Society/Culture Those who identify as right wing, what would you consider to be Extreme Right?

[SBD Gonzalez]

Oops. I can see that might have confused things. Fixed it.

 

[quotemokc]

What is an extreme right policy that people are campaigning for?

 

[WA ROO]

i am doing my darndest[sic] to get banned from twitter currently, i am not shur if that will bring a smirk to #cherf's face

Easy done
Post some Alex Jones clips

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Having come across you before we ALL know what a tiny mind you have. Hysteria ...no screw YOUR Socialism. I am hap hap happy to be known as far right by yourself. Just remember SBD do NOT play FULL ******.

Cut up your Medicare card mate. It's SOCIALISM!!!!!!! right there in your hip pocket, following your arse around.

 

[CatFan79]

So “stopping the boats” is clearly just so much horseschitt,

Go educate yourself about Rudd's policy which caused the influx of boats including dead refugees as a result. It had to be reversed and it was.. you're in denial.

I'm sure you were all for it at the time given how short sighted your type is but Labor's border policy was a disaster.

You think they can do a better job now? Please.

 

[CatFan79]

For alot of the posters in the Trump thread would consider Tulsi Gabbard would be considered right wing. Part of their reasoning is because she is anti-war and she loves her country.

Crim Hilary Clinton brands Tulsi a 'Russian asset' and all the impeach-tarrds parrot it like it's true. Too funny.

 

[quotemokc]

For alot of the posters in the Trump thread would consider Tulsi Gabbard would be considered right wing. Part of their reasoning is because she is anti-war and she loves her country.

 

[raskolnikov]

 

[DAlembert]

Cut up your Medicare card mate. It's SOCIALISM!!!!!!! right there in your hip pocket, following your arse around.

"Ke" The Health system in Oz is a true clusterfcuk.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

I identify as right wing but I have no idea what far right looks like or how to describe it.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Go educate yourself about Rudd's policy which caused the influx of boats including dead refugees as a result. It had to be reversed and it was.. you're in denial.

I'm sure you were all for it at the time given how short sighted your type is but Labor's border policy was a disaster.

You think they can do a better job now? Please.

Sorry, where was I defending Labor's policy?

You're really not getting this.

My point, summed up, because you seem deliberately slow on the uptake:

Given the facts we know about asylum seekers and about our borders,

"stopping the boats" is bullschitte,

and any claim we've ever had "open borders" is also bullschitte and only reveals the speaker of it to be a partisan twit.

The facts are pretty unambiguous.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

"Ke" The Health system in Oz is a true clusterfcuk.

And the US system, of course, is.......

 

[CM86]

Amazing. Two identical threads, but one is about left wing and far left, while the other is about right wing and far right.

But both end up as a discussion about 'the left' and socialism.

 

[CatFan79]

Given the facts we know about asylum seekers and about our borders,

"stopping the boats" is bullschitte,

Either educate yourself about the boats or live in denial, your choice.

Anyone who sneaks into this country on a plane should be directly sent back to wherever they came from too..

There's no ambiguity on this issue.

 

[DAlembert]

And the US system, of course, is.......

And your point is ...........

 

[Steinfreo]

Amazing. Two identical threads, but one is about left wing and far left, while the other is about right wing and far right.

But both end up as a discussion about 'the left' and socialism.

Yeah, well this entire forum is left and right wing people discussing right wing talking points from youtube, facebook and news.com.

 

[CatFan79]

right wing talking points from youtube

Don't worry, the easily triggered folk at Youtube are gradually shutting down right wing talking points.

 

[Tyler Durden007]

With right wingers drifting to the far right on immigration and climate change denial, I was wondering what right wingers now regard as far right?

Confirms religious parallel. Use a more appropriate term - Apostate or Heretic (and irrelevant to political standpoint anyway)

Why are conservatives painted as "right wing"? A vulgar slur obviously. In common speak to label someone "right wing" is to cast shady nazi-like connotations at them. A bizarre concept in itself as a close look at the German National Socialists reveals how far left their policies were (with a lethal dose of murderous racism mixed in).

If to be "right wing" is to be the opposite of "left wing". Then a "right winger" rejects governmental control, social protections (like welfare, public health), workers rights and protections etc. As someone who considers themselves conservative I'm not against any of those things, nor do I know any conservatives who are.

a) Why is tighter immigration control "right wing"?

b) Why is a position on anthropogenic climate change different to the IPCC agenda "right wing"?

Answer - because both a) and b) positions of open borders immigration and climate emergency are children of the left, birthed from an underlying agenda from the promotion of socialism and the eradication of the western capitalist/democratic structures.

The left define the terms.

 

[Socrates2]

Confirms religious parallel. Use a more appropriate term - Apostate or Heretic (and irrelevant to political standpoint anyway)

Why are conservatives painted as "right wing"? A vulgar slur obviously. In common speak to label someone "right wing" is to cast shady nazi-like connotations at them. A bizarre concept in itself as a close look at the German National Socialists reveals how far left their policies were (with a lethal dose of murderous racism mixed in).

If to be "right wing" is to be the opposite of "left wing". Then a "right winger" rejects governmental control, social protections (like welfare, public health), workers rights and protections etc. As someone who considers themselves conservative I'm not against any of those things, nor do I know any conservatives who are.

a) Why is tighter immigration control "right wing"?

b) Why is a position on anthropogenic climate change different to the IPCC agenda "right wing"?

Answer - because both a) and b) positions of open borders immigration and climate emergency are children of the left, birthed from an underlying agenda from the promotion of socialism and the eradication of the western capitalist/democratic structures.

The left define the terms.

I can't understand what you're saying.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

And your point is ...........

Well you said our SOCIALIST!!!!! Medicare system is a disaster. Unless you make the case that there is some sort of hybrid option somewhere in the world that is worth considering (which you haven’t done), one can only conclude you endorse the insanity of the American vulture capitalism health care system and that tells us your politics are pretty damn right wing regardless of your protestation to the contrary.

 

[DAlembert]

Well you said our SOCIALIST!!!!! Medicare system is a disaster. Unless you make the case that there is some sort of hybrid option somewhere in the world that is worth considering (which you haven’t done), one can only conclude you endorse the insanity of the American vulture capitalism health care system and that tells us your politics are pretty damn right wing regardless of your protestation to the contrary.

I think I said our Health care system is a cluster...Did not mention Medicare which is not actually a disaster. Our system works on many levels. I have used the health care system in USA and it works very well ( or did) when I used it. It was expensive though. Have I protested about being labeled yeh probably. I just HATE big Government I guess you would call that right wing?

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Either educate yourself about the boats or live in denial, your choice.

I am educated on the subject.

I know, for instance, that of the more than 3 million immigrants we've taken since the 1970s, only a tiny proportion have been asylum seekers. Probably no more than enough to half-fill a football stadium. And I know that the overwhelming majority of them were found to be genuine refugees (unless you want to question the competence of Peter Dutton's staff? Bunch of softies, ya reckon?)

Therefore the whole boat arrivals thing is a hysterical overreaction, fanned by this govt and the Murdoch press for purely political purposes.

So that's just one thing I know that you appear to not know, or prefer not to know.

And I know that this current government is failing dismally to prevent asylum seeker arrivals by plane. 80 a day, it was up until recently (still a whopping 65 pd).

So any talk of "stopping the boats" is actually nothing but deflection, and should be treated with contempt.

Anyone who sneaks into this country on a plane should be directly sent back to wherever they came from too..

There's no ambiguity on this issue.

So you really are ignorant on the issue.

Anyone that "sneaks into" this country should be sent back, yes - if they have no right to be here, but asylum seekers have a legal right to seek asylum here which overrides your opinions on how they got here. The vast majority of "irregular arrivals" (to use the Department's term) are found to be genuine asylum seekers, there's hardly any of them anyway, compared to the overall migrant intake - so this thing you find so scandalous is actually a huge non-issue.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

I think I said our Health care system is a cluster...Did not mention Medicare which is not actually a disaster. Our system works on many levels. I have used the health care system in USA and it works very well ( or did) when I used it. It was expensive though. Have I protested about being labeled yeh probably. I just HATE big Government I guess you would call that right wing?

Thanks for the clarification.

You would have had travel insurance of course, so the example is hardly indicative.

Yes, if you hate big government I guess that probably makes you right wing.

I guess I'm left wing then, because I love big government. It's painfully obvious that there are all sorts of things we desire in a civilised, advanced nation that are not provided by the free market theory.

 

[CatFan79]

Yes, if you hate big government I guess that probably makes you right wing.

No it could make you a Libertarian.. Socially liberal, fiscally conservative.

Individual rights and responsibility are paramount. Governments exist to regulate, not to take money and redistribute it.

'Big government' spruikers are usually either idealistic, poorly educated under 30s or the poorly motivated.

 

[DAlembert]

Thanks for the clarification.

You would have had travel insurance of course, so the example is hardly indicative.

Yes, if you hate big government I guess that probably makes you right wing.

I guess I'm left wing then, because I love big government. It's painfully obvious that there are all sorts of things we desire in a civilised, advanced nation that are not provided by the free market theory.

Just remember there is a tipping point for big Government..because it has to be paid for by the wealth producers. All Government is a cost on it's society it has to apply all manner of taxes to keep feeding itself. Cannot be a good thing with 3 levels of Government and all those public servants consultant and hangers on...ooooh yuk Socialism. No good for anyone except those who want to go cradle to grave protected " by the Government" Mate that is a society that will never work for the betterment of mankind..just panders to lobbyists. That tipping point by the way is when the wealth creators decide they have had enough and leave....what will all those people reliant on taxes do then..they will curl up and die....GOOD. Coz you know what the wealth creators can come back and make a DECENT society once more based on FREE enterprise.