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Season gone, time for a rebuild. We gave it our best shot. 2009 was our best chance.

Most players over 28 need to be moved on. Start recruiting for another crack in 5 years or so.

Players under the pump

Hudson
Cross
Gilbee
Hall
Hargrave
Gia

Players to delist

Stack
Djekurra
Barlow
Mulligan

Players with a future

Wood
Jones
Roughead
Wallis
Libba
Williams
Dalhaus
Tutt
Howard
Ward

Trade bait

Lake
Cooney


Time to look to the future, regenerate with a new playing group and coach. Re do the match committee and rebuild, trade for draft picks.
 
Players under the pump

Hargrave
Gia

Players to delist

Barlow
Mulligan

I stopped reading when i saw you put Gia in the under the pump list... He has been one of our better players this year, this is just plain old stupid.

Then I decided to read the other stupid things you wrote... Barlow, played one game, he didn't play too bad
Mulligan, has played like 2 or 3 games in his first season as a defender in a downhill skiing team.



NO.
 
If you think Gia, Stack and Mulligan are taking us to a Grand Final in 5 years then your in Disneyland.

Look at Collingwoods strategy. Clean out

Lockyer
Presti
Rhys Shaw
Clarke
Rocca

Go for youth and rebuild
 

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Players to move on/fade out

Hudson
Cross
Gilbee
Hall
Hargrave

Players to delist

Stack
Djerkurra


Players with a future

Wood
Jones
Roughead
Wallis
Libba
Williams
Dalhaus
Howard
Ward
Sherman
Griffen
Markovic

Players to keep as leaders
Boyd
Cooney
Morris
Gia

Players to wait on
Cordy
Tutt


Trade bait

Lake
Hill

i dont know where to put Minson


Clean out the assistant coaches.
Maybe find a new head coach if the players don't play for him anymore.
He's still a good coach but if he doesn't have the players he's gotta go.
 
I tend to avoid bigfooty for 4-5 days after a loss because of threads like this. They appear pretty much every week after a loss and are full of ridiculous suggestions. Maybe use the search function instead of wasting threadspace?
 
I really like Liam Jones. He missed a few kicks, but has some serious talent. Will be a gun IMO
 
Is cooney still under contract? I reckon you guys should do as many deals with GWS for young talent as you can. I think you will get over the odds for the players too. p.s Never get rid of Boyd what a champion:thumbsu:
 
I tend to avoid bigfooty for 4-5 days after a loss because of threads like this. They appear pretty much every week after a loss and are full of ridiculous suggestions. Maybe use the search function instead of wasting threadspace?

so this is just another loss is it??

"the belief" still there??
 
just keep playing the youth, its pretty simple.

its probaly a good time to have a rebuild while Collingwood are pretty much unbeatable and Geelong will be top for maybe next season as well.

they will slide come 2013 and hopefully we are back on the rise.
 
Sam Fisher has been St Kilda's best player this year and Cross shut him the F down. He is doing his role, and will play every game this year, and next year. so give up. If he had have kicked that goal, and not copped the horrible advantage call, then you'd be singing his praises.

Stack and Djerrkurra should never play another game. They are not up to it, and never will be. DJ has got the be the slowest player for someone that size. Slow in the head too.
 

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Given the rubbish I saw across the park from most of the players for much of the time IMO thought Stack was Ok.

He can not read the play in front of him. Has absolutely no poise an fumbles.
 
Hargrave should not be cast aside. He is a very valuable commodity... especially in our current team, with a HUGE need of run from the backline. It would be stupid to let him go. He's been injured... and in the couple of games he's played this year, he has been more than decent... especially in his first game of the season.
 
Sam Fisher has been St Kilda's best player this year and Cross shut him the F down. He is doing his role, and will play every game this year, and next year. so give up. If he had have kicked that goal, and not copped the horrible advantage call,.

Thats the problem he never gets those goals

As I said last year and got smashed for it on this board should have traded Cross

Now he is worth nothing
 
Season gone, time for a rebuild. We gave it our best shot. 2009 was our best chance.

Most players over 28 need to be moved on. Start recruiting for another crack in 5 years or so.

Players under the pump

Hudson
Cross
Gilbee
Hall
Hargrave
Gia

Players to delist

Stack
Djekurra
Barlow
Mulligan

Players with a future

Wood
Jones
Roughead
Wallis
Libba
Williams
Dalhaus
Tutt
Howard
Ward

Trade bait

Lake
Cooney


Time to look to the future, regenerate with a new playing group and coach. Re do the match committee and rebuild, trade for draft picks.

I understand your frustrations, but honestly, HOLD YOUR HORSES !

I mean, who really gives a shit that we lost tonite??? i personally dont given that we had 1/2 a side in - They showed a lot of spirit tonite....

In fact, we really should have won if we took our chances if we were honest - THE SAINTS IF THEY MAKE THE FINALS WILL ONLY MAKE UP THE NUMBERS ANYWAY!

lets just wait till the seasons over and give all players a go to see who has and who hasnt got what it takes to play at senior level before we cast judgements...
 
Is cooney still under contract? I reckon you guys should do as many deals with GWS for young talent as you can. I think you will get over the odds for the players too. p.s Never get rid of Boyd what a champion:thumbsu:

As much as it hurts, I reckon you're right, Berankis.
 

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Replace the question mark in the thread title with an exclamation mark. Hudson is done! Crossy is Done! Love the way they go about it but you need more strings to your bow than effort. I say send Cooney and Lake to Germany to drink some Goats blood and bring them back in 2012. Have a good long look at Tutt, Roughy, Cordy, Wallis and Veszpremmi. Maybe even Panos?
 
Thats the problem he never gets those goals

As I said last year and got smashed for it on this board should have traded Cross

Now he is worth nothing

Completely agree. You cant question his heart and courage and committment. But he can't kick, and is too slow. Compare him to a Swan, Selwood, Hayes, and that is who he is up against. He will compete and battle but will not impact the game.
 
Did you watch the game

RE: Stack

From what i saw tonite, stack has a long way to go, but he is miles ahead of Hill and Dukurra ! Took a great grab, got a great goal and wasnt too bad tonite

Hill needs to harden up , and Dukurra is like a deer in the head lights - fumbled badly, gave the ball to blokes under the pump and didnt read the game well - i hope he improves by round 22

But yet again, its only round 12, and i will wait to see who steps up for us by round 22
 
Completely agree. You cant question his heart and courage and committment. But he can't kick, and is too slow. Compare him to a Swan, Selwood, Hayes, and that is who he is up against. He will compete and battle but will not impact the game.

and you know what its not proabaly even Cross fault
The problem is that our midfield is full of players like him, what I am mad at is I could see that coming why couldnt the football department
 
Stack was pretty good tonight, I don't rate him but he had a dip and there were certainly worse players than him tonight.

Give him a break.
 

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