of the reasons he hated going out to old homes

 

[Biggie]

 

[Scotland]

60s cabling should really still be holding up fine. Also I'd never tell anyone to re-wire their house unless they definitely needed to, it's generally a prick of a job and one I'd imagine many would just want to avoid.

edit - unless they are talking upgrading the switchboard from old fuses to breakers and RCDs, that's actually worthwhile if you can afford it.

I've upgraded my board to RCDs. I have a mate who is a sparky who did that for me.

I got rid of an old ceiling mounted extraction fan and installed a rangehood. The fan was plugged in to an outlet in the roof cavity with some dodgy looking wires and the outlet wired back to a light switch in the kitchen (double, one switch for the light and one for the fan). Not sure that'd pass 2016 standards.

 

[Carl Hooper]

60s cabling should really still be holding up fine. Also I'd never tell anyone to re-wire their house unless they definitely needed to, it's generally a prick of a job and one I'd imagine many would just want to avoid.

edit - unless they are talking upgrading the switchboard from old fuses to breakers and RCDs, that's actually worthwhile if you can afford it.

60s cabling is usually a rewire.. anything with 'train tracks' or cotton insulation is a rewire.

Kram one of them old sparkies who cant touch his toes lel

 

[Carl Hooper]

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I ended up getting a 2n2 roster... mate got me a job.

 

[Freofalcon]

60s cabling should really still be holding up fine. Also I'd never tell anyone to re-wire their house unless they definitely needed to, it's generally a prick of a job and one I'd imagine many would just want to avoid.

edit - unless they are talking upgrading the switchboard from old fuses to breakers and RCDs, that's actually worthwhile if you can afford it.

Not really. I go through a few houses that have been wired in the '70's and find that all the light fittings don't have an earth.

I tell them a rewire is required to come up to current standards and if they choose not to go ahead with it it I just tick the box that says electrical work done by others.

You can't make people pay for what is needed. You just need to cover your arse.

 

[Scotland]

Yeah my lighting circuit doesn't have an earth.

 

[Freofalcon]

I also have a house built in the 1960s and some of the electrics are somewhat less than BHP standard.

Sparkies tend to look at old houses and see $ signs. 'Well I can't replace that without changing all of this...'

Not true.

There are standards now that didn't apply when certain houses or buildings were built.

As an Electrician, I have a duty of care to inform an occupant of works required to bring an establishment up to code.

To be honest, I'm looking out for myself more than worrying about their electrical works.
If they choose to ignore my opinion, I just have to tick a box.

No skin off my nose.

 

[Freofalcon]

Yeah my lighting circuit doesn't have an earth.

Its because the standard of the time deemed non accessible fittings ie: if you couldn't touch them, didn't need to be earthed.
Not the case anymore. Even low volt light fittings require an earth at the point of connection.

 

[Scotland]

I think we're making the same point, but from different angles.

It's a pain in the arse being required to bring things up to standards they weren't designed to.

 

[Kram]

Not really. I go through a few houses that have been wired in the '70's and find that all the light fittings don't have an earth.

I tell them a rewire is required to come up to current standards and if they choose not to go ahead with it it I just tick the box that says electrical work done by others.

You can't make people pay for what is needed. You just need to cover your arse.

I was more talking about the standard and condition of the TPS cabling in them. My old 60s house doesn't have earths at any earths at the plastic lamp holders, but all the original metal fittings do have one.

 

[Kram]

60s cabling is usually a rewire.. anything with 'train tracks' or cotton insulation is a rewire.

Kram one of them old sparkies who cant touch his toes lel

I thought that the rubber and cotton stuff on tracks that often almost falls apart in your hands was a bit older than that..

 

[Mr_Bojangles]

So the WA Government didn't succeed in killing kids at Elizabeth Quay so they're now trying to do it at the new children's hospital?

 

[The Speaker]

So the WA Government didn't succeed in killing kids at Elizabeth Quay so they're now trying to do it at the new children's hospital?

if by wa govt you mean the sub contractor that john holland brought in, then yes

 

[Scotland]

It must be a left/right issue. It must!

 

[Keys]

Yeah hard to see how it's the governments fault that a large construction company with a lot of experience in large construction projects made a mistake/cut some corners

I'd like to know just how much asbestos is in the panels and how dangerous they really are. There may be a bit of hysteria around this fuelled by a union that has had its share of conflict with the head contractor

 

[Scotland]

Surely the Australian Standards don't allow asbestos as a building material in 2016?

 

[Scotland]

The political mileage is to say the govt cut corners by using cheap, imported materials and dey took errr jerrrrbs.

 

[Kram]

Surely the Australian Standards don't allow asbestos as a building material in 2016?

I thought white the last type to be banned in Australia happened back in 80s.

 

[Smeg Head]

Surely the Australian Standards don't allow asbestos as a building material in 2016?

This is what happens with the lowest bid on supplies from China where they couldn't give a rats arse what goes into it.

 

[JoseMourinho]

I think this will basically tell the building industry to not use Chinese materials. Even the aviation industry has completely avoided any parts coming from China due to the low quality of it.

 

[IKnowtheDog]