Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 5 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Libbaaaa]

Apologies if this was already posted

 

[Mofra]

Apologies if this was already posted

Happy with this. Has some real mongrel to his game

 

[Bulldogs85]

Apologies if this was already posted

Fantastic news

 

[adogsfan5]

There is so much noise about how poorly the Bombers have treated Rutten.

I suspect a number of their players will want out - anyone we should target?

Or perhaps send Dunkley there to that really strong culture he wanted to join

Shake the tree for Ridley and Perkins

 

[Mofra]

Shake the tree for Ridley and Perkins

Dealing with Dido though....

FYI: AFL Out of Contract Players in 2022

 

[adogsfan5]

Dealing with Dido though....

FYI: AFL Out of Contract Players in 2022

Wouldn’t be shocked if he gets the sack before trade period

 

[Mofra]

Wouldn’t be shocked if he gets the sack before trade period

Possible, although it would require a full board spill I believe as he's (amazingly) a sitting board member.

 

[huddo#9]

I don’t see plenty agreeing, for a fact I recall a lot of people on here after the game saying Gardner would have been better suited. Minority, mate.

It’s very comparable when you are using your pre-determined assessment of a player to the extent of potting him at every available opportunity. It’s embarrassing of you and I would also implore you to be a better person, but hopefully you will take that advice on board, as he didn’t.

Pre determined? And for what its worth its more of a negative towards the match committee, not on the player. I've never ever questioned his effort or want to be a good player.

 

[bobs head soup]

If a players chooses to terminate a contract, they are delisted and should be considered as such.
Carlton had to seek special consideration for this 'decision'

Much as I hate Carlton, not sure I agree

Jones was on Carlton's list in 2022 and chose to retire.

If we let players walk out on contracts (for whatever reason), announce retirement, and then re-sign elsewhere the very next season, I think if the left club should be in the same position as a regular free agent leaving.

If not, anyone can retire midseason and leave their club in the lurch.

If a disenchanted big name/big contract player did this it would make the whole free agent/compensation system a joke (or more of a joke).

 

[Mofra]

Much as I hate Carlton, not sure I agree

Jones was on Carlton's list in 2022 and chose to retire.

If we let players walk out on contracts (for whatever reason), announce retirement, and then re-sign elsewhere the very next season, I think if the left club should be in the same position as a regular free agent leaving.

If not, anyone can retire midseason and leave their club in the lurch.

If a disenchanted big name/big contract player did this it would make the whole free agent/compensation system a joke (or more of a joke).

Jones retired in Nov 2021 and sat out the 2022 season.
I think 12 months should allow a player to reconsider their playing options.

 

[Doggy]

Jones is likely to be in a unique position where the AFL waves the requirement for a retired player to sit out for 28 months.

That's probably a factor in Carltank's compensation

 

[Doggy]

Jones retired in Nov 2021 and sat out the 2022 season.
I think 12 months should allow a player to reconsider their playing options.

Believe it is 18 months

 

[True Dog]

Fantastic news

Really hope this kid gets a good run with injuries, there's a lot to like and has plenty of ticker (and smarts)...

 

[Sentinel]

Believe it is 18 months

That's what I've heard is usually the requirement too, but can't find it specified anywhere in the AFL's rulebook.

This rule (c) seems to say he shouldn't be a free agent at all - delisted or restricted/unrestricted, so they're bending the rules either way.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Really hope this kid gets a good run with injuries, there's a lot to like and has plenty of ticker (and smarts)...

Hopefully he does get a clear run at playing AFL footy

 

[Doggy]

That's what I've heard is usually the requirement too, but can't find it specified anywhere in the AFL's rulebook.

This rule (c) seems to say he shouldn't be a free agent at all - delisted or restricted/unrestricted, so they're bending the rules either way.

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Yeah but the AFL are writing the script here

 

[VitalDread]

According to this article West Coast are willing to use their preseason draft pick to get Izak Rankine if he wants to leave GC and a trade with Adelaide isn't sorted. Adelaide’s offer is supposedly 5 years at $800k p.a. which West Coast would need to be able to match. Surely puts added doubt on rumours here of their cap being tight (which doesn't make sense to me anyway) and them willing to part with Barrass to relieve it.

Tensions rise as star ‘nearly pulls out’ of $4m move; Tigers ‘edge ahead’ of Pies: Trade Whispers

Tensions rise as star ‘nearly pulls out’ of $4m move; Tigers ‘edge ahead’ of Pies: Trade Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

If i was Norf, i'll grab him at pick 1

 

[Scragger77]

There is so much noise about how poorly the Bombers have treated Rutten.

I suspect a number of their players will want out - anyone we should target?

Or perhaps send Dunkley there to that really strong culture he wanted to join

Sam Durham

 

[Testekill]

Really good summary
I hope we can keep JJ on less money.
Hunter seems a key when we win, has faults but seems crucial to me.
I’ve seen little in Parker, but I’d like to trust the recruiters and give him another year.. he’s one I’m actually watching next year for reasons I don’t know other than identifying traits.

Parker has shown good signs this season but he has had shocking injury luck. I'd give him another year because he offers some class on the wing.

 

[VitalDread]

Parker has shown good signs this season but he has had shocking injury luck. I'd give him another year because he offers some class on the wing.

Only downside to Parker is him being 26 years old next season

Would be happy with a one year prove it deal

 

[4Seasons]

Parker has shown good signs this season but he has had shocking injury luck. I'd give him another year because he offers some class on the wing.

Parker is actually a good rookie type.
Put him in a professional setup and see how it goes. Using that logic I think we will give him another year in our system.

 

[Testekill]

Parker is actually a good rookie type.
Put him in a professional setup and see how it goes. Using that logic I think we will give him another year in our system.

Yeah, we picked him up as a raw mature age player and he improved game over game this season. Give him one more year and see how he's going at the tail end of next year. If he has improved enough to be breaking into the seniors and has gotten his body right then extend, otherwise if he hasn't then let him go.

 

[glenashley]

Gonna be interesting to see what happens with the north list now.

Most will want to stay but some may be shown the door (Goldy?).

I suspect McKay is well off the table.

 

[4Seasons]

Yeah, we picked him up as a raw mature age player and he improved game over game this season. Give him one more year and see how he's going at the tail end of next year. If he has improved enough to be breaking into the seniors and has gotten his body right then extend, otherwise if he hasn't then let him go.

I like the VFL. I notice you are into it.
What’s your thoughts on Jones?

 

[Scragger77]

Gonna be interesting to see what happens with the north list now.

Most will want to stay but some may be shown the door (Goldy?).

I suspect McKay is well off the table.

The media are making Clarkson out as the messiah I don’t reckon he will be the silver bullet everyone thinks he will be. Time will tell I suppose.