Trade ideas

[KTLK]

Just to throw some trade ideas as much as possible. Feel free to comment and or add.

Jeff White

Trade A
Jeff White to Carlton for 3rd rounder (Pick 40)

Trade B
Jeff White plus pick 67 to Carlton for 3rd rounder (Pick 40)

Trade C
Jeff White plus pick 51 to Carlton for 3rd rounder (Pick 40)

Trade D
Jeff White plus pick 67 to Carlton for 4th rounder (Pick 56)

Trade E
Jeff White to Carlton for 4th rounder (Pick 56)

I can only see Carlton might be interested because they need experience ruckman to develop Kreuzer.

John Meeson

Trade A
John Meeson plus Melbourne’s 5th rounder (Pick 67) to Richmond for 4th rounder (Pick 58) as upgrade.

Trade B
John Meeson to Richmond for 4th rounder (Pick 58)

Trade C
John Meeson to Richmond. Richmond’s fourth rounder (Pick 58) to Geelong. Geelong’s Kane Tenace to Melbourne (3 way deal)

Trade D
John Meeson to Richmond. Richmond’s fourth rounder (Pick 58) to Fremantle. Fremantle’s Ryan Murphy to Melbourne (3 way deal)

1) I can only see Richmond might be interested because they need young ruckman to replace Simmonds.
2) Ryan Murphy? Worth considering?


Nathan Carroll

Trade A
Nathan Carroll to Hawks for 4th rounder (Pick 64-65)

Trade B
Nathan Carroll to Hawks. Hawks 4th rounder (Pick 64-65) to Geelong. Geelong’s Kane Tenace to Melbourne (3 way deal)

Trade C
Nathan Carroll and Melbourne’s 4th rounder (Pick 51) to Hawks for 3rd rounder (Pick 48-49) as upgrade.

Trade D
Nathan Carroll and Melbourne’s 3rd rounder (Pick 35) to Hawks for 2nd rounder (Pick 32-33) as upgrade.

Trade E
Nathan Carroll to West Coast for 5th rounder (Pick 68)

Trade F
Nathan Carroll and Melbourne’s second rounder (Pick 19) to West Coast for priority pick (Pick 18) as upgrade.

Trade G
Nathan Carroll and Melbourne’s 5th rounder (Pick 67) to Fremantle for Warnock.

Trade H
Nathan Carroll and Melbourne’s 4th rounder (Pick 51) to Fremantle for Warnock and Fremantle’s 4th rounder (Pick 53)

Trade I
Nathan Carroll and Melbourne’s 3rd rounder (Pick 35) to Fremantle for Warnock and Fremantle’s 3rd rounder (Pick 37)

1) Would Hawks be interested because lack of defence support.
2) Would West Coast be interested because of Neale Daniher – coach him before and Nathan Carroll is Western Australian?
3) Would Fremantle be interested? Nathan Carroll is Western Australian and Dockers have delisted experienced players because of retirement. Dockers may need to inject some experience to support youth. Would Warnock trade help to avoid PSD? If so, perhaps this may help MFC to consider Mundy in PSD.

Mark Jamar

Trade A
Mark Jamar to Port Adelaide for 3rd rounder (Pick 38)

Trade B
Mark Jamar to Port Adelaide. Port Adelaide’s 3rd rounder (Pick 38) to Fremantle. Fremantle’s Warnock to Melbourne (3 way deal)

Matthew Whelan

Trade A
Matthew Whelan to Essendon for 3rd rounder (Pick 39)
Trade B
Matthew Whelan and Melbourne’s 3rd rounder (Pick 35) to Essendon for 2nd rounder (Pick 23) as upgrade.

Trade C
Matthew Whelan and Melbourne’s 4th rounder (Pick 51) to Essendon for 3rd rounder (Pick 39) as upgrade.

Trade D
Matthew Whelan and Melbourne’s 4th rounder (Pick 51) to Essendon for 2nd rounder as upgrade.

Trade E
Matthew Whelan and Melbourne’s 4th rounder (Pick 51) to Essendon for 2nd rounder (Pick 23) and 4th rounder (Pick 55)

Trade F
Matthew Whelan and Melbourne’s 3rd rounder (Pick 35) to Essendon for 2nd rounder (Pick 23) and 3rd rounder (Pick 39)

Would Essendon be interested in Whelan for Lovett’s replacement? Does Whelan have currency? Should MFC consider to trade?

 

[Beats]

Firstly you should be hung up by your curlies.
No one, NO ONE, suggests we should trade Whelan!

Secondly White has been retired by us, so I'm pretty sure we can't trade him?
No one will take Meesen, and we would be very lucky to find someone to take Carroll, although something we could think about is maybe downgrading one of our picks to send with him?
Say giving our 4th rounder and Carroll for a 5th rounder.
Because potentially we won't need to use that pick.

 

[ExTasDeeMan]

Jesus - why trade Meeson. He has no value whatsoever. Give him a year to see if he can play and then delist him.

 

[demon g]

Firstly you should be hung up by your curlies.
No one, NO ONE, suggests we should trade Whelan!

Secondly White has been retired by us, so I'm pretty sure we can't trade him?
No one will take Meesen, and we would be very lucky to find someone to take Carroll, although something we could think about is maybe downgrading one of our picks to send with him?
Say giving our 4th rounder and Carroll for a 5th rounder.
Because potentially we won't need to use that pick.

This may be the one of the stupidist posts iv ever read! YOU should be hung up by your curlies.

Why wouldnt we be able to trade White?? We have announced he wont be in our side next year and has not been offered a new contract...as such he will be treated the same as any uncontracted player...tradeable during trade week if something suitable comes up.

Secondly...why the hell would we trade Carroll and a 4th rounder to get a lower pick in a 5th rounder???? Sounds like a winning trade to me!!!

Finally...and besides the point...but Whelan is no longer untouchable. a great player but getting on and hit hard by injury. I highly doubt he would carry much currency...similar to White and Carroll.

 

[McLean_4_Captain]

If carlton want White they'd most likely just take him in the PSD

The only other one of all of those that seems like a possibility is Jamar to Port, but it would be dependent on us getting Warnock and even then i think they'll keep Jamar as you really need at least 3 competent ruckman.

 

[cannons]

Thanks for posting these ideas KTLK

Its interesting to throw around some ideas, I'll post my thoughts a bit later on when I have some time.

 

[richskee]

Wheatley + Bruce for a early 2nd rounder

 

[McLean_4_Captain]

Wheatley + Bruce for a early 2nd rounder

That's a great idea. So when we take Essendon's 2nd rounder (23) and the bombers offer them contracts half of what we're paying them and we have to pay a few $100,000 to not have them on our list.

No thanks

 

[KTLK]

Thanks for posting these ideas KTLK

Its interesting to throw around some ideas, I'll post my thoughts a bit later on when I have some time.

Thanks Cannons and all for the valuable comments.

These are just ideas and hopfully MFC can get something from the players due to delistings, struggling, age factor, injuries etc rather than nothing.

In addition, this also help the players to get more opportunities rather than being delisted.

Look forward to see your ideas as well

 

[afterburner]

Perhaps it's prudent we all have a read through this thread first:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=491267

Specifically numbers 7 (Jeff White and Carlton), number 4 (Jamar/Carroll) and number 1 (all three).

Carroll is untradeable - do we honestly think that a club like WC, with its history of poorly behaved players will trade for a 27 year old with multiple discipline issues?

 

[richskee]

That's a great idea. So when we take Essendon's 2nd rounder (23) and the bombers offer them contracts half of what we're paying them and we have to pay a few $100,000 to not have them on our list.

No thanks

Sorry i don't know all there contract information..... Jeez..

Goose.

 

[McLean_4_Captain]

Yeah, i'm a goose because you made a comment without knowing all the facts.

 

[Marns]

I'd like us to see what we can get for Wheatley. His value is probably at its highest, whilst (IMO) he's still a very ordinary footballer at best. His spot could be filled by someone else pretty comfortably.

As for trading Whelan, not a chance. The guy has been around for 7 years, and has something to offer that young backline of ours. If you look at our side, we don't have enough leaders as it is, we need all the help we can get.

 

[afterburner]

I'd like us to see what we can get for Wheatley. His value is probably at its highest, whilst (IMO) he's still a very ordinary footballer at best. His spot could be filled by someone else pretty comfortably.

As for trading Whelan, not a chance. The guy has been around for 7 years, and has something to offer that young backline of ours. If you look at our side, we don't have enough leaders as it is, we need all the help we can get.

Agree. There appears to be a perception that Wheatley is a good footballer. I think he'd have as much currency as Green or Bruce and yet is replaceable in D Bailey's side because he is not the world's best user of the ball and is so unaccountable one would think he has come from the the Ryan Houlihan school of manning up.

Wheatley is tradeable and I think our best chance to get another highish pick.

 

[KTLK]

I'd like us to see what we can get for Wheatley. His value is probably at its highest, whilst (IMO) he's still a very ordinary footballer at best. His spot could be filled by someone else pretty comfortably.

As for trading Whelan, not a chance. The guy has been around for 7 years, and has something to offer that young backline of ours. If you look at our side, we don't have enough leaders as it is, we need all the help we can get.

Thanks Marns,

Wheatley is another one I was thinking. However, wasn't too sure at what price and which club.

Since you have raised this, can I please ask you:
1) Who (club or clubs) will be interested in Wheatley?
2) At what price? (Min - Max) in terms of draft picks?

KTLK

 

[rocklovelive]

I'm sorry but most of those trades involve you trying to get picks for players that you will only delist.
Why would they do that?

 

[woe31]

Thanks Marns,

Wheatley is another one I was thinking. However, wasn't too sure at what price and which club.

Since you have raised this, can I please ask you:
1) Who (club or clubs) will be interested in Wheatley?
2) At what price? (Min - Max) in terms of draft picks?

KTLK

I seem to recall the Kangaroos were interested in Wheatley a few seasons ago (A Watt for Wheatley deal was being discussed). Don't know if they would still have interest, but he has had a reasonable year and should have decent currency. Perhaps try to package him along with our third rounder for a high(ish) second rounder?

 

[cannons]

I'm sorry but most of those trades involve you trying to get picks for players that you will only delist.
Why would they do that?

Just because a player is surplus to requirements for one club does not mean he isn't going to be useful for another club. In addition, other clubs have scarce opportunities with which to pick those players up, so a trade may be he only real viable option for them (e.g. Gardiner and King to the Saints for a pick).

 

[afterburner]

Just because a player is surplus to requirements for one club does not mean he isn't going to be useful for another club. In addition, other clubs have scarce opportunities with which to pick those players up, so a trade may be he only real viable option for them (e.g. Gardiner and King to the Saints for a pick).

The trades of Gardiner and King to the Saints were to allow these two players to continue their careers. The trades were from the Premiership side and the alternative for the players was to be delisted. From the perspective of Geelong, the picks it received were so high in the draft order they were not needed. Effectively from Geelong's perspective, the players were delisted without the embarassment and stigma attached.

The OP was proposing something similar but with the thoughts that we might get something in return (ie picks we could use) for them. I'm with the Richmond supporter on this one. The guys mentioned initially, White, Carroll and Jamar have no currency.

If we want picks that are worth something, we need to trade away someone who is worth something.

 

[master bate]

The OP was proposing something similar but with the thoughts that we might get something in return (ie picks we could use) for them. I'm with the Richmond supporter on this one. The guys mentioned initially, White, Carroll and Jamar have no currency.

If we want picks that are worth something, we need to trade away someone who is worth something.

You're right on White and Carroll, but Jamar does have some value in my book, I'd want something for him considering without him PJ and Meesen are our first rucks (obviously this changes if we get Naitinui and/or Warnock).


And Whelan is definitely untouchable, along with Green (unless he won't agree to 2 years) and McDonald. Wheatley and Bruce should be off loaded for any reasonable offer.

 

[Edwards27]

I seem to recall the Kangaroos were interested in Wheatley a few seasons ago (A Watt for Wheatley deal was being discussed). Don't know if they would still have interest, but he has had a reasonable year and should have decent currency. Perhaps try to package him along with our third rounder for a high(ish) second rounder?

Really? I do not think we would be interested. Watt has had a good year and he stood up in the final. So I would think No. Any chance of Aaron Davey leaving Demons to come to North since he good friends with the Arden St aboriginal boys?

 

[woe31]

Really? I do not think we would be interested. Watt has had a good year and he stood up in the final. So I would think No. Any chance of Aaron Davey leaving Demons to come to North since he good friends with the Arden St aboriginal boys?

This deal was discussed post 2006 from memory. It definately did the rounds on message boards, but don't have any idea how or why it broke down. In any case Watt (despite having another serviceable season) would not be what we are after come trade time with our focus being on youth.

 

[Wolfmother2]

We should be looking to upgrade our priority pick....

A good player and pick 17 or 19 for something between 8-14. This way the club gets a player and still a top pick which from the depth of this draft shouldn't be an issue.

We then lose a player but have picks 1, 8-14 and 17 or 19.... as clubs don't want to give up a first round pick I think this is the only option to get deep inside the top twenty.

I'm not sure which playerbut it could be just about anyone

 

[Barrie Vagg]

You're right on White and Carroll, but Jamar does have some value in my book, I'd want something for him considering without him PJ and Meesen are our first rucks (obviously this changes if we get Naitinui and/or Warnock).


And Whelan is definitely untouchable, along with Green (unless he won't agree to 2 years) and McDonald. Wheatley and Bruce should be off loaded for any reasonable offer.

I am not sure why everyone wants to trade Wheatley. He had his best season and is one of the best users of the football at the club. His downside is his inability to stick a tackle and he is pushed off the ball too easily but he will finish well up in the B & F and is in my opinion one of the players we have to keep.

 

[AFL is Number One]

Guys, I think you are a bit unfair on Wheatley. The man can certainly play and is in fact my tip for our best & fairest. And its just not me that thinks Wheatley is good. If you watch Footy Classified each week, you will see that Wheatley is one of our highest vote getters for the Dees. And who gives the votes I hear you say? Well the coaches do.Dean Bailey and all opposition coaches cast their votes after each game. Its a very good indicator. I wouldn't trade him.