The Perth Thread

[Teriyakicat]

I know occasionally noise laws get in the way of 'just starting early', but if you do have to get up at like 5am it so much nicer not being dark.

When I first started work in Kalgoorlie, it was absolutely AMAZING leaving home a bit after 4 and walking through the early dawn, watching the sun rise, and getting out to where I was working by the time the sun had risen (didn't think about snakes or anything as I tramped through the bush ). I walked back home again by about 6pm, just as things were cooling down again.

I guess, had we had DS, I'd have left after 5 and got back by 7pm - it's easy when you don't have to clock watch.

I found the hardest thing about DS was when I had kids. Getting them accustomed to the adjusted time was a real pain- hard to get them out of bed in the gloom of the early mornings and hard to get them to sleep when it was full sunlight outside. Maybe if we had DS for Dec-Feb or something, it wouldn't have been as hard as it was.

There are good arguments for both sides- the DS and anti-DS people. A lot of people like getting up early for a swim or a run in the cool of the morning, going back home for a shower and to get ready for work. Others prefer to maybe walk in the evening- but if you have school kids, that is often difficult to fit that around mealtimes and other things needing doing in the evenings. It depends on the structure of their family, as to what people prefer, doesn't it?

 

[Smeg Head]

When I first started work in Kalgoorlie, it was absolutely AMAZING leaving home a bit after 4 and walking through the early dawn, watching the sun rise, and getting out to where I was working by the time the sun had risen (didn't think about snakes or anything as I tramped through the bush ). I walked back home again by about 6pm, just as things were cooling down again.

I guess, had we had DS, I'd have left after 5 and got back by 7pm - it's easy when you don't have to clock watch.

I found the hardest thing about DS was when I had kids. Getting them accustomed to the adjusted time was a real pain- hard to get them out of bed in the gloom of the early mornings and hard to get them to sleep when it was full sunlight outside. Maybe if we had DS for Dec-Feb or something, it wouldn't have been as hard as it was.

There are good arguments for both sides- the DS and anti-DS people. A lot of people like getting up early for a swim or a run in the cool of the morning, going back home for a shower and to get ready for work. Others prefer to maybe walk in the evening- but if you have school kids, that is often difficult to fit that around mealtimes and other things needing doing in the evenings. It depends on the structure of their family, as to what people prefer, doesn't it?

It one of those things that you either personally like or hate depending on your situation. Its just stupid that every single year we have to hear the same tired old bullshit about it, even when it recently got voted down. At least here I can't see any hugely big advantages for or against it, its pointless.

 

[Teriyakicat]

It one of those things that you either personally like or hate depending on your situation. Its just stupid that every single year we have to hear the same tired old bullshit about it, even when it recently got voted down. At least here I can see any hugely big advantages for or against it, its pointless.

Yeah that's true. I think it's put to a vote every 20 years or so, which is fair enough, but didn't we have a 3 year trial last time? If you can't make your mind up after 1 year, you'd have to be pretty slow. I would hate to have another trial and referendum in 2 years' time.

I'm still getting over Emperor Barnett over-riding the results of the Sunday Trading referendum. A referendum that I went to great pains to vote at, despite its inconvenience, and I was extremely pissed off that it was basically ignored. What a waste of money and time that was!!

 

[Smeg Head]

Yeah that's true. I think it's put to a vote every 20 years or so, which is fair enough, but didn't we have a 3 year trial last time? If you can't make your mind up after 1 year, you'd have to be pretty slow. I would hate to have another trial and referendum in 2 years' time.

I'm still getting over Emperor Barnett over-riding the results of the Sunday Trading referendum. A referendum that I went to great pains to vote at, despite its inconvenience, and I was extremely pissed off that it was basically ignored. What a waste of money and time that was!!

The trading laws were a mess either way. Some could open, others couldnt even selling the same shit. Then there was places on federal land under different laws again.

And yeah we did have a 3 year trial. Sucked if you wanted to get a early nights sleep (with no A/C) and it was still 35+ degrees.

 

[kfc1]

Did you vote against Sunday trading?

 

[Beerfish]

I was definitely against DS. I can't remember why but I was absolutely against after trying it for another 3 years.

 

[Illinois Nazi]

I was all for it before the trial. After the first year I was a definite no.

 

[Teriyakicat]

Did you vote against Sunday trading?

Yep. I chose no because it didn't suit my family.
I was brought up with it and it never bothered me as a kid, so either way I would've adjusted.

Would have HAD to.

 

[chunkylover]

Wasnt it a 65-35 split for DLS in the metro area but the 10-90 split in country areas meant it didnt get in. Cant see the country folk changing their minds. I voted against it cause i didnt care and the melts from the pro DLS folk are so so good. Now im for it as i have kids now and as soon the suns up theyre up and that will be 5am soon. Urrgggh

 

[Beerfish]

I voted against it cause i didnt care and the melts from the pro DLS folk are so so good. Now im for it as i have kids now and as soon the suns up theyre up and that will be 5am soon. Urrgggh

Dat karma bus.

 

[Kram]

Not having all the shops open on Sunday was just so ridiculous and inconvenient, especially if you were working long hours and the only time you could shop was a madly busy Thursday night or Saturday.

Been through both trials and hate daylight savings with a passion. No doubt in another 10 years or so another idiot politician will try and introduce it again even though most people don't want it.

 

[Beerfish]

No doubt in another 10 years or so another idiot politician will try and introduce it again even though most people don't want it.

I think as long as there is a call for it from the business community (and there always will be) it will never go away permanently. We should at least have a few more years though before it's getting seriously bandied about again. A three year trial is pretty comprehensive.

 

[The Speaker]

Not having all the shops open on Sunday was just so ridiculous and inconvenient, especially if you were working long hours and the only time you could shop was a madly busy Thursday night or Saturday.

Then we should change our society to enable a collective rest on Sunday, rather than destroying the day of rest.

 

[Silent Alarm]

Then we should change our society to enable a collective rest on Sunday, rather than destroying the day of rest.

I know you're hardcore religious but seriously...

 

[The Speaker]

I know you're hardcore religious but seriously...

'But seriously' what? Regardless of being a Biblical concept, it is entirely healthy for a society to do these things. The market should not rule over the people.

 

[kfc1]

Not having all the shops open on Sunday was just so ridiculous and inconvenient, especially if you were working long hours and the only time you could shop was a madly busy Thursday night or Saturday.

Agree. Still hate the fact that the shops close at 5 on a Saturday & Sunday.
Thank Galati for Spudshed.

 

[Silent Alarm]

'But seriously' what? Regardless of being a Biblical concept, it is entirely healthy for a society to do these things. The market should not rule over the people.

No it isn't. It's absolutely insane that you can't buy some milk on a Sunday if you run out. Or that, working 9-5, you only have Saturday to buy some jeans. People have busy lives and a government mandating rest days is some kind of dystopia-masquerading-as-utopia insanity. Also, some people have different schedules and the idea of 'resting' on a Sunday is totally counter-productive to the economy and themselves.

It's just ****ing stupid and outdated.

And hey, why don't we have Wednesday as the rest day? Or Saturday? Why do we have to follow these ****ing Christian concepts?

 

[Teriyakicat]

Agree. Still hate the fact that the shops close at 5 on a Saturday & Sunday.
Thank Galati for Spudshed.

Oh but you can't buy a couch or a stereo at Dudshed!

 

[kfc1]

Oh but you can't buy a couch or a stereo at Dudshed!

It's a start. Unsurprisingly I don't need to buy a new couch or stereo as often as I need groceries, so the inconvenience on the former is less.

 

[Teriyakicat]

No it isn't. It's absolutely insane that you can't buy some milk on a Sunday if you run out.

Maybe try planning a bit better. An adult who has NFI how much milk they need over the course of a day or over the weekend probably has NFI about too much else, either.

 

[Teriyakicat]

It's a start. Unsurprisingly I don't need to buy a new couch or stereo as often as I need groceries, so the inconvenience on the former is less.

By the sound of the whinging about shops not being open on a weekend*, you'd think that people were buying couches and stereos every second week!


*shoppers in general- I don't know how much whinging happens here on BF about it.

 

[Smeg Head]

Maybe try planning a bit better. An adult who has NFI how much milk they need over the course of a day or over the weekend probably has NFI about too much else, either.

Some people get stuck working 7-5 Mon-Sat in busy periods. The 7pm weekday closing for supermarkets was a godsend for me, actually had a chance to pop in for stuff once I made it home.

 

[kane249]

Oh but you can't buy a couch or a stereo at Dudshed!

Aisle 6

 

[The Speaker]

No it isn't. It's absolutely insane that you can't buy some milk on a Sunday if you run out. Or that, working 9-5, you only have Saturday to buy some jeans. People have busy lives and a government mandating rest days is some kind of dystopia-masquerading-as-utopia insanity. Also, some people have different schedules and the idea of 'resting' on a Sunday is totally counter-productive to the economy and themselves..

How incredible that you think a collective day for rest and recreation is dystopic. What does your world consist of?

That you think it's counter-productive to 'the economy' and them themselves, as though they are merely an extension of the market, speaks volumes about what you see as being the place of humans.

It's just ******* stupid and outdated.

'It's outdated' is a classic argument that means absolutely nothng.

And hey, why don't we have Wednesday as the rest day? Or Saturday? Why do we have to follow these ******* Christian concepts?

You can try doing it on another day, but as our society was built around Christianity we still have structures in place that would make it easiest to be on a Sunday.

 

[BALKAN]

Lol @ people being against Sunday trading. #JustPerthThings