The problem for left wing politics in Australia

[NSWCROW]

Wrong.

Just another one of the myths that stops the Left from growing up and making rational decisions.

Refute it then , don't just spout your usual glib s**t

 

[Frank Bunn]

A very basic concept is 6 million people worldwide vs 7.5 billion. More than 1000 times as many.

Your maths is shithouse.

At our current rate of consumption its estimated that the earth can support 400 million people.

Says who? By when?

 

[Frank Bunn]

Abbott didn't really stop the boats FWIW.

Yes he did. The numbers went down to levels last seen during the Howard government. Rudd admitted his mistakes on push factors, and adopted the Libs policy for the 2013 federal election.

The main problem with immigration was always the 'tarmac invasion' anyway, which neither the ALP nor the LNP have really addressed.

There'a been an increase in asylum seekers arriving by plane. Maybe because they can't arrive by boat. At least we know who they are compared to people who toss their passports over the side of the boat and claim to be whatever nationality gives them the best chances of asylum.

But this is just small fry, and a distraction, compared to the numbers arriving by supposedly legitimate means with the various student and other temporary visas who end up staying in the country.

 

[NSWCROW]

Yes he did. The numbers went down to levels last seen during the Howard government. Rudd admitted his mistakes on push factors, and adopted the Libs policy for the 2013 federal election.

ffs we're really gonna do this AGAIN ???

You straight up say " YES HE DID " then the very next words out of your mouth are " THE NUMBERS WENT DOWN "

So which is it ?


" stopped reporting the boats " doesn't constitute " Stopping the boats " , it never has and it never will.

 

[Jello_B]

Their biggest problem is the toxic lunatics that support them on social media. Every tweet has me ready to charge down to the voting polls to vote for anything but them. Utter s**t stains.

I agree with this.
Edit, agree with a problem and not the biggest problem, my apologies.

 

[DaRick]

Yes he did. The numbers went down to levels last seen during the Howard government. Rudd admitted his mistakes on push factors, and adopted the Libs policy for the 2013 federal election.

Mmm?

Seems they only really played a small part in doing so, if at all.

 

[pazza]

Which basic and simple rights?

I assume the UN is outraged?

The current Government doesn't believe in the social contract. It basically fails to govern from the bottom up.

Examples: Centrelink - fancy denying people who have lost everything in the current bushfire crisis money there entitled to because the maps are out of date. What the hell is up with that crap?

Throw in the fact that the NDIS was stripped of funding to prop up a "surplus" and now that money is being re-directed into bushfire recovery. The 1 million Australians needing the NDIS are screwed over just for the sake of it.

Let's look at the JobActive garbage too. We have a cyclical unemployment problem. Some people can't break that cycle. The JobActive providers are only in it for themselves.

We have lowly paid pensions, Newstart and DVA payments. Impossible to keep head above water if on any of them.

 

[Kwality]

Its almost like you have completely wiped the overwhelming win of the crippled ssm vote out of your tiny little conservative minds isnt it.

Isnt it time the idea it was accepted the people that decide elections are on the left, arent on the right?

When you go down the path of pigeon holing voters ..... a relevance issue?

The same sex marriage commentary & the last election indicate how irrelevant left & right were in the result.

 

[HairyO]

Isnt it time the idea it was accepted the people that decide elections are on the left, arent on the right?

When you go down the path of pigeon holing voters ..... a relevance issue?

The same sex marriage commentary & the last election indicate how irrelevant left & right were in the result.

I would say plenty of conservative left wing voters voted no.

Just look at the western suburbs of Sydney. Labor heartland.

Traditional Liberal areas generally voted yes.

 

[Kwality]

I would say plenty of conservative left wing voters voted no.

Just look at the western suburbs of Sydney. Labor heartland.

Traditional Liberal areas generally voted yes.

Didnt 62% vote yes? 38% no. Does that reflect the status quo of the political left/right, dont think so.