Mega Thread Trade and List Management discussion

[the conch]

Meh, watching him get outbodied, outmanoeuvred and outmuscled time and time again in that ressies final V Essendon makes me believe he's not as good a one-on-one defender as he thinks he is, and he sure as shit struggles with the zone, so I'm not crying about his departure, let alone without adding his treachery in.

Yea but it was like he wasn't really trying later on

 

[Bemoreboyddog]

Cale Hooker is a F/A next year, lets chase him

although I expect Essendon will demand our first picks & Easton Wood as adequate compensation

& we will reply, there will be no Wood for your Hooker

But if he's a F/A they get to request nothing unless he's restricted and they force a trade.

 

[Testekill]

So how do we get apeness?


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Depends on if Freo delists him now

 

[TiAn_]

The recruiting team did an incredible job with two lower picks in the 20s and two picks in the 40s last year. If they repeat that effort with 21, 22 and 30 our list will be stellar.

 

[Testekill]

But if he's a F/A they get to request nothing unless he's restricted and they force a trade.

He has to be restricted, no chance he isn't in their upper echelon for contracts.

 

[Testekill]

But if he's a F/A they get to request nothing unless he's restricted and they force a trade.

He has to be restricted, no chance he isn't in their upper echelon for contracts.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

So 26,27 2 years in a row?

Probably 24/25 in the end (Hopper, Mills, Kennedy, Keays, Hipwood, minus GWS first pick). All the academy teams trading out their 11-30 picks hurts us.

 

[House_of_Dahl]

Agree entirely Dannnnnnn. Have no idea about the draft. But the general concept of not having a top 20 pick, 2 years in a row worries me.

Not sure that means much in our team's context. We traded in TBoyd last year who was a clear number 1 pick only in his second year. And we have a truck load of very highly talented kids already in the team.

Edit: we are also going to have to get used to no high picks if we hope to be on top of the ladder for the next decade!

 

[Dav1d]

But if he's a F/A they get to request nothing unless he's restricted and they force a trade.

Ugh.

 

[Hard Ball Get]

Hate the pick 11 trade. Think it is stupidity...

... But then what would I know? Have to put your faith in the people in charge. But man I dislike that trade.

 

[Pannalstaroz]

Apeness will re-sign with Freo apparently.

 

[Bemoreboyddog]

Wow. 69 and Talia for basically a mid 60's to mid 70's pick next year. That's silly. If that was the best offer we got I would ace sent him to the draft.

 

[Hard Ball Get]

The Talia trade makes me especially angry. If we are going to get nothing for him them force him into the draft where he ends up wherever he ends up. Why give him what he wants??

 

[TBOW]

Wow. 69 and Talia for basically a mid 60's to mid 70's pick next year. That's silly. If that was the best offer we got I would ace sent him to the draft.

Gives us a bit of ammo to try to upgrade some picks in a stronger draft. But yeah, under charged for sure...

 

[Dav1d]

Gives us a bit of ammo to try to upgrade some picks in a stronger draft. But yeah, under charged for sure...

It has me curious actually, about who has highly rated academy picks next year
that might want to trade out their high picks for points again

 

[Bemoreboyddog]

Probably 24/25 in the end (Hopper, Mills, Kennedy, Keays, Hipwood, minus GWS first pick). All the academy teams trading out their 11-30 picks hurts us.

Thanks for clearing that up mate, my bad.

 

[Nath09]

We're not getting Apeness lads. Every time Brad Boyd is asked about the future of the club he makes specific mention of him.

 

[Bemoreboyddog]

I must be missing something. Clearly the common consensus is that this years draft is really poor in regards to depth. Why are so many late picks flying around? For anyone that says academy points, don't picks stop having a value in the 70's or slightly earlier?

 

[Bemoreboyddog]

He has to be restricted, no chance he isn't in their upper echelon for contracts.

I thought the restricted, unrestricted was more to do with how long they've been at the club, not their contract size. Probably wrong, that's just what I thought.

 

[stefoid]

Hate the pick 11 trade. Think it is stupidity...

... But then what would I know? Have to put your faith in the people in charge. But man I dislike that trade.

Lets say Dal thinks Ben McKay is the possible ruck/forward that we know he has been on the lookout for. hypothetical like.

Before the trade with Carlton, we take Ben McKay with pick 11. Its a reach, but we cant risk him not being there at pick 30.

Now we take him with 21, and get another pick right after. How is that not a better scenario?

You might have your heart set on some player who is being talked up in the phantom drafts as being available at 11, but when has Dalrymple ever taken a player that was talked up in the phantoms as being available for our early picks? never ever, thats when.

 

[go you pups]

Burton is the one I reckon.

Can Burton mark overhead?

Bit suss on him

 

[ErnieSigley]

I think a lot of people are making themselves feel better about Talia by saying he has no value.

He is a key defender who is competent at playing a lock down role but can't understand zone defence. This is still valuable at AFL level, which was evident as at least 3 clubs were looking at him.

We have been majorly screwed by the AFL on this one. Why am I not surprised.

It's got a lot more to do with the way he treated our club than anything. Whether he play as a lockdown is debatable

 

[goodcop badcop]

Can Burton mark overhead?

Bit suss on him

Very good mark overhead. He's a bit like Jarred Roughead.

 

[Dav1d]

Can Burton mark overhead?

Bit suss on him

Yes, he is a strong mark overhead

I'm not even worried about his height, I am more worried about how he has recovered from his broken leg injury
(a worse break than Stringers apparently)

 

[goodcop badcop]

As average as I think Grant is, Id prefer him (or another DFA) than to take a fourth 18 year old at pick 51.

Macpherson surely a rookie option only from here.

We may look at recruiting a VFL defender at this pick. Sam Landsberger said we are looking at Mitch Brown, otherwise Hartley might be ok.