TOA's Phantom Draft (long post)

[sinepari]

The return of Simon Beasley?

Will Notte ever bulk up enough to play?

I reckon he will, but will require patience.

I'd be happy to have him at wce.

He may fail, but the upside is fairly large.

 

[macca69]

anyone know why Deboer didn't nominate? He seemed quite a decent prospect

Yeh it doesn't make much sense to me either. It's not like he's doing year 12 or anything next year. Very strange move IMO.

The only thing I can think of is if neither WA side had shown interest in him, he thought he might be able to get another crack at impressing them next year.

 

[megladon]

I think it's more bottom age players have a huge year they make the 18s squad they're never sure they are going to make the final side, even Rich had doubts he'd make the 25, they come home pretty mentally and physically exhausted go into their mocks around draft camp time, if they nominate they'de be doing interviews the 5 weeks leading up to TEE, finish their exams get drafted, pack up and move 3 weeks later with no results, no Uni preferences and no end of school celebrations, maybe just to much to absorb in 1 year.
Won't make any difference to his footy career, in the colts finals he was setting up plays as good as any 17yr old i've ever seen, he will be a star next year and prob 2-4cm taller

 

[Gopies 2002]

I think it's more bottom age players have a huge year they make the 18s squad they're never sure they are going to make the final side, even Rich had doubts he'd make the 25, they come home pretty mentally and physically exhausted go into their mocks around draft camp time, if they nominate they'de be doing interviews the 5 weeks leading up to TEE, finish their exams get drafted, pack up and move 3 weeks later with no results, no Uni preferences and no end of school celebrations, maybe just to much to absorb in 1 year.
Won't make any difference to his footy career, in the colts finals he was setting up plays as good as any 17yr old i've ever seen, he will be a star next year and prob 2-4cm taller

And for all we know he may do a knee or shoulder for example and miss a year.

IMO a player should get onto a list well in demand. If he really wants another year before taking the step, do what Ball & Ellis did and make it clear you will not be available for selection.

 

[stefoid]

you have the dogs going tall with every pick? I think 188cm was the shortest player you have us drafting.

 

[TOA.]

you have the dogs going tall with every pick? I think 188cm was the shortest player you have us drafting.

May seem tall but McCarthy, Reid and Wood (I'm guessing) are not KPP.

 

[Lingsface]

great stuff as usual toa. hope the prediction is right on garlett being picked up is a very handy player in my opinion. Jahran Jackie is more a half back wingmen I would of thought though thats my only question. Great to see Pears improvement has been noticed and the additional ais squad inclusion must of really helped him.

 

[- PC -]

For the record, here is an order I am more comfortable with.

Round 1

Pick 1 – Carlton – Matthew Kreuzer
Pick 2 – Richmond – Trent Cotchin
Pick 3 – WC – Chris Masten
Pick 4 – Melb – Cale Morton
Pick 5 – Bulldogs – Lachlan Henderson
Pick 6 – Ess – David Myers
Pick 7 – Fremantle – Rhys Palmer
Pick 8 – Brisbane – Brad Ebert
Pick 9 – Saints – Ben McEvoy
Pick 10 – Adelaide – Alex Rance
Pick 11 – Sydney – Tayte Pears
Pick 12 – Hawks – Cyril Rioli
Pick 13 – WC – Jack Grimes
Pick 14 – Melb – Callan Ward
Pick 15 – Roos – Scott Selwood
Pick 16 – Port – David Gourdis
Pick 17 – Cats – Dan McKenna

Based on Ebert going I would suggest the AFC would take Rioli at 10

Then again I could be wrong

 

[TOA.]

Here is my more 'preferred' outcome (with the correct draft order).

Round 1

Pick 1 – Carlton – Matthew Kreuzer
Pick 2 – Richmond – Trent Cotchin
Pick 3 – WC – Chris Masten
Pick 4 – Melb – Cale Morton
Pick 5 – Bulldogs – Jarred Grant
Pick 6 – Ess – David Myers
Pick 7 – Fremantle – Rhys Palmer
Pick 8 – Brisbane – Brad Ebert
Pick 9 – Saints – Ben McEvoy
Pick 10 – Adelaide – Alex Rance
Pick 11 – Sydney – Tayte Pears
Pick 12 – Hawks – Cyril Rioli
Pick 13 – WC – Jack Grimes
Pick 14 – Melb – Lachlan Henderson
Pick 15 – Roos – Scott Selwood
Pick 16 – Port – David Gourdis
Pick 17 – Cats – Patrick Vezspremi

Round 2

Pick 18 – Richmond – Patrick Dangerfield
Pick 19 – Bulldogs – Tony Notte
Pick 20 – WC – Callan Ward
Pick 21 – Melb – Chris Kangars
Pick 22 – WC – Levi Greenwood
Pick 23 – Ess – Addam Maric
Pick 24 – Fremantle – Steven Browne
Pick 25 – Brisbane – Brendan Whitecross
Pick 26 – Sydney – Tom Collier
Pick 27 – Adelaide – Andrew Otten
Pick 28 – Port – Marlon Motlop
Pick 29 – Hawthorn – Jackson Hall
Pick 30 – Adelaide – Mitch Farmer
Pick 31 – Pies – Steven Gaertner
Pick 32 – Roos – Robert Tarrant
Pick 33 – Port – Aaron Joseph
Pick 34 – Geelong – Dan McKenna

Round 3

Pick 35 – Bulldogs – Sam Reid
Pick 36 – Carlton – Ashley Arrowsmith
Pick 37 – Kangaroos – Tom Rockliff
Pick 38 – Adelaide – Tom McNamara
Pick 39 – Essendon – Darcy Daniher
Pick 40 – Fremantle – Dawson Simpson
Pick 41 – Brisbane – James Mulligan
Pick 42 – Saints – Brent Connelly
Pick 43 – Bulldogs – Jarrhan Jacky
Pick 44 – Geelong – Joseph Daye
Pick 45 – Hawthorn – Harry Croft
Pick 46 – Carlton – Scott Simpson
Pick 47 – Pies – Jack Steven
Pick 48 – Bulldogs – Jarred Petrenko
Pick 49 – Port – Pass
Pick 50 – Geelong – Matthew Lobbe

Round 4

Pick 51 – Richmond – Patrick McGinnity
Pick 52 – Brisbane – Hugh Sandilands
Pick 53 – Melb – Dean Putt
Pick 54 – Ess – Tom Bellchambers
Pick 55 – Fremantle – James Moss
Pick 56 – Brisbane – Harry Taylor
Pick 57 – St Kilda – John McCarthy
Pick 58 – Adelaide – Nick Salter
Pick 59 – Sydney – Craig Bird
Pick 60 – Geelong – Adam Donoghue
Pick 61 – Collingwood – Jaxson Barham
Pick 62 – Roos – Dayne Zorko
Pick 63 – Western Bulldogs – Easton Wood

Round 5

Pick 64 – Richmond – Pass
Pick 65 – Carlton – Pass
Pick 66 – Melbourne – Cruize Gartlett
Pick 67 – Western Bulldogs – Pass
Pick 68 – Essendon – Pass
Pick 69 – Fremantle – Kepler Bradley
Pick 70 – St Kilda – Pass
Pick 71 – Adelaide – John McDonald
Pick 72 – Ross – Pass
Pick 73 – Melbourne – Pass
Pick 74 – Fremantle – Pass
Pick 75 – Adelaide – Taylor Walker

 

[FIGJAM]

Quite like the Collingwood selection of Mayne, albeit I cannot see us taking 3 mids. At least one will be tall or a ruckmen unless they plan for that in the first round of the rookie but I doubt it.

I think it's a strength of TOA's effort not to lump us with the fourth or so best ruckman just because we "need one". Hine showed last year that he'd rather overlook the ruck if the quality isn't there.

Griffith is a likely mature aged rookie.

 

[Burzum]

I'd be VERY happy with that TOA

Good effort.

 

[tigerdan]

Hi TOA, nice read.

Would be interested to hear your reasoning (or read a profile) on Jack Steven going to Collingwood. Both he and Jaxon Barham played for Lorne FC as well as Geelong Falcons, so i'm wondering if that was the line of thought you chose or whether it was 'best fit'.

Michael Turner was singing the praises of Jack Steven all year (as one would expect he should of all the Falcons players). My gut feeling would be Geelong with a late selection.

Note that I have no idea how he compares with other juniors, but few kids from my neck of the woods make it, so would be interested on your thoughts / profile.

 

[TOA.]

Hi TOA, nice read.

Would be interested to hear your reasoning (or read a profile) on Jack Steven going to Collingwood. Both he and Jaxon Barham played for Lorne FC as well as Geelong Falcons, so i'm wondering if that was the line of thought you chose or whether it was 'best fit'.

Michael Turner was singing the praises of Jack Steven all year (as one would expect he should of all the Falcons players). My gut feeling would be Geelong with a late selection.

Note that I have no idea how he compares with other juniors, but few kids from my neck of the woods make it, so would be interested on your thoughts / profile.

I have to be honest, I havent see that much of him. I know he's quick but his kicking can let him down. To win a TAC B+F as a bottom-age player is a good effort in anyones language.

I placed him at the Pies because I read on here and also from another person that the pies were slowing alot of interest along with Freo.

 

[tigerdan]

Thanks for the quick reply TOA. I'll be watching the draft with interest and will for selfish, illogical reasons be hoping he ends up at the Tigers

 

[eagles rule]

Great read,well done TOA

 

[Infamy]

Definitely prefer your more detailed version TOA, the first list didn't have Richmond taking a single tall player. A mid, kpp & ruckman with our first 3 picks is much preferable and I'd be very happy with Cotchin, Gaertner & Putt.

Hope we get Morton though

 

[TOA.]

Definitely prefer your more detailed version TOA, the first list didn't have Richmond taking a single tall player. A mid, kpp & ruckman with our first 3 picks is much preferable and I'd be very happy with Cotchin, Gaertner & Putt.

Hope we get Morton though

With the latest shortened version, I'm going for accuracy in terms of getting hits on players going at the correct selection based on what I have heard. The longer version took more account clubs draft balance and needs.

 

[pinkus maximus]

Pick 55 – Fremantle – James Moss

who's he TOA?

 

[TOA.]

who's he TOA?

You'll find out soon.

 

[pinkus maximus]

You'll find out soon.

*shakes fist* damn you

 

[Skooks]

You'll find out soon.

I love how Freo always take the "clever smokies" which always turn out to be absolute uber duds.

How intelligent of them.

 

[pinkus maximus]

I love how Freo always take the "clever smokies" which always turn out to be absolute uber duds.

How intelligent of them.

huh?

apart form mourish, i cant think of any other 'smokies' we've taken in recent years

 

[TOA.]

huh?

apart form mourish, i cant think of any other 'smokies' we've taken in recent years

Juniper was another smokey but he was rookie listed and well worth the risk. Turned out he didnt want to be an AFL player, like many recruiters had feared.

 

[worsfold]

TOA- like your second effort better from a WC point of view.
Have WC shown any interest in dangerfield?
and I hope Mcevoy slips to 13

 

[Blue_Blood]

TOA - notice you have Tommy Rockcliff at Pick 37 to the Roos, where you didn't have him drafted in your first attempt. Could you give me some info on his height/weight and type of player. All I really know is he is from Murray Bushrangers and his name has been floated around a bit.