Trade period / National Draft 2024

Which out of contract player should we trade?

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Meteoric Rise said:
Same thing that happens if you swap picks into next year and find out that is a weaker draft.
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You can then trade one of the picks into the following year or use it to trade for a ready made looking for game time.
 

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Meteoric Rise said:
I am sure the people in position at the club will make value based decisions based on better knowledge than you and I could muster regarding the strength of the 2 drafts and whatever trading balls are in the air at present.
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You'd hope so lol

This more just a forum for posters to discuss a range of hypotheticals, for all we know we try and move up the draft order and end up missing out and just have the 1 first rounder and a heap of other low picks like we do now.
 
Coach_Required said:
You'd hope so lol

This more just a forum for posters to discuss a range of hypotheticals, for all we know we try and move up the draft order and end up missing out and just have the 1 first rounder and a heap of other low picks like we do now.
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Quite possible we could be left with low picks and that’s why our recruiting department needs to have their finger on the pulse. It’s more important to trade up using multiple late picks than trading out players. Yes we need to trade a few players for picks but I think it’s more important that we don’t get stuck with these lowly draft picks.
 
Meteoric Rise said:
Same question then, at what point of his contract inflating are you saying no Miller, you can walk to another club, we will take the compo?
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In terms of amounts. IF there is genuine interest elsewhere, in Miller THEN match offers to..........guessing 500/550.

ideally Grimes, Broad retire/leave first. If Balta stays fwd and Gibcus can't return to good footy we will need a tall KPD.
 
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dirtybizza said:
We got Liam baker for nothing pick 18 in the rookie draft.
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That is irrelevant unless you're flipping the player in 12 months. We drafted him 6 years ago.
He will be 27 before the start of next season.
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So in his prime and playing good footy. We need good players.
He plays with tremendous heart but if we can get a top 15 talent for an aging role player we paid peanuts for we'd be stupid not to in our current situation.
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"Aging" lol. He's 26 not 32.

Why would we develop him then willingly ship him off once he's good for a player who might be as good? Just keep the good player.

If he wants to leave then fine. If he wants to stay then keep him because he's good. Pretty simple.
 
RobsJourney said:
I reckon to make the dynasty-esque sides, which I'd prefer if I had the choice, you need to build via the draft. Get a bunch of top picks and get them to play together for at least 5 years, perhaps even longer.

Sure, you may not get lucky enough to find a Dusty, Rance, or Riewoldt type like we did across a few drafts, but you'll have put enough good footy talent together that will hit its prime age all at around the same time, and they should explode a bit.

It still doesn't guarantee success of course, but nothing does.

Growapair made the example of our 2004 haul, but back then we know we had basically no recruiting team, so I would say it doesn't count.
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Next season we will have same number of Top10 picks on our list than our 2017 premiership team, right?

Taranto pick 2
Hopper pick 9
Gibcus pick 9
2024 pick 2

Martin pick 3
Cotchin pick 2
Prestia pick 9
Caddy pick 7

And that's if Martin and Prestia retire
Karp3_dm said:
Miller ain’t leaving Richmond
Loyal as they come to the club said his manager Colin Young to me
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What manager would say anything else ...

Ben hates it here and can't wait to get out - Colin Young

If a bloke with a young family gets a pay of your house type of offer of $3 million over 5 years he ain't taking $750 over 2 years no matter how loyal

Very concerning a key position player we have invested 6 years in and finally is paying dividends in his 7th is an unrestricted free agent
 
Charlie Pannam said:
My opinion on Mansell is wait til seasons end, and see how we rate the depth of the draft, how many picks we’ll take, are there better options. It’s all about building a stronger list and getting games into players now. Can’t see any other club grabbing him, he’s very much a dime a dozen role player.

Re Miller, a club like Swans would swoop on him, recognising him as being the type that could plug a hole immediately. They would have no issues paying overs $ or contract length.
We need to keep him, because we’ll lose Grimes, maybe Broad at seasons end. Gibcus, injury prone and Young very unlikely imo to make it.
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I can guarantee they wouldn’t pay him a bomb considering Haywood is being offered well under market rate that tells me cap is tight , real tight
 
Meteoric Rise said:
But don't all those possibilities exist equally in 2024, 2025 and every year beyond?
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Over the next few years while we're looking at hitting the draft we should have as many options open to us as possible in each year.

If we're going to bite the bullet this year with Baker and/or Daniel moving on via trades I'd prefer us to make deals that net us extra R1 picks this year and an extra R1 pick in 2025.

If we've only got 1 R1 pick next year, our options aren't as open as they could be. We're either locked in to taking the pick and adding a kid or we look to trade out either for a ready made or a R1 pick the following year. With the 2 picks we could

1. Take both picks and add to the talent we get this year if the draft is strong
2. Keep the best pick and trade the other for a player or 2026 R1 pick if the draft is weak
3. Use both to try and trade to a better R1 pick if there are a group of stand out kids we're not in position to draft should we climb up the ladder.
 
Growapair said:
Next season we will have same number of Top10 picks on our list than our 2017 premiership team, right?

Taranto pick 2
Hopper pick 9
Gibcus pick 9
2024 pick 2

Martin pick 3
Cotchin pick 2
Prestia pick 9
Caddy pick 7

And that's if Martin and Prestia retire

What manager would say anything else ...

Ben hates it here and can't wait to get out - Colin Young

If a bloke with a young family gets a pay of your house type of offer of $3 million over 5 years he ain't taking $750 over 2 years no matter how loyal

Very concerning a key position player we have invested 6 years in and finally is paying dividends in his 7th is an unrestricted free agent
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Well Colin Young told me this at Xmas about Miller..
Said he had multiple offers from oppo clubs previously that he turned down to stay at Richmond
 
Growapair said:
Well he hasn't turned them down yet this time around
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Yeah who knows, like you said he might get an offer too good to refuse from an oppo.

I’m just reporting what I got told by his manager few months ago..

Have we put an offer to Miller already?
 
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We should be looking at readymade players stuck in the vfl at clubs like Sydney, Gold Coast and GWS who wont be elevated onto the main list due to the depth of talent at those clubs.

An example is Sydney have a VFL listed player Phill Moimoi who will be an absolute gun.

Very close mates with Lefau and originally from Victoria, he's a 182cm 83kg forward who can play both as a mid sized lead up forward and as a crumbing small.

Currently 23yo. Very talented with massive upside. Has kicked 2 bags of 3 in his first half a dozen games this year and rarely doesn't hit the scoreboard. Screenshot_20240523_181610.jpg
 
beema limapep said:
We should be looking at readymade players stuck in the vfl at clubs like Sydney, Gold Coast and GWS who wont be elevated onto the main list due to the depth of talent at those clubs.

An example is Sydney have a VFL listed player Phill Moimoi who will be an absolute gun.

Very close mates with Lefau and originally from Victoria, he's a 182cm 83kg forward who can play both as a mid sized lead up forward and as a crumbing small.

Currently 23yo. Very talented with massive upside. Has kicked 2 bags of 3 in his first half a dozen games this year and rarely doesn't hit the scoreboard. View attachment 1997973
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Oye Oye...like players that have diff skills...
 
beema limapep said:
We should be looking at readymade players stuck in the vfl at clubs like Sydney, Gold Coast and GWS who wont be elevated onto the main list due to the depth of talent at those clubs.

An example is Sydney have a VFL listed player Phill Moimoi who will be an absolute gun.

Very close mates with Lefau and originally from Victoria, he's a 182cm 83kg forward who can play both as a mid sized lead up forward and as a crumbing small.

Currently 23yo. Very talented with massive upside. Has kicked 2 bags of 3 in his first half a dozen games this year and rarely doesn't hit the scoreboard. View attachment 1997973
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im sold

these jake the muss types have high ceilings and are aggressive as

get him in the middy
 
GoTigers2015 said:
Still way overs, the BFF Gold Coast fan will be posting that as delusional.

Since when has there been a deal struck that is so one-sided?

Reckon more likely GC would offer their 2nd first rounder and pick 20 and want some late picks back, so they can get in before the bid on Lombard.
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Lachie Weller says hold my beer
 

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15 AFL draft prospects to watch in 2024 under-18 national championships​

JOSH SMILIE Vic Metro

The early No. 1 pick fancy looks set to lead the charge for the Vic Metro midfield. A big-bodied onballer who stands 194cm, Smillie is a clean one-touch player who models his game on Carlton captain Patrick Cripps. Smillie has made an outstanding start to the season across all levels, including averaging 25.8 disposals, 5.7 clearances and 1.5 goals from six Coates Talent League matches with the Eastern Ranges.

SID DRAPER South Australia

A powerful and quick midfielder, Draper starred as a bottom-age player for South Australia at last year’s under-18 national championships on his way to winning the side’s MVP award. He entered this year as a firm top-10 prospect, but missed the start of the season with stress fractures in his skin. Draper has worked his way back to fitness over recent weeks, though, and won 24 disposals in South Australia’s under-18s in a trial match against an under-20 state team last weekend.

LEO LOMBARD Allies

He is the son of former UFC fighter Héctor Lombard, this highly-rated Gold Coast Suns Academy member is cool and composed on the footy field. A prolific ball-winning midfielder who is also clever around the goals, he featured in the Suns’ VFL premiership side as a 16-year-old last year and has continued to impress playing for multiple teams at different levels in the early part of this season.

LEVI ASHCROFT Vic Metro

Brisbane Lions fans will have a keen eye on this father-son prospect, who shapes as another beauty and will attract a bid early in November’s national draft. The son of three-time Lions premiership player Marcus and the younger brother of current Brisbane young gun Will, Levi is a midfielder-forward with an elite workrate and makes excellent decisions with ball in hand. He was best afield for the AFL Academy side in its clash with VFL team Footscray in April, gathering 29 disposals and six clearances.

FINN O’SULLIVAN Vic Country

The classy midfielder entered the year being discussed as a potential No. 1 pick but has had a wretched run with injury and will miss the start of the national championships following surgery on a finger injury. The second cousin of Carlton star Sam Walsh will be hoping to return for Vic Country’s later matches in the championships and find some consistency in the second half of the season.

Ben Camporeale South Australia

Carlton recruiters and fans will have a close eye on Ben and Lucas Camporeale when they run out for South Australia during the championships. Both are eligible to join the Blues under father-son rules at the end of the year, being the sons of 1995 premiership player Scott.
Ben is a halfback or midfielder who is a right-foot kick, who won a team-high 26 disposals and seven clearances in a trial match for South Australia’s under-18 side last weekend.

Lucas Camporeale South Australia

The other Camporeale the Blues will have their eyes on. Lucas is a wingman who is a left-foot kick. The pair have both impressed with Glenelg in the SANFL under-18s this year, as well as with the AFL Academy. In a trial match for South Australia’s under-18 side last weekend in preparation for championships, Lucas gathered 19 disposals and eight marks.

Bo Allan Western Australia

The best draft prospect from the west this year, Allan has been appointed Western Australia’s captain for the national championships. A likely first-round draft prospect, the 191cm defender has had a taste of senior football with Peel Thunder in the WAFL this year and showed good signs as a third-tall in two early-season matches. However, WA plans to play Allan as a midfielder during the tournament. He won a team-high 21 disposals and six inside-50s in a trial match last weekend.

LOGAN SMITH Allies

A 204cm big man, the GWS Giants Academy member is shaping as the leading ruckman in this year’s draft pool. Smith turned heads with his early-season form for the Giants in the Coates Talent League, averaging 18.3 disposals and 26.7 hit-outs from three matches. A mobile player who is good in the air, Smith can also play back or forward if required.

LUKE TRAINOR Vic Metro

An early-season draft bolter, Trainor has emerged as a potential top-five pick after an impressive start to his top-age campaign. A former forward, the 194cm athletic tall is thriving in defence and has drawn comparisons to Essendon’s Jordan Ridley. His one-on-one contest work has been strong, while his intercepting ability and composed ball use coming out of the back half are other key aspects of his game.

Jack Whitlock Vic Country

Another set of twins, these two Murray Bushrangers stars have drawn comparisons to Max and Ben King given their size and athletic abilities. Jack is 200cm and has been playing as a forward and kicked 4.4 in the opening round of the Coates Talent League.

Matt Whitlock Vic Country

Matt is 197cm, and like his brother is a great mark in the air. He started the season as a tall defender, but has switched forward in recent weeks to great effect and booted 5.3 from 14 disposals against the GWS Giants Academy in round 6.

JAGGA SMITH Vic Metro

A lively and creative midfielder, Smith has been a consistently strong performer at all levels in the early part of the season. He moves exceptionally well through traffic, has great vision and has shown an ability to indirectly impact the scoreboard in more of a centre-forward role this year. The son of former Collingwood-listed player Michael, Smith starred with 33 disposals and nine clearances for the Oakleigh Chargers in a recent match against the Murray Bushrangers. He was also one of the AFL Academy’s best players in an exhibition match against Footscray’s VFL side last month.

SAM LALOR Vic Country

After missing the start of the season with hip and groin issues, Lalor could push back up draft boards with a big national championships campaign. A powerful inside midfielder who can also go forward, he returned from injury in a school match for Geelong Grammar last month and booted seven goals from 19 disposals. Lalor also showed some good signs for the AFL Academy team in an exhibition match against Footscray’s VFL side. The Bacchus Marsh product looks up to Collingwood’s Jordan De Goey, but also has a strong defensive mindset.
 
GoTigers2015 said:

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15 AFL draft prospects to watch in 2024 under-18 national championships​

JOSH SMILIE Vic Metro

The early No. 1 pick fancy looks set to lead the charge for the Vic Metro midfield. A big-bodied onballer who stands 194cm, Smillie is a clean one-touch player who models his game on Carlton captain Patrick Cripps. Smillie has made an outstanding start to the season across all levels, including averaging 25.8 disposals, 5.7 clearances and 1.5 goals from six Coates Talent League matches with the Eastern Ranges.

SID DRAPER South Australia

A powerful and quick midfielder, Draper starred as a bottom-age player for South Australia at last year’s under-18 national championships on his way to winning the side’s MVP award. He entered this year as a firm top-10 prospect, but missed the start of the season with stress fractures in his skin. Draper has worked his way back to fitness over recent weeks, though, and won 24 disposals in South Australia’s under-18s in a trial match against an under-20 state team last weekend.

LEO LOMBARD Allies

He is the son of former UFC fighter Héctor Lombard, this highly-rated Gold Coast Suns Academy member is cool and composed on the footy field. A prolific ball-winning midfielder who is also clever around the goals, he featured in the Suns’ VFL premiership side as a 16-year-old last year and has continued to impress playing for multiple teams at different levels in the early part of this season.

LEVI ASHCROFT Vic Metro

Brisbane Lions fans will have a keen eye on this father-son prospect, who shapes as another beauty and will attract a bid early in November’s national draft. The son of three-time Lions premiership player Marcus and the younger brother of current Brisbane young gun Will, Levi is a midfielder-forward with an elite workrate and makes excellent decisions with ball in hand. He was best afield for the AFL Academy side in its clash with VFL team Footscray in April, gathering 29 disposals and six clearances.

FINN O’SULLIVAN Vic Country

The classy midfielder entered the year being discussed as a potential No. 1 pick but has had a wretched run with injury and will miss the start of the national championships following surgery on a finger injury. The second cousin of Carlton star Sam Walsh will be hoping to return for Vic Country’s later matches in the championships and find some consistency in the second half of the season.

Ben Camporeale South Australia

Carlton recruiters and fans will have a close eye on Ben and Lucas Camporeale when they run out for South Australia during the championships. Both are eligible to join the Blues under father-son rules at the end of the year, being the sons of 1995 premiership player Scott.
Ben is a halfback or midfielder who is a right-foot kick, who won a team-high 26 disposals and seven clearances in a trial match for South Australia’s under-18 side last weekend.

Lucas Camporeale South Australia

The other Camporeale the Blues will have their eyes on. Lucas is a wingman who is a left-foot kick. The pair have both impressed with Glenelg in the SANFL under-18s this year, as well as with the AFL Academy. In a trial match for South Australia’s under-18 side last weekend in preparation for championships, Lucas gathered 19 disposals and eight marks.

Bo Allan Western Australia

The best draft prospect from the west this year, Allan has been appointed Western Australia’s captain for the national championships. A likely first-round draft prospect, the 191cm defender has had a taste of senior football with Peel Thunder in the WAFL this year and showed good signs as a third-tall in two early-season matches. However, WA plans to play Allan as a midfielder during the tournament. He won a team-high 21 disposals and six inside-50s in a trial match last weekend.

LOGAN SMITH Allies

A 204cm big man, the GWS Giants Academy member is shaping as the leading ruckman in this year’s draft pool. Smith turned heads with his early-season form for the Giants in the Coates Talent League, averaging 18.3 disposals and 26.7 hit-outs from three matches. A mobile player who is good in the air, Smith can also play back or forward if required.

LUKE TRAINOR Vic Metro

An early-season draft bolter, Trainor has emerged as a potential top-five pick after an impressive start to his top-age campaign. A former forward, the 194cm athletic tall is thriving in defence and has drawn comparisons to Essendon’s Jordan Ridley. His one-on-one contest work has been strong, while his intercepting ability and composed ball use coming out of the back half are other key aspects of his game.

Jack Whitlock Vic Country

Another set of twins, these two Murray Bushrangers stars have drawn comparisons to Max and Ben King given their size and athletic abilities. Jack is 200cm and has been playing as a forward and kicked 4.4 in the opening round of the Coates Talent League.

Matt Whitlock Vic Country

Matt is 197cm, and like his brother is a great mark in the air. He started the season as a tall defender, but has switched forward in recent weeks to great effect and booted 5.3 from 14 disposals against the GWS Giants Academy in round 6.

JAGGA SMITH Vic Metro

A lively and creative midfielder, Smith has been a consistently strong performer at all levels in the early part of the season. He moves exceptionally well through traffic, has great vision and has shown an ability to indirectly impact the scoreboard in more of a centre-forward role this year. The son of former Collingwood-listed player Michael, Smith starred with 33 disposals and nine clearances for the Oakleigh Chargers in a recent match against the Murray Bushrangers. He was also one of the AFL Academy’s best players in an exhibition match against Footscray’s VFL side last month.

SAM LALOR Vic Country

After missing the start of the season with hip and groin issues, Lalor could push back up draft boards with a big national championships campaign. A powerful inside midfielder who can also go forward, he returned from injury in a school match for Geelong Grammar last month and booted seven goals from 19 disposals. Lalor also showed some good signs for the AFL Academy team in an exhibition match against Footscray’s VFL side. The Bacchus Marsh product looks up to Collingwood’s Jordan De Goey, but also has a strong defensive mindset.
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