Tom Boyd

[dave123]

How many games has he played

He needs time, big guys take way more time than mids

It's not his fault he got a big contract .....does anyone think he should have said nah I'm not worth that coin at all

If the bullies or when the bullies get everyone on the park with Redpath , stringer and Boyd they will be seriously good

Boyd need ps time ...I also think it's hard being a forward from the get go ....you have to deal with flooded forward lines and big defenders who are quick

You also have to be able to get up the ground quickly and have a decent engine all at 21 ....that's not easy

He will be ok ...he might not be the superstar he was once touted (I mean who is ....) we hyperbole everyone theses days

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

How funny are all the poor bulldogs supporters getting angry over others calling Boyd for what he is and that is a footballer that will not make it.

If he wasn't a pick 1 none of you lot would be defending him and would be calling him a dud.

Fact.

Fact is you have little vision of players and their scope for improvement and future qualities. must be sad and bitter when the club you support hangs their hat on only three decent players.

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

Looked ok last night but got some piss weak free kicks that inflated his stats.

 

[Saints2019]

Hmm.

As you say, you don't think you're being too early. We are all free to think what we like.

I also understand that from an oppo supporter who wouldn't watch other sides too closely.

All I see in McCartin is a kid with potential. I don't see anything amazing. All kids with potential do good things from time to time. McCartin's firmly in that boat.

You're hoping his concussions won't stop him (I genuinely hope so too.). He's had a few already, though, and he's still a raw kid.
I'm also hoping his diabetes doesn't interfere with his football. He's got a few obstacles in front of him, unfortunately.

He will never be Nick Reiwoldt. Not a criticism, though. Roo is an all time legend. I don't see that in Paddy, and neither do you if you're being honest.

You've drawn certainty from lots of maybes. Easy to do, but pretty unreliable when guessing on the future.

Ok I agree its early but to say you havent seen ANYTHING amazing? What amazes you!?!?

So the mark and goal against geelong in first two minutes is nothing special?
The PACK marks against hawks in tassie, pies at g, bombers round 9 nothing special? The bullet pass, 60m goal and leading patterns in round 9 nohing special? His stats arent special its what hes done thats special. I think you should watch closer all experts have said the same that hes showed special signs.
Thats all im saying not saying he will be an amazing player long term just that his potential and individual things hes done is wow. Showing more than boyd in THAT way, thats all im saying. Surely you agree. Well you will if you go get the highlights.

Again thats not saying boyd wont be have the better career stats wise and do more for the dogs, but he hasnt got the skill of paddy that is all im saying.

 

[JeffDunne]

Lost for one reason?
Extremely simplistic for a expert like yourself. I'm more than shocked at the lack of depth in your analysis.

Do you also think Libba's injury played some small part?
He was doing pretty well against Danger.

Prior to doing his hammy, McCrae was going head to head with Selwood, who had 0 kicks and 9 handpasses to half time.

Is it even remotely possible that Stanley had limited opposition? Did you notice he outmarked Caleb Daniel at one stage?

Is it possible that losing 5 blokes to injury from last week had an impact on the game?



One reason?


For a bloke who understands footy like you do, you need to do a little better than you have here.

You'd do better to spend more time watching and less time focusing on excuses.

Sure Libba was a loss but ultimately the Bulldogs still had enough of the ball to win. They controlled large periods of the game without impacting the scoreboard - even when he was off the ground.

Geelong couldn't hit a target all night. No doubt in large part due to the Bulldogs pressure. Doesn't take talent for a team to bring that. Who wasn't in the team is irrelevant if we're talking about how the game last night was played. The Bulldogs were in a position to win regardless, so that's what we're discussing.

This all encompassing focus you have for Boyd is bordering on a fetish.

This thread is about what exactly? Paddy McCartin? Nick Riewoldt? (or any of the other lame trolling attempts you've wheeled out in this thread)

Still waiting on those "highlights" from his career best game.

 

[Lach72]

I thought he was pretty good.

Competed kicked a few.
Bulldogs delivery forward was also puss

 

[TiAn_]

You'd do better to spend more time watching and less time focusing on excuses.

Sure Libba was a loss but ultimately the Bulldogs still had enough of the ball to win. They controlled large periods of the game without impacting the scoreboard - even when he was off the ground.

Geelong couldn't hit a target all night. No doubt in large part due to the Bulldogs pressure. Doesn't take talent for a team to bring that. Who wasn't in the team is irrelevant if we're talking about how the game last night was played. The Bulldogs were in a position to win regardless, so that's what we're discussing.


This thread is about what exactly? Paddy McCartin? Nick Riewoldt? (or any of the other lame trolling attempts you've wheeled out in this thread)

Still waiting on those "highlights" from his career best game.

Your argument is that we lost last night because Boyd didn't kick more than 3 goals? Is that why we're being subjected to this inanity?

This thread is only to get more embarrassing for Saints fans the longer they keep clamouring here.

After last night's game, probably would have been best to leave this alone for a week.

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

He was good, justified selection. Reminds me of Hawkins early a lot, same jumping too early and timing issue. One thing he could learn from Hawkins is intensity at the contest, Hawkins isn't quick but he attacks the ball with intent. Very nice foot skills.

Good to hear a Geelong persons take on it after Friday night, and one that has gone through the rigors of ridicule of Hawkins early on. You're right he tends jump a bit early sometimes and that will iron it self out, he has yet to have a full run at it either with pre seasons and injuries since we traded him in.

 

[OniAu]

Kids going to be a gem regardless of the coin he is on. Good on him for taking the money , who in their right mind would have said no

 

[JeffDunne]

Your argument is that we lost last night because Boyd didn't kick more than 3 goals?

Um, no.

I'm saying you lost the game because you lacked a key forward.

 

[TiAn_]

Um, no.

I'm saying you lost the game because you lacked a key forward.

Sounds like a discussion for the gameday thread then. Jog on.

 

[Sector 7G]

Um, no.

I'm saying you lost the game because you lacked a key forward.

They lost because they didn't have decent key defenders and the players that normally give drive off half back were ineffective because they were so intent on providing support. First half every time in went inside 50 they scored or at least that is how it seemed.

Boyd did his part. Stringer on the other hand was the forward that let the Doggies down.

 

[GetDimmaBack]

You'd do better to spend more time watching and less time focusing on excuses.

Sure Libba was a loss but ultimately the Bulldogs still had enough of the ball to win. They controlled large periods of the game without impacting the scoreboard - even when he was off the ground.

Geelong couldn't hit a target all night. No doubt in large part due to the Bulldogs pressure. Doesn't take talent for a team to bring that. Who wasn't in the team is irrelevant if we're talking about how the game last night was played. The Bulldogs were in a position to win regardless, so that's what we're discussing.


This thread is about what exactly? Paddy McCartin? Nick Riewoldt? (or any of the other lame trolling attempts you've wheeled out in this thread)

Still waiting on those "highlights" from his career best game.

If you honestly think the only reason we lost is Boyd, you have a number of issues.

The biggest one is that you don't get football.

Reasons are not excuses.

You are the one making excuses for you're opinions.

I'm now convinced you're a troll. Just not a very good one.

 

[BRWB]

If you honestly think the only reason we lost is Boyd, you have a number of issues.

The biggest one is that you don't get football.

Reasons are not excuses.

You are the one making excuses for you're opinions.

I'm now convinced you're a troll. Simple as that.

You're underselling trolls a bit there.

Boyd had a good game, most reasonable posters recognise this.

Is he worth a million bucks right now?

Nah. But doesn't mean the money's wasted. Invested.

 

[JeffDunne]

They lost because they didn't have decent key defenders and the players that normally give drive off half back were ineffective because they were so intent on providing support. First half every time in went inside 50 they scored or at least that is how it seemed.

I don't disagree with the observations on their backline but it isn't what cost them the game. Early in the game the Bulldogs defenders were all at sea, but the Dogs adjusted and did bring down the Cats F50 efficiency.

Up the other end the opposite was true. The Bulldogs F50 efficiency started poor and stayed poor.

Nobody, least of all Boyd, contributed to changing that (although his kicking for goal was very good).

Boyd did his part. Stringer on the other hand was the forward that let the Doggies down.

So why expect of it Stringer but not Boyd? I'd argue Stringer looked far more dangerous up forward all game too. He was at least running hard to get to contests and actually contesting.

Stringer was returning from injury too. He's also only a year ahead of Boyd in terms of experience (& I bet getting paid a lot less).

Twelve months ago Stringer was influencing games and had exception on him for performance.

If Boyd put in the same effort as Stringer last night I'd be singing his praises.

 

[Marc_Remillard]

I didn't see the game but by the looks of it he played well?

Good for him

 

[GetDimmaBack]

I don't disagree with the observations on their backline but it isn't what cost them the game. Early in the game the Bulldogs defenders were all at sea, but the Dogs adjusted and did bring down the Cats F50 efficiency.

Up the other end the opposite was true. The Bulldogs F50 efficiency started poor and stayed poor.

Nobody, least of all Boyd, contributed to changing that (although his kicking for goal was very good).


So why expect of it Stringer but not Boyd? I'd argue Stringer looked far more dangerous up forward all game too. He was at least running hard to get to contests and actually contesting.

Stringer was returning from injury too. He's also only a year ahead of Boyd in terms of experience (& I bet getting paid a lot less).

Twelve months ago Stringer was influencing games and had exception on him for performance.

If Boyd put in the same effort as Stringer last night I'd be singing his praises.

Ah, the world according to JD.

You seem to have the personality of sandpaper.

Ignored

 

[ManOfClay]

Dig upwards jeff

 

[GetDimmaBack]

Looked ok last night but got some piss weak free kicks that inflated his stats.

Don't all clubs get the soft ones against Geelong?

Cats fans are the Vic equivalent of WCE and the Crows...

 

[JeffDunne]

Still waiting for those "highlights".

 

[GetDimmaBack]

Ok I agree its early but to say you havent seen ANYTHING amazing? What amazes you!?!?

So the mark and goal against geelong in first two minutes is nothing special?
The PACK marks against hawks in tassie, pies at g, bombers round 9 nothing special? The bullet pass, 60m goal and leading patterns in round 9 nohing special? His stats arent special its what hes done thats special. I think you should watch closer all experts have said the same that hes showed special signs.
Thats all im saying not saying he will be an amazing player long term just that his potential and individual things hes done is wow. Showing more than boyd in THAT way, thats all im saying. Surely you agree. Well you will if you go get the highlights.

Again thats not saying boyd wont be have the better career stats wise and do more for the dogs, but he hasnt got the skill of paddy that is all im saying.

Aaaandd you're entitled to your opinion.

Point worth remembering: it's just your opinion. Nothing more, nothing less.

Sometimes supporters see more than is actually there.

Paddy's a kid with potential.

 

[ManOfClay]

Still waiting for those "highlights".

You are a monumental tool just fishing because you won't admit you are wrong.

Adam h lite

 

[JeffDunne]

Wrong? lol

Highlights please? Anything?

 

[Taylor]

It will be tricky for him to show his wares as a key forward when he is required to ruck so much, although it does get him around the ball.

When the dogs other ruck options can stay 90% of the time there he, and the team, will settle.

Tim English plus three years.

 

[The 747]

Doggies lost that game for the same reason they always lose to us - they kick from wing or half back to about 40m out dead in front most of the time. We sit a couple of marking defenders there and some guys on either wing to take the receive and go. It's groundhog game.