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s**t! https://www.smh.com.au/sport/brown-slams-sherman-for-afl-racial-abuse-20110630-1gs7k.html
We're still tarred with that brush? It ws 8 years ago, although someone else mentioned that Hill copped something at the Dogs.
No wonder indigenous players do not want to play for us. I wouldn't.
So given all this, are you really surprised that we missed out on star indigenous players coming to us 3 years in a row?
It's probably worth it to get someone like Betts or Bourgoyne, but not if our fans racially abuse them.
Maybe Jamarra will leave us after 2 years...
What are thoughts on Puopolo if he doesn’t get a new deal at Hawks? Sign him up for a 1 yr as good depth?
Liam Jones is at Carlton, didn’t leave the club on good terms, and was subjected to some racist taunts from fans. On the other hand Marngrook footy show has two hosts who are Bulldog fans in Leila and Grant.
Keath “destined” to become a bulldog according to herald sun.
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Yeah nah wrong
Sorry I know Liam and he left for one reason and one reason only, Macca.
And I can’t speak for Magic and Josh Hill but I think you are talking out your butt with this one sorry I have never heard Mag speak of leaving the dogs due to racism and I’ve sat in several of his multicultural youth talks.
Like every other label it’s incredibly easy to throw out there but unfortunately we have had several indigenous players over the last 20-30 years and the biggest issue is they have mainly been sh!t on field so most haven’t had a choice to leave.
Viney, Betts, Martin, Papley, Butler...don’t know how Carlton get all these deals done.Awesome news if the Keath thing is happening. Big fan.
Not dogs related, but Carlton is taking a big swing at jack viney.
I’m keen to know how everyone sees our key position structures with Keath and Bruce.
Can/should Schache, Naughton and Bruce all play forward?? I’m still not so sure how that will work. Although seeing Haynes play on rhylee west and just zone off all day to make life hard for Schache and Naughton on the weekend does make me think.
Just heightens the need for a legit speed merchant small forward if we do play the 3 talls. Dickson, Lloyd and McLean plus the talls ain’t gonna cut it.
Bruce would be the relief ruck (assuming Trengove doesn’t play)?
Keath and Cordy as key defenders? Trengove still has to play on the really big guys like Brown, Daniher, Lynch, Dixon, Wright and hawkins for mine. So maybe horses for courses with that. Cordy misses out if there’s no match up.
If Carlton land Martin, Viney and one of Papley or Gray, they'll be well and truly outside the bottom 4, and could potentially be pushing for finals (most likely 9-12)Awesome news if the Keath thing is happening. Big fan.
Not dogs related, but Carlton is taking a big swing at jack viney.
Betts will cost nothing. Can't get both Viney and Papley unless they lose a serious player like Weitering. Butler will cost next to nothing. Martin is probably a future 2nd plus a late pick swap or something. Really the only expensive ones are Viney and Papley. That's both 2019 and 2020 1st rounders gone, and then someViney, Betts, Martin, Papley, Butler...don’t know how Carlton get all these deals done.
Keath and Cordy as key defenders? Trengove still has to play on the really big guys like Brown, Daniher, Lynch, Dixon, Wright and hawkins for mine. So maybe horses for courses with that. Cordy misses out if there’s no match up.
I haven't overheard specifically racist taunts to him, but anyone that attended our games live has no doubt heard Liam Jones be abused for being a spud and useless etcWhen did this happen with Liam?
If it was mindless Aboriginal taunts from scumbags in the crowd, was it even common knowledge that he was indigenous?
Much as I hate to think it, the way Carlton finished the year, with the young talent they have they should be 7-12 next year without those guys.If Carlton land Martin, Viney and one of Papley or Gray, they'll be well and truly outside the bottom 4, and could potentially be pushing for finals (most likely 9-12)
I’m keen to know how everyone sees our key position structures with Keath and Bruce.
Can/should Schache, Naughton and Bruce all play forward?? I’m still not so sure how that will work. Although seeing Haynes play on rhylee west and just zone off all day to make life hard for Schache and Naughton on the weekend does make me think.
Just heightens the need for a legit speed merchant small forward if we do play the 3 talls. Dickson, Lloyd and McLean plus the talls ain’t gonna cut it.
Bruce would be the relief ruck (assuming Trengove doesn’t play)?
Keath and Cordy as key defenders? Trengove still has to play on the really big guys like Brown, Daniher, Lynch, Dixon, Wright and hawkins for mine. So maybe horses for courses with that. Cordy misses out if there’s no match up.
Don't forget Young who finished the year really strongly I thought and with another preseason in the gym may be the best option of all (in terms of balance between size and athleticism).I have Trengrove and Keath as my 2 defenders. 75% of teams will play that ruck sized forward that Trengrove is equipped to play. He just didn’t have a match up on the weekend.
Bruce and Naughton automatic KPF selections with English obviously starting ruck.
I then want one more tall. This then for me is Schache v Cordy. Schache the goal kicker v Cordy the utility.
I’m a critic of Cordy but I think he provides more value. He can play back and forward and basically fill the gap when a tall is having a rest. Schache to me isn’t going to stand up in games with a finals like environment.
Cordy also allows Trengrove to be the chop out ruck. Keeping our star kpfs in the forward line.